Life in the Red Group

Posted by: Doc_Husker on October 22, 2009 8:07AM CST BAM!!!

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 8:14AM CST 17.5 spread...got to be kidding?

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 8:27AM CST 17.5 is not enough

Posted by: POWERHUSKERS on October 22, 2009 8:29AM CST 4th key: Remember we Nebraska and they are Iowa State therefore we should be able to pummel them regardless of recent struggles on offense.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 8:32AM CST Driveby: Explain please

Posted by: Bloozman on October 22, 2009 8:37AM CST Lest we forget, even though we are Nebraska, Iowa State has beaten us before, when we least expected it!

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 8:37AM CST A commitment to a running game with a play action passing game is "difficult" to put pressure on? Gee, what a novel idea. Why didn't we think of that. Oh yeah, we did for about thirty years.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 8:44AM CST Whenever we pull a lineman everyone on that side of the defense can head outside because it means we are running off tackle somewhere again. No counters, no traps, no short pulls, no cross blocks, no mis-direction, no lead backs. Just a one back read to the outside. How hard is that to defend? No wonder Helu is getting beat up.

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on October 22, 2009 8:50AM CST These boys played Iowa tough. so do not take them lightly. They get some rhythm going....

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 8:53AM CST It is hard to believe we would be 17.5 point favorites against any big 12 team right now. That is 6 field goals.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 8:58AM CST doozer i agree. keep in mind ISU is also called Ames Community College. Id love to see big red out rush em'

Posted by: POWERHUSKERS on October 22, 2009 9:07AM CST I don't know what the NCAA record for most field goals in a game but this weekend Henry breaks that record.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 9:07AM CST I know, but I still have bad dreams about listening to the 92 game with my boss, a hugh Iowa State fan. Anybody on any day... I am just feeling negative today. I guess I woke up on the wrong side of the Texas Tech score.

Posted by: joe t on October 22, 2009 9:09AM CST 3 keys: 1) run the ball 2) stop the run 3) win the game Watson has no confidence in our running backs. If that's true, then why did we ever give them and allow them to be on scholarship?

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:11AM CST Time for somebody to step it up on O. Just terrible right now. Im tired of the coulda woulda shoulda's. If coulda woulda and shoula's were 5th's - we'd all be drunk...

Posted by: Skers4Life on October 22, 2009 9:14AM CST dave, iowa beat isu 35-3, not saying we can take them lightly but that's not exactly playing someone tough

Posted by: Skers4Life on October 22, 2009 9:17AM CST that's also why i think we can cover the spread, when they play someone with a D they don't do too well, i don't think they score more than 10 points if we have some semblance of an offense this week, they have surprised us in the past though so we ahve to be focused

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 9:18AM CST Beefeater. Someone stepping up usually implys a skilled position player. No one skilled position player can step up and fix this offense. The whole line needs to be better coached and play better, and the play selection needs to improve. So actually, that one person who needs to step up might be a coach?

Posted by: Doc_Husker on October 22, 2009 9:18AM CST Some of you are just so negative. You make it sound like we're the worst team in the world now. The offense played like crap against Tech. It will get better.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:23AM CST Doc- We are behind KSUcks in the North standings. So, in my mind, we are close to the worst team right now. I can't stand being behind purple. that sucks. Doozer- agree on the coaching. My jury is still out on Cotton. Anyone remember his comments when he went to ISU and said that they were the REAL big red after they beat us over there.?

Posted by: POWERHUSKERS on October 22, 2009 9:23AM CST redone I disagree, if the offense starts clicking we are a good team.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 9:25AM CST 80,000 people were not booing, but 10.000 idiots can make a lot of noise. I was embarrassed with their attitude. In Bo's case some of us were skeptical about his demeanor when he was hired. I have to admit he has been trying to do better. I think a stern talk with Dr. Tom last year helped that, but his true colors still come through when he is frustrated. It is hard to change the spots on a leopard.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:34AM CST NU always seems to beat KSU once a season in round ball. Even when thay had the gangstas Beasly and Walker...KSU and KU can keep the pumpkin warts. It will be time to get on the mat in BIG RED COUNTRY. Id rather have cully ear than punkin warts. KSU doesn't even support a wrestleing program. I believe thay have a record low 15 varsity sports. awesome.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on October 22, 2009 9:35AM CST Nebraska should do ok against Iowa State, no matter how bad the offense fares, so long as our defense plays well. An ok effort will lead to some more complacency which will hurt down the road against stronger teams. I don't see any big overall turnaround unless a spark ignites this team, such as a QB change. But, the immediate goal has to be winning the next game. We can go from there, after that. A loss would be unthinkable, but possible with a stagnant offense and enough turnovers. Not even Helu can make a differance if he is injured most of the time. There appear to be no other offensive differance makers, unless of course, Green is given the green light.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 9:42AM CST beouf, 17.5 is not enough? Just sounds good.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on October 22, 2009 9:43AM CST Give me a spotted leopard any day over a wuss. If plain vanilla was the game plan Bo Pelini is not your cup of tea. Why try to make the person you wanted into what you think they should be. It is 2009; there's a new breed running the show now.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 9:46AM CST ..It is 2009; there's a new breed running the show now.. Is Bo a Michigan Man?

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:46AM CST redone. facts? i did say they split "NU always seems to beat KSU once a season in round ball". Yes I am also aware they went to the NCAA torney. Nice try to assume im a Nebraskan. Just Alumni, stud. Sounds to me you would be better suited here in Manhattan KS. Facts, right...KSU has 16 varsity sports this year. Sorry Bro

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:49AM CST Red1- want to assume anything else? Nice prediction. Your dead wrong there again stud

Posted by: Doc_Husker on October 22, 2009 9:50AM CST Let's have KSUcks play Missouri and Texas Tech and see if they're still leading the Big 12 North. Those standings don't tell the whole story yet.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:51AM CST thanks Doc. Just what the Doctor ordered.

Posted by: The Old Scout on October 22, 2009 9:52AM CST Booing at college games is unaccaeptable. Booing at referee calls is something else but the boos were also directed at the team. I sense little energy and excitement for this weekends game. Most likely a hangover from dropping a 3 td gamee at home. I'm sure things will pick up by gametime. A win would certainly resurrect some passion.

Posted by: PlyNeb on October 22, 2009 9:55AM CST Driveby-Bo was a Michigan man. Coached there before Lloyd Carr. Is Shimbechler still alive? Oh, you're talking about Pelini. My bad.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 9:56AM CST redone, I sure hope that you are not right. 27 for Iowa State tells me that you don't think much of our defense. I think our defense is outstanding.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 9:59AM CST watch it redone knows it all. no way ISU scores over 14. I think highly of the Blackshirts. What a turnaround that's been under Bo!

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 10:01AM CST redone=Tuffy McTufferton

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 10:10AM CST Busie. New breed is not always better breed. I think the boo birds reflect new breed of fan too, but I don't have to like it.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 10:12AM CST Emotionally Dr. Tom would have been considered pretty vanilla, but somehow I never saw him as a wuss.

Posted by: TheNUorder on October 22, 2009 10:13AM CST T O Scout, I agree. No need to Boo players or coaches. Earlier this week, some of the boo birds on the blog defended themselves stating they had the right to boo and that’s why they did. I agree, they have the right but that doesn’t mean you should exercise the right. Following that logic I guess the players and coaches had the “right” to stand up and flip off the boo birds but they made the choice not to exercise their right, rather they exercised discretion and professionalism and proceeded on their way. I am probably as upset as anyone about what I saw last Saturday but I didn’t and won’t boo. That’s a choice I make. I have ranted and raved on the blogs and recommended changes but never personally demeaned the players or coaches. Again, that’s a choice I make. My guess is the fans booing did more to dissuade future commits from coming to NU than any poor execution on the field by the players. So fans, let’s fix what we can fix, the FANS. Being a Husker fan used to mean something special to the entire college football world. So let’s restore that image. Exercise some constraint at the games and choose NOT TO BOO the team and players now matter how we feel. Let’s RESTORE THE ORDER, the fan order, and support our Huskers through thick and thin.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 10:24AM CST I hope we can control the games this week and next week enough to let both QBs get quality snaps when the game is still competitive. We can then go into the OK game with a clearer picture and without all of the drama.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on October 22, 2009 10:25AM CST I never meant anything about booing players or booing in general. Was talking about Bo's passion on the sidelines with the refs. After the SEC's actions yesterday, that gives his actions even more creedence. As for booing, when Saban comes into the stadium, I would boo myself hoarse. Sucker comes to town with a posse of Ala. st. troopers. Booooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 10:28AM CST The coaches see both QBs in practice every night and have a clearer picture already, but the fans need to see more of Green themselves to calm the controversy. I am in the camp that believes Lee has several flaws, but I can not say I am sure Green has less flaws at this time.

Posted by: TheNUorder on October 22, 2009 10:29AM CST Busie, Not directed at you. Others have said they booed the players and coaches becuase they weren't getting it done and they paid for their tickets so that was their right.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on October 22, 2009 10:30AM CST jjdoozer, I was never calling TO a wuss. I'm talking about a personality type. Sadly civility and good manners seem to be vanishing at an alarming rate. One of the reasons the tv at my house rarely gets turned on unless it's football season. Clods are clods no matter where they call home. Have a good one friend.

Posted by: rluben on October 22, 2009 10:36AM CST lol that makes no sense at all, if I'm a recruit and I heard that fans were booing I'd think to myself, "hmm...sounds like there's some opportunity to get on the field early there in Lincoln, I think I'll give that offer some more attention." Of course that would on be if I had a brain and knew how to use it. We just stole a commit from OK St the week before. One really lousy performance by our O and a few fans voicing their displeasure won't scare any recruits off no matter how much wishful thinking other teams delusional fans are willing to put into it. That game won't have any impact on a recruits decision unless they are cocky and confident and want to compete for a spot.they will then lean our way if they have an offer. If they are weak little wussies who need their hands held, they won't.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on October 22, 2009 10:41AM CST rluben, i posted a link yesterday on one of the other threads that I hoped you would see. It was re: the demise of smash mouth fb.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 10:46AM CST Nothing personal Bussie. I think ultimately we are agreeing. I do not embrace what I consider the "new breed" in our society in any venue including sports. The new breed seems to approach frustration and passion with the same response: anger, violence, aggression, profanity and confrontation. Bo himself saw last year how his sideline antics were effecting his own children. Well. they effect a lot of other children who see it also, specially if their parents are sitting there and praising Bo's behavior. The key is maturity. I think Bo sees that and is trying to mature. I am afraid society as a whole isn't. I am a school administrator and deal with the "new breed" student and parent daily.

Posted by: rluben on October 22, 2009 10:53AM CST Saw that article you posted Busie, college ball in general has shifted towards wussy flag ballet football...players aren't tough like they used to be. QB's wearing gloves on their throwing hands, players afraid to hit someone, really sad to see such a great game get bastardized like it has n been lately. I don't want to hit him, I'd much rather be doing it on the playstation where it don't hurt. Players today are soft, Barneys' not the problem, it's because society is soft. Hell most of these kids have never even been spanked, slapped good upside the head, or knocked around a little for getting out of line..they were put in time out lol. Give me a break, they wouldn't know toughness if it was in right in front of them, they'd just look blankly ahead daydreaming about how sweet they played their position on the video game. It's a violent game and the kids are soft, they don't know how to get after it and won't really ever know how to. All they'll ever be able to do is simulate it sorta. We should just be happy Bo actually gets them to hit someone once in awhile. For example the safety had a chance to destroy the receiver on the play the db broke up the pass, instead he goes for the ball too. Anyone with a toughness, hit someone attitude would have relished getting to make a hit like that, saw that his teammate was in position to knock the ball down or intercept and proceeded to put a hurt on the receiver, but no video game, time out boy was soft and wanted to be flashy. Out coaches have their work cut out for them, trying to make soft little video game timeout youngsters into love to hit someone football players. We have a few that like to hit, but not nearly enough...not yet.

Posted by: gtsum2 on October 22, 2009 10:59AM CST Line opened at 19 and quickly dropped to 17.5 - Husker backers have (so far this week) jumped ship after being exposed last week and I have to agree - I think this will be a close game - iowa state is greatly improved and will not be intimidated whatsoever. Fortunately for us, ISU's strength will be going against our strength (run O vs run D) - I like our D line in that matchup everytime. Until the offense can show it has something (anything for that matter), I think these next several games are going to be closely contested - I highly doubt we cover the number, and as such this will be the first game I am not on the Huskers this year. I will most certainly be glued to the tube though and hoping, praying, and doing the chicken dance that the offense shows up and plays with a chip on their shoulder. It should be fun!

Posted by: ArguingWithIdiots on October 22, 2009 11:03AM CST jjdoozer sorry to hear you are a school administrator. Your remark about being surprised Nebraska is an 18 point favorite against anyone in the Big 12 is extremely negative. Since you believe you know how to call plays better than the coaches, that isn't surprising. As a friend of mine from Canada says, give your head a shake.

Posted by: rluben on October 22, 2009 11:03AM CST I count Dillard as one of them that likes to hit, Crick, Suh, Jacob Hickman, Ricky Henry. There's more, but not many. Our D ends are soft, half the time they are standing around watching or waiting for Suh to make the play...they have the talent, they just like being spectators half the time it seems though. Oh crap, I better stop before I get to the O side of the softness time out generation. Our corporate sponsor should be one of those soft tissue manufacturers. Have our players stuff them under their pads for extra protection and softness in case they hit someone. I have more respect for our coaches after finally figuring out what the real problem is. They are up against a huge wall of softness.

Posted by: ArguingWithIdiots on October 22, 2009 11:07AM CST Fair weather fans

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 11:08AM CST AWI...Yeah, sometimes I am a little sorry about the school administrator thing too. I think we can hold anyone in the Big 12 to 21 or less points. In most cases way less. I am just not confident that our offense can outscore them by 18 points the way it has been playing. Not much red zone offense against our better opponents yet this year.

Posted by: rluben on October 22, 2009 11:09AM CST Well jjdooxer, just give Bo a timeout that will fix it. Go stand in the corner Bo, you been a bad little boy. Bad Bo bad. At least someone on the damn team shows some fight and emotion. Maybe some day the players will wake the hell up and get after it too and take care of some business on the field...wake up from their video game induced , video on TV babysitter slumber.

Posted by: ArguingWithIdiots on October 22, 2009 11:21AM CST Come on Russ. The D has the Pelinis screaming at em. The O line has Barney screaming at em. It dont work. The players got to want to do it on their own. If someone was available to replace these guys who would play harder and these guys are as soft as you say, they would be sitting glued to the bench. We all get a better the longer we are out of the game.

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 11:28AM CST redone- Way to assume more. Do you have your graduate degree from UNL? I will admitt I went to UNO but since it is a engineering degree it still says U of N Lincoln. Must have some brains to achieve that.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 11:37AM CST Russ I am in favor of physical, smashmouth football also. I love the contact of the game. I have always had at least some respect for your posts, But you are out of line here. Kids should be "slapped good upside the head, or knocked around a little for getting out of line" and they will be better football players? Fortunately Nebraska only had 6 child abuse deaths last year. If those kids would have survived they probably would have been stud players. Missouri where I happen to live was 5th in the nation with 42 child abuse deaths. We really know how to slap em around down here. Hell, think what a team MU could have had in a few years if those kids would have survived!

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 12:07PM CST Hot Dang. We are back to infighting with each other rather than attacking some facet of the football team. all has returned to normal.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 12:24PM CST Our scheme sucks on O. Even if we score 50... it's still soft football.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 12:31PM CST ......all has returned to normal....... 1 and 1 in the big 12 is normaL

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 12:34PM CST If soft wins I am all for it

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 12:50PM CST LOL some of my favorite things are very soft, football is not one of them. I think our defense is playing as physically as I can remember in recent history. The offense isn't really soft, they just look lost.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 12:53PM CST soft works in the sunbelt

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 12:53PM CST When you are my age you get used to soft.

Posted by: huskerdog/colo. on October 22, 2009 12:57PM CST Obviously Li'LL BO P retaining Dr. Watson meant the continuation of some form of the "WCO". What Bill Walsh created, w/ex Huskers Craig & Rathman, has apparently greatly changed & we also don't have Joe Montana to run it!! Dr. Watson - start "Buffalo Bill" Cody, script 15 plays he & the offense run well & see what happens! If he struggles make a change. I know that's not take what the defense gives us, but that doesn't seem to work!

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 22, 2009 12:59PM CST Played golf with Churchich a while back. He can still belt it and has a 4 handicap

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 1:02PM CST PT)) You crack me up! You're a funny guy.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 1:05PM CST I say promise Green starts in the next two games regardless so he doesn't have to wonder when he will get in, and let Lee have the incentive of trying to prove himself coming in off the bench. Give them both plenty of reps, and name a starter for the OK game Monday after the Baylor game.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 1:05PM CST PT Husker, Did you pick the red pill? You were supposed to pick the blue one.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 1:10PM CST Pills don't matter if you don't have a container to store them.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 1:10PM CST I am curious to see who starts at every position this week. Sirles? ( by the way, I confused his history with Qvale a while back...my bad. ) It seems to me that about 5 positions are up in the air right now as far as who is going to start.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 1:13PM CST Do you believe the "Helu just had a stinger" story? It seems more chronic than that.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 1:16PM CST I refuse to think about a Banged up Helu. It is a long long ways to 2nd place at Running back. Full denial here.

Posted by: TomOs on October 22, 2009 1:17PM CST It is more serious than made out to be... JMO.. he hardly played 4th qrt and 2nd half.. and if there was anytime we really needed him it was then..

Posted by: charger on October 22, 2009 1:18PM CST Just got done grilling 30lbs chicken & 90 burgers here at work, and things on here still havn't changed. Some people make it sound like we don't have a snowballs chance in hell. I total disagree. this is a young team all the way around. Booing them, the coaches is BS. Either your a fan or your not. if not find another team. And just because your a season ticket holder don't give ya a free pass.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 1:19PM CST I agree, and he is a tough kid. He came up through rugby.

Posted by: TomOs on October 22, 2009 1:24PM CST I'm afraid that so called "stinger" might take a good blow.. and that will be it for him for the season.. you have to love his heart.. and determination..

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 1:25PM CST I agree charger. And I don't think we have "no chance". In fact I think we have all of the tools to win out. I just think the ship is taking on a little water, and I hope the right people are bailing like crazy. Besides, it is late in the week and we are all getting a little anxious.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 1:29PM CST I am afraid of the Dark. I am afraid my wife might have a sudden change of heart and I don't have a blue pill (cause the change won't last long that is for sure). We go with what we got and do the best we can. GO BIG RED.

Posted by: TomOs on October 22, 2009 1:38PM CST So you are afraid to do it in the dark..

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 1:39PM CST charger, That is a lot of grilling. Quite honestly I am really embarrassed about the booing in front of a semi-national audience. Very disturbing in my opinion. Very sad quite honestly.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 1:41PM CST Absolutely PT. Great attitude.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on October 22, 2009 1:46PM CST Watch the TT and NU game last night again. Obviously I was to pissed when I was watching that game the first time to think clearly. Receivers were open down the field Lee was simply not reading and reacting. Slant routes were open at times zone read plays were read wrong. Pass blocking wasn't to bad Lee just had some happy feet. Run blocking left some to be desired but overall wasn't the worse we've witnessed. All in all Lee needs to pull the trigger, lay it all on the line and pull the trigger. He was obviously way to hesitant after the first couple of sacks and touchdowns they put on the board. Your qb has to be a threat to make plays and he wasn't, Roy was our only threat and he's injured. Lee needs to think of it as I'm going throw four tds instead of oh man I can't throw an interception here! You can even think of it this way, if he throws 2 int and 4 td's with our defense we will win. Seriously Roy sit this game out, we need you for the season but we SHOULD be ok in the next two games. Should....I hope....please?

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 1:49PM CST Tom, I would be done before i knew it was dark.

Posted by: charger on October 22, 2009 1:51PM CST I would like to know which recruits have changed their mind about NU. Anybody have legitimate information?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 1:56PM CST None of the recruits have changed their "mines" as redone so eloquently put it.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on October 22, 2009 1:56PM CST Charger - none, redone doesn't stand for red one is stands for red done. He's full of crap, we actually got really good reviews from all the recruits. Even with the loss I haven't found anything that points to the idea that it hurt us in the eyes of the recruits.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 1:59PM CST BRG, I know you are gonna go off cause that is what you do but there was no lack of effort. confusion yes, Shell shocked probably, But lack of effort. Not sure but what that might be a little strong.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:02PM CST You gotta love Iowa. They are scrappy as can be. Those DE's have NFL written all over them. Particularly Clayborn. They also have NFL'ers all across the Oline. To beat Iowa... you will likely have to beat them up front. No easy task. Their QB is a little iffy tho.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:03PM CST PT))) I dunno. I would have to agree with BRG. I saw a lack of effort myself. Disturbing event imo.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:05PM CST By the way Big Red Glory, Would you want your granddaughter or daughter to look at that picture? Can you please change it. If not for me for the sake of any kids that may see it.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 2:12PM CST I guess I saw confusion, Frustration. Kind of "What the hell are we doing wrong" type of stuff. And maybe some disgust at teammates. Perhaps that could be contrued as lack of effort. I think that , in pelinis post game remarks, that would have come up if he saw it. But maybe not. Most of the other things they did wrong came up. so why not that??

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 2:16PM CST BRG. Most often, If someone disagrees you tend to get upset. Or maybe I read some of yur responses wrong. At any rate, I apoligise if I am reading wrong. You love your Huskers and that is all that matters.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:17PM CST Big Red Glory, Thank you very much.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:17PM CST Oh yeah... Iowa keeps it VERY close to the vest. But they run the ball. So they can afford to do that. They run the ball... they stick to the run... they hit that great TE over the top... and they run whether the D is stacked in the box or not. Then they play good defense behind that. No different from how Osborn did it.

Posted by: charger on October 22, 2009 2:21PM CST IMO plus I agree with what the coaching staff has to say about the offence is youth & the lack of game experience period..... These coaches have high expectations rightfully so. How many of you out there practice something very hard with soild results & then when YOU have to perform what ever you are doing ya wet down your leg??

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:21PM CST From the article above... "I'm not saying it was bad effort last week, but it has to be absolutely relentless effort, and all 11 guys have to be doing it on every single play," - Barney Cotton Thats what I saw... guys were not giving it their all. As per what has been said a zillion times this week... I don't think there is any doubt the team played harder once Green was in there. Lack of effort depending on who is playing QB is not the way to go imo.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:22PM CST I know there is a lot of talk on here about running the ball and I agree that we must be able to do so at some point. Having said that, I also very much like that fact that we throw quite often. It seems to me that most are really upset because when we are unable to throw we have no ability to go exclusively to an effective run game. Can we accomplish both tasks? Other teams do.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:28PM CST charger, My guess is that is exactly why they removed the green jerseys. The want practice to be as close to a game environment as possible. Having green jerseys on is not game environment practice. Our d does not have to kill them but I sure hope they are popping them.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:32PM CST Don't worry... Green will be the guy when ready. Patience is a virtue these days.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:35PM CST BRG))) I appreciate the effort on the BAM!!!. But you misspelled it. You got the B, ,A M and the first "!" correct. But if you notice... there is a gratuitous over use of the exclamation points that goes with it and provides the "umph". Like this.... BAM!!!

Posted by: charger on October 22, 2009 2:38PM CST Ok if we just set out to run run run and get stopped get beat then does some of the fan base "we need to throw the ball" our team just can't make anyone happy. :>( Sorry i'm in a bad mood today. it's been raining here since 6:00 last night. I was out in it working parking before the VB game last night in which by the way we got beat by ISU.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on October 22, 2009 2:38PM CST I don't think that tried any harder with Green I think Green just had a comfort level out there that Lee doesn't have. Green stepped into the pocket like you're taught to do. Lee didn't. One guys calm can change the whole perception of the offense.

Posted by: taco on October 22, 2009 2:40PM CST BRG.....the longer lee holds the ball, steps out of the pocket, runs around... the longer our linemen have to hold blocks ect. this results in more holding calls ect. let's hope he gets it together. i liked the way green worked the pocket. would like to see cody start our next game but dont think that is going to happen. GO BIG JUST WIN THE GAME

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:44PM CST My best case scenario is that Green is given the start this week and Zac takes the job back at some point. We then have two very good quarterbacks.

Posted by: KellyGr on October 22, 2009 2:45PM CST First time trying to post on the new blog... Had a nice long message typed out, tried posting but wasn't a member of this group so it was lost... So here's a highlight... I trust the coaches to make the right QB decision. I think Green eventually will be the better QB, but right now I think Lee's experience in the system gives him the slight edge. I keep hearing how Green gives us a big running threat...but he's only shown us flashes in garbage time over already beaten teams. As for the booing...I think fans should be able to boo. Nowhere else in the country do fans have such a big impact on the team... And I'd rather let the coaches know my displeasure on gameday than sit on a blog and complain to nobody. Lee deserved the booing. If you are down, need a touchdown b/c you just burned 10 minutes off the clock, and it's 4th down...be a competitor...grow a pair and try to make something happen. Throw it away? Really? He deserved it... He's the quarterback playing FOR the University of Nebraksa...be a competitor...be a winner or sit the F%$K down. I hope the coaches can get that kid to play some ball...

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 22, 2009 2:47PM CST The whole pace of the game picked up when Green came in. When Lee was in we needed points and needed to speed up, but there just seemed to be a reluctance to want to run the next play. With Green there was an eagerness to run the next play. Some of that was adrenalin. It would be fun to see how long he kept it up. Did you catch his comment about wanting to get smacked early on to clear the butterflies? I liked that.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:47PM CST charger))) People in Nebraska want to run the ball. Win, lose or draw. I'm not saying bring back the option. But come on... lets see something other than Zone blocking... lets see some timing... some push... lets see a FB in there... lets attack a D on the ground for the first time since 2003. Thats all we want. This is the thing. If we ever start to run it strong... then all a team has to do is stack the box... it's that simple. Then Wats will throw it. Thats his scheme. Thats the whole philosophy. And thats why it sucks. We normally don't let the D determine what we do at Nebraska. But we do right now.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 2:48PM CST charger, Yeah I saw that in their 75th attempt Iowa State came here and beat us. Did you go to the game?

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 2:49PM CST Husker Beefeater, You're ok in my book! Need to correct your spelling? Title IX has done away with alot of minor sports at programs and lack of guts for defending by their AD's and athletic programs? Id rather have cully ear than punkin warts. KSU doesn't even support a wrestleing program.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 2:50PM CST I am sticking by my statement after the game. It is time to try something different casue what we are doing is not working. Nor IMO does it show much hope of changing. I am now fully in the Green camp. But If the coaches don't go that way right away or ever it is cause they see something we do not. In the brief time we saw Green he made decisions. Some correct some not, but he made them. And I also thought the team responded to that. I also remember reading on here (so it must be true) that Lee does not take charge in the huddle. Rather tries to be a nice guy. (Passive Vs Agressive). He He he. Passive blogging good. Passive football playing bad.

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 2:55PM CST ISU played both Kansas teams real tough? For what that's worth? I think their new coach is doing well early on in turning a program around that guy jumping to Auburn didn't? KJ, their new coach in wrestling will make them a winner, this I am sure of? Yes Iowa beat them easily and Iowa for now looks like the best in the Big 10 for this season so far? Remember "Respect all and Fear none" I recall some of you weren't respecting TT or others in Big 12 before last weekend? When you lose your perspective of respect you lose! GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 22, 2009 2:57PM CST I can't believe people think the team did not play harder when Green came in. It was obvious to me. Even the D played harder the next possession I thought.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 2:58PM CST Hey Beast, How is Beauty?

Posted by: huskerdog/colo. on October 22, 2009 3:01PM CST AH YES - Bob Churchich & Fred Duda mid 60's - Churchich from Omaha, Fred from Chicago (I think). '65 season - Tony Jeter, Freeman White, Li'L Frankie etc. -undefeated into the Orange Bowl vs 'Bama & (the "Pink Tide) - 20 onside kicks later we lost! Could have been Bobby D's 1st NC (paid back Bear Bryant '71/'72 OB 38 - 6!) Also just missed '63 - Dennis Claridge, Bob Brown etc. - only loss to Air Force (Ben Martin coach) they were more competitive then. Its tough living in the past, but what else do we have!!!

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 3:04PM CST BRG, I also would like to offer some parenting advice to anyone that allows young children to come onto a blog like this. Let's face it....there's got to be more educational and children friendly places for kids to go than this. Some of the language and nastiness on this blog is disliked by many adults...let alone children. My daughter likes Disney.com or everythinggirl.com....I've yet to hear her ask if she can get onto the LJS Life in the Red blog....but then again....you never do know about people. BRG, well stated and needed to be, thanks! Even some adults get offended? We had FU and his wife on gameday blog last week and FU's wife read the Col's comments and didn't like it much? My GF is upset about that being allowed also. I will tell you if it is allowed to continue in future we will be gone also! It drives decent folks away? So what you said needs to be said and policed by others for the good of the blog and how Huskernation represents its image to others? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! Kungfu Panda is one of the most popular movies overhere in China for children, made in Hollywood!

Posted by: NUCORNDEVIL on October 22, 2009 3:06PM CST i suggest NU runs the ball every down, that would convince me of a commitment to running the ball. the sign for getting rid of Watson will be in this game. Its not like us fans are a bunch of armchair coaches, EVERYONE from reporters to ex Pro football coaches, to current college coaches, and current Pro coaches, ALL agree NU needs to establish a power running game. Teams need to know win or lose there will be 60 min of smashmouth football when facing the Skers. Unfortunately there will be more of the same this weekend, running games cannot be implemented overnite. Its a mindset, not a play option.

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 3:11PM CST Beauty is fine PT, this week was hectic for her as she opened some new markets so exciting but tiring. In her business she works in spurts so sometimes really not so hard and other times too much expected of her all at once? Oh, I am sure many of you have jobs like this also? She and I both this is a weekend of redemption for Big Red! I am afraid to reassure her completely, as if it doesn't happen somehow, I then become the bad guy to her? Just how she thinks? A chinese woman be careful to promise sth. that has to be broken, you never hear the end of it? GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: charger on October 22, 2009 3:14PM CST Step Thanks. I want us to be able to run the ball too. The inexperience of the line really hurts, Roy & Rex are banged up don't help. Do you think we hit rock bottom on offence? if so then we are ready to build it back? BleedingRed No I didn't go in and watch the match last night. Was too wet :>)

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 3:17PM CST NUCORNDEVIL, our long time poster No Nothing, why he is so upset also along your vein of thinking? I hope No Nothing comes back and rejoins us at some point in time, also? GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 3:22PM CST huskerdog/colo., Yes Ben Martin on the radio for games at AFA and liked from the past? But you missed alot about AFA, they were competitive both in Ken Hatfield and Fisher days as well? AFA has beaten all the Big Dogs at one time or another? Military schools are fun games to attend also and what they bring to a game? Go Falcons! and GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 3:26PM CST thanks Wrestler...i know my spelling sucks. I never really check it plus im bad on a keyboard. Numbers is what I do for a living so that has it's impact...GBR!

Posted by: NUCORNDEVIL on October 22, 2009 3:30PM CST hey wrestler...weve chatted B4 about wresteling, last year. I went to Nortf High(Omaha), State wrestling champ. i dont read much of no nothing, but i strongly agree with rattenkriegplatte, this poster seems to have a firm grip on reality and common sense...

Posted by: Wrestler on October 22, 2009 3:31PM CST HuskerBeefeater, I for one should not correct your spelling as I am the worst! Students at university watch me always opening the dictionary for spelling checks? As I learned to spell by phonics or sounding the word and that gets you in trouble many times? So just teasing moreso about your spelling? Step doesn't do a good job on purpose for his spelling of my beloved sport also? All in fun! But title IX, I believe in women's sports but also don't believe in cutting costs of elimination of men's minor sports too? This I put on the hands of AD's that bailout too easily in trying to balance programs? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! NU does a good job in retention of minor sports and that is a good thing!

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 3:37PM CST you bet. KSUcks doesn't field a womens softball team but puts an equestrian team together as a varsity sport.Weird. I've heard they do that because Bill Snyder's kids ride horses...Same goes with CU and ISU not going with mens Baseball. I dont like it.GBR!

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 3:42PM CST BRG- wish I could ad insight. I agree that it really doesn't make any sense. Im thinking some changes will be happening this week to install a better game plan or different scheme. Wasn't Hickman talking earlier that the O was going to get "big" more now? Im not sure whats coming next but I'm hoping we get it going soon.GBR!

Posted by: MileHiHusker on October 22, 2009 3:42PM CST For craps sake. It's ISU at 4-3. NU will not have a problem with them after the 1st half.

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 3:52PM CST Big Red Glory, I can't speak for Watson but I think he meant something more like this... We want to run the ball and we also want to throw the ball. If the defense is dedicated to a stop the run first mentality then we should be able to throw the ball on them and get them to back off. When they start respecting the pass then we will run the ball. I think that most of the defenses can be recognized by an experienced qb and the play can be changed to take advantage of what the defense is doing. I really think that this is at the core of what Watson's offense tries to do. Unfortunately it also puts a tremendous amount of responsibility on 1 person to not only get things right but to hope that the other 10 do as well. It certainly complicates matters. However, all of these kids are actually really bright. Regardless of how bright they are though there is still of lot of potential for mistakes. Generally, with an older and more experienced team they can make it look a lot easier. In our case they are making it look a lot harder. This is not to say that they are not capable of doing the job. It is to say that they have a lot of things that can go wrong and so far have.

Posted by: NUCORNDEVIL on October 22, 2009 3:53PM CST BRG...watsons philosophy puts an enormous ammount of responsibility w/the QB. there are many pre snap reads he has to make(for a college QB) thats why NU cant seem to run a hurry up offense or a 2 min offense. this will also explain his, in play, delay to throw the ball, Lee is thinking too much. This offense we run with the pre snap reads is hard for some young Pro QBs to learn. This will also explain why good young talent wont see the field for 2+ years(Mendoza) too many protection schemes, blocking schemes, 'pics' etc... if I had someone on my team that could run a 4.29-4.30 40, i would make playes just for him, i wouldnt care if the other team thinks he is going to get the ball. The reality of the situation is Watson doesnt have what it takes, we dont have 15 years of Bo carrying him to learn what that is. Canz carried Wats last year and its painfully obvious, Put a nice fat check in his back pocket tell him thank you and open the door.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 22, 2009 3:55PM CST John Cook might disagree. but I don't. We have to much talent for ISU. Not enough for some others.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on October 22, 2009 4:01PM CST I am getting awfully tired of crappy a$$ Husker fans. This YOUNG team has things that they need to work on. With Bo, and Wats THEY WILL. Show some support, and patience. It's a process thats moving in the right direction. We still have sunshine Bills recruits. Also Pelini is passionate, and competitive. THANK GOD, thats what this team needed in the last couple of years. We are not going to blow people out every week, not yet anyhow. .................patience young grasshopper

Posted by: befuddledsker on October 22, 2009 4:01PM CST IMO watts is a good O-coordinator giving him the boot would only hurt us,thats all this program was doing change change change, we need too stick it out.through winning and loseing. i agree with the run game we need more but with helu banged up and burkehead out its tough too put that kind of pressure on back ups. Hopefully they insert more running schemes against i state and baylor,but lets try too support the coaches and players as best we can after all there just kids out there playing .

Posted by: BleedingRed on October 22, 2009 4:03PM CST We certainly should be able to handle Iowa State. I am pretty sure that the days of having guaranteed victories are all but over though.

Posted by: befuddledsker on October 22, 2009 4:04PM CST Well said blackshirtbeado!!

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on October 22, 2009 4:06PM CST :3 keys for the Huskers in Pelinis 2nd year: 1. Compete for the North(not win, compete) 2. Play inspired for 4 quarters 3. Go to a semi respectable bowl, and win Thats it folks, we do that, and the program is taking the right steps. QUIT DRINKING THE KOOLAID. It's giving you all hangovers

Posted by: HuskerBeefeater on October 22, 2009 4:25PM CST redone. OWNER OF MY OWN FIRM SO BUG OFF. I have people like you do the dirty work. BTW-business is good. Thanks!

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 22, 2009 4:39PM CST I have and do support Coach Watson...I have not bagged on him at all..........but in his interview he simply said that the offense is going through what the defense did last year......it's because the offense is young. We've played six games and the youth still hasn't been able to pick up the offense? To me the offense should keep getting better not worse. It just sounded a little strange to me.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on October 22, 2009 5:17PM CST Yeah Big Red Glory? If Husker fans want to boo 18 yearold college kids then they should hand over their Red, and revoke their citizenship in the HuskerNation

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on October 22, 2009 5:18PM CST Actually from what I saw in the stands last saturday. The Refs got booed more than any of the players did. The Stadium let the refs have it for the poor calls

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on October 22, 2009 5:22PM CST ... I guess I am being naive, I mean, would should've had the National Championship locked up by Halloween right??? After all Bo has been here long enough...Right?