Life in the Red Group

Posted by: KChusker on October 6, 2009 8:08AM CST Bam!

Posted by: KChusker on October 6, 2009 8:11AM CST Finish off drives! Finish the game! Finish the Tigers! It's time to expose the posers, this years Mizzou team is better than expected, but not as good as last years.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 6, 2009 8:14AM CST Ensure there is a passing game to complement the Helu factor. If not Helu will get cranked on

Posted by: salmon_slayer63 on October 6, 2009 8:27AM CST 1) If Zac doesnt complete 55% of his passes we'll have troubles again. Against VT he went 11-30 and that won't get it done. We need the Zac that went 15-18, 11 days ago. 2)Due to past games I believe scoring on our 1st drive is really important. 3) Get them off the field on 3rd down!!

Posted by: Nebtech on October 6, 2009 8:29AM CST Our Defense is perfectly capable of putting pressure on Gabbert. He isn't really all that different than Lee in some respects, and look at how Zac was affected by the pressure from VT. Maybe this will be Gabbert"s baptism by fire, and his stats will fall when he is rushed. Helu is going to be a big factor! Containing him should be high on MU's "to do" list. His performance against VT shows he is capable of running well in hostile environments. Red zone woes are the big unknown for NU!! If this problem has been resolved, then look for this game to become an easy notch on the NU gunbelt. It all comes down to the statement from KChusker.... Finish the Drives!!!!

Posted by: 4BigRed on October 6, 2009 8:37AM CST Haven't watched Mizzou play this year. Are they still running the no-huddle with Gabbert like they did with Daniel?

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 8:43AM CST Didn't VT run the no huddle with the looking to the sideline before snap also?

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 8:47AM CST I have solved the Red Zone Problem. Score from the 30. Then it is not an issue. Simple huh? hehe he

Posted by: Tennessee-Husker87 on October 6, 2009 8:52AM CST Huskers need to dominate the Special Teams facet of the game too ... GBR!

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on October 6, 2009 8:52AM CST PT: I drink to that!

Posted by: WyHuskerFan on October 6, 2009 9:01AM CST The keys to this game are the same as they are in every game. Make the other team one dimensional and pressure the QB. Nothing different about BG who reminds me of Josh Freeman. The ULL O line is better than MU's and what good did it do them. But more than pressure, the Blackshirts need to contain and sack. BG shows good instinct outside the pocket where he continues to look down field. The Illini defense thought he ran well, enough said. GBR!

Posted by: 4BigRed on October 6, 2009 9:03AM CST 59 hours to kickoff!!!

Posted by: WyHuskerFan on October 6, 2009 9:03AM CST Tennessee-Husker87, are those the Grand Tetons in your Avatar?

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 9:12AM CST I am hoping that this game will show the rest of the conference that there is a new way to play football in the BigXII. DEFENSE can win football games. I am hopeing to shut them down. Hold them to two scores max. That may be a little optimistic but that is what I want to see. I will concede a feild goal and they score no more than 17. They are with out a doubt the best offensive team we have played so I gotta give them that much. We can score at will on their defense as long as we don't hurt ourselves. 35-17 BIG RED.

Posted by: taco on October 6, 2009 9:14AM CST Huskers win by 3 maybe 10 points. i thinks the little tiger run against us the last few years is over. HUSKERS ARE BACK......JACK

Posted by: WyHuskerFan on October 6, 2009 9:18AM CST I say we let the rest of the conference concentrate on putting up big offensive stats while we perfect our relentless defense. That should make the OC's/track coaches sweat when game planning for us. GBR!

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on October 6, 2009 9:39AM CST Here is a great story on the history of the Big 8 and the later Big 12 and how it has affected many teams, especially Colorado Football today. http://www.dailycamera.com/sports-columnists/ci_13431004 The author has some good solid points and any Husker fan readying will really have a good feeling about our own program. We should not take what we love for granted as Colorado is having some very deep problems with money, recruiting, and support. Go read it.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 9:42AM CST Gabbert is a good QB not a great one. I remember a pretty good QB from Tennessee that didn't have much luck against the Blackshirts. We will be the aggressors and be more physical than Missouri. I will be dumb founded if we don't win by at least two scores...and probably worse. Lee will put the nay sayers to rest with a steller performance and the defense will get their Blackshirts before the next game.

Posted by: WyHuskerFan on October 6, 2009 9:50AM CST BW Dave, I read that article a week ago and the author made some valid points. TO said when the Big XII was formed the talent would go to the south and he's been proven right. Bo has done a remarkable job considering who he has to compete with regionally as well as nationally.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 9:54AM CST Where do all of you Nebraska fans get all of this over confidence from? You have not beaten anyone but a bunch of bad Sunbelt teams and LOST to VA Tech. Granted Mizzou has not beaten anyone of any consequence either. This will be a closer game then the beatdown Mizzou administered to you guys in Lincoln last year. This game is in Columbia where you have not won since 2001. Mizzou wins 34-20

Posted by: HuskerzVA on October 6, 2009 10:02AM CST Can't wait for Thursday night!

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 10:06AM CST Ah finally a misery poster...is that you booger eater? Hell yes we think we're going to beat you. How long did you think Nebraska was going to be down and let a no name team like yours represent the North in the Big XII championship......BTW really successful outings there, huh?

Posted by: HuskerzVA on October 6, 2009 10:09AM CST Watch out fleaflicker he might spit on you.

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 10:12AM CST hey troll who the hell you beat this year?? well talk about a beat down after the game.

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 6, 2009 10:18AM CST Ms. Missouri. You look good, you smell good, but the fact is you don't play good. Home is where the heart is, and be prepared to get yours ripped out.........so to speak.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 10:19AM CST This is not the "good old days" as you Husker fans like to think back to. You guys are probably wishing that they rotary phone was still en vogue as well. Oklahoma laid a beat down on you guys just like they did the Tigers last year. I would say we have fared just as well as you have in the championship game the last 10 years. Neither team has won jack crap in it. I love how you guys always resort to the name calling and booger eater comments. Great fans.... puhleazzzz.... I was in Lincoln for that beatdown last year and the stadium was half empty middle of the 3rd quarter. We had obscenities shouted and ice thrown at us. What happened to the good Husker fans from back in the day? Oh that is right.. you have sunk to new lows just like the team has.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 10:26AM CST Nebraska is not the same team they were when they played Mizzou last year. After that beatdown, they played much better. Overconfidence? Could be. Missouri is still a good team, two time defending North division champs. Some big time playmakers are gone this year, but I don't think Pinkel was fooling himself and thinking that Maclin and Daniels were not going to leave school. He has been grooming others to take their place. Nebraska's strength has been their defense (imagine that!). The defense is 4X better than last year. This gives Mizzou 13 points (1/4 of 52). Nebraska's offense is about 3/4 as good as last year's offense. This gives Nebraska about 12 points. Missouri's defense is about 80% as good as last year's team. An additional 3 points for the Huskers. Finally, special teams. Nebraska is worth another 10 points better in that area. Final score NU 25 MU13. Not overconfidence just logical analysis.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 10:28AM CST We have our traditions to fall back on when going through tough times. Missouri has............what do you have, what have you won? Oh I remember you won a three way tie with Kansas State and Colorado in a close contest of fans most wanting to be like Nebraska. Show me, show you. Happy times are here for a long time. Misery will slug it out with their rival Kansas.....which will kick your a** too. You won't even make it to a bowl game this year.

Posted by: Nebtech on October 6, 2009 10:29AM CST A friend of mine made a point once.... He said "if you score, don't act like it's the first time you ever saw the end zone!!" It's kind of like that for some fans... The Tigger fans are still learning how to deal with the moderate success they have had.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 10:34AM CST Go Mizzu. First of all Welcome to our space. I read som stuff from your space and your bloggers were just a little more polite to KC Husker adn some others. 2nd. no it is not the good old days. But it is not the bad old days either. this is a vastly improved version of Husker football from even last year. 3rd. Va tech is by far the best football team either of us has played. We did not finish on several occasions. Should have been a decisive Vicxtory but it was not. but the kids have learned and it give us fans a glimpse of how good we can be. 4th your O line by most of your sports writers admissions is not very good. Suh and his cohorts are thye best you will see the rest of the year. Huge advantage to NU. Two young QB's that are still learning. Our D trumps yuor O. Huskers win in a competitive game. Thanks for the visit.

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on October 6, 2009 10:36AM CST Posted by: GoMizzou Once, we had a good respectable rivalry. But, it was never the same after Dan Devine left Columbia. Something changed. Missou fans over the years, especially the younger ones, became nasty and we are still wonder why? Jealousy perhaps? Somewhere, you all lost you concept of sportsmanship. Just remember, you are correct that you have done well since 2001. But you have not handled yourself well. Not your players, not your fans. Your players have big mouths, You win and then You insult the loser. I would rather see NU play Oklahoma or Texas on every Saturday rather than have to accommodate such that comes from Columbia Missery. After you lose Thursday night's game, don't whine or bellyache about it. Cause we wont feel sorry for you in the least.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 10:36AM CST I'm sorry about the disrespect you were shown before GoMizzou. That is not how most Husker fans act. We expect that from Mizzou fans and worse from Buff fans.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 10:36AM CST Huskerzone you seem to be one of the few on here that can talk rational football analysis... albeit in a flawed logic. Our defense was horrible last year. This years unit is much improved at not giving up the big play as in years past. They have only allowed 8 plays of 20 yards or more all season so far. (against bad competition) Both of our teams have not played anyone worth a crap. You guys did play a good VA Tech team but there QB is just god awful and that game would have been a lot worse loss IMHO if he could even throw the ball into the ocean. Our special teams are probably dead even. Our FG kicker hasnt missed yet this year and the punter averages over 42 in net punting. Neither team has returned one for a TD. In this regard both teams are dead even. I will give you that your defense is improved over last year when we played you. We are not quite as good on offense as we were a year ago but not a 35 point drop off. This game is played in Columbia where you have not won since 2001. All of the kids on the Nebraska team were in Jr High the last time the Huskers won in Columbia. Home field advantage is the biggest key in this game. If it were in Lincoln I would give your team the edge but not in Columbia.

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 10:38AM CST Good morning. We have set up a temporary operation in Columbia. Emails have been sent to all tiger fans offering up services that may be required by the fans. Especially the ones with money. We decided on a temporary position rather than permanent as to more reflect the success of the Missouri football team. Several of my partners pushed hard for a permanent facility but after further review they agreed that their position was not valid for a variety of well known reasons. Husker fans and as PT knows, the office is always open and you receive priority "couching." For a discount this week use the codewords "Be kind to animals especially kittens."

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 10:46AM CST Every fan see things through rose colored glasses for each team they root for. There are bad fans in every lot. I don't condone any Mizzou fans screaming obscenities at the opposing fans or acting like fools at the game, in a bar or on a forum. Nebraska fans used to be the model that all fans wanted to aspire to but since you have not been on top of the big 12 north in some time the Nebraska fans level of decency has dropped as well. Having civil discussion about football is what its about. Even some good natured chest thumping, smack talk and rubbing it in is all in good fun.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 10:46AM CST BRG........you probably hit a nerve with that one. GoMisery thinks we're irrational in thinking that we'll win.......yet we are a 3 point favorite. Guess the experts forgot to check with GoMisery's rationalization.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 10:48AM CST Comparing your fans to ours is like comparing apples to horse s***.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 10:52AM CST If we all looked through rose colored glasses, wouldn't we all yell "Go Big Red"?

Posted by: dbhuskers on October 6, 2009 10:53AM CST I think you could our secondary as the keys to the game. If our dline gets pressure, not a problem, but if they are unable to get pressure, then our secondary will have to step up. This will be their first big test of the season against a true and successfull passing team.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 10:53AM CST Big Red Glory - all of your history from prior 2000 and 10 cents will get you well... absolutely nothing. We are in a new era where it is not your grandpa's, dads or even your youthful days Huskers. Your team looks like it is elevating its play and should be a challenger for the Big 12 north this year. I have nothing but respect for the tradition for the Husker football program. With that being said you guys are having an awful hard time accepting the fact that you havent been a great team in quite some time. If I had been on top for so long I might be a little upset that my team has been passed up by Mizzou as well.

Posted by: Outside The Box on October 6, 2009 11:03AM CST Technically (and I'll be the first to admit it's a dirty technicallity) Nebraska was the North co-champion last year, and won it outright in 2006. While that is a far cry from our traditional level of success, it's not as if we've turned into Colorado or KSU.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 11:07AM CST the same could be said about Nebraska going on a 2 game losing streak if they lose to Mizzou. When was the last time you guys beat Texas Tech? Mike Leach has owned the Huskers since he came to Lubbock in 2001. He is 4-1 versus the Huskers all time.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 11:11AM CST Go Mizzouri, With all due respect, while you did trounce us last year in our house, we still ended up tied for the North last year. As far as your treatment in our house last year I apologise for that. Might however be some payback for some of your "bad fans". Still should not happen. your 14 points is optimistic but it should be if you are a fan. With the D we have you could be lucky to score that many. Plesase come back after the game. You seem like a decent guy.

Posted by: Outside The Box on October 6, 2009 11:11AM CST Nebraska leads the all-time series with Texas Tech 7-3. While the 70-10 loss to Tech hurt really bad, I don't think it counted as two losses.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 11:13AM CST The team can't afford to look forward to next week against TT. We, as fans, can. TT is a shell of what they were. There is disunity on that team that would make the differences between conservatives and liberals look minor.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 11:18AM CST I said with Mike Leach as the coach of Texas Tech they are 4-1 versus Neb. I misspoke there. He is 3-1 versus Nebraska with a game yet to be played next week.

Posted by: Outside The Box on October 6, 2009 11:19AM CST I love how you guys always resort to the name calling and booger eater comments. Great fans.... puhleazzzz.... I was in Lincoln for that beatdown last year and the stadium was half empty middle of the 3rd quarter. We had obscenities shouted and ice thrown at us. What happened to the good Husker fans from back in the day? Oh that is right.. you have sunk to new lows just like the team has. ------------------------------------- Ironically enough, Missouri fans were pretty nice...until they started winning. I had great experiences and interactions with Mizzou fans in 97, 99, 01, and even 03 (the year they broke through). But my experience in 05 was absolutely terrible. Rude fans shouting curses and making threats before, during, and after the game. There were a few times I thought we were going to be physically attacked. I've watched Nebraska play in every Big 12 stadium and have never had a worse experience from the opposing fans (and I sat through the 62-36 loss in Colorado in 2001). I'm done until Mizzou becomes a 6-6 team again or they prove they can win with class - which is too bad because Columbia is one of my favorite stops in the North.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on October 6, 2009 11:27AM CST GoMizzou, I think I may have a take on some of your fans' behavior over the past decade. Both sides of my family are from Nebraska, they went to school there. I lived in Missouri through school and met my wife there though. My best friend is a Missouri fan and his parents and mine would go to the games in Columbia, so I guess I don't have as bad of an impression on the real fans up there. Those experiences also forced me to step outside of my little scarlet and cream bubble and look at things from our friends' perspective. We saw firsthand how angry they were when we won those close ones in the 1980's. Any young Husker fans on this blog, if you are still as angry as I am about the Va Tech loss, imagine Mizzou doing that to us half of the time, beating us 52-17 or 41-6 the other half for 22 more years. Yes, we have broken their hearts many times over. Anyone remember the 1997 game we won by a fluke play? If we were in for that type of drought with them, some of us wouldn't be alive to finally see us prevail against them. So, naturally, they are going to whoop it up when they end the dominance of us. While I'm getting a little tired of losing to Mizzou, we don't even know what tired is compared to how long we made them suffer. That said, I wouldn't want to hear smack talk today by Mizzou fans unless they beat us, run the table, win the big12, and beat Florida in the Rose Bowl. My sister is going to the game Thursday and she hates Mizzou fans. I told her to be above the jaw jacking with them and do what I did last time I was there. Tell them you don't like Kansas and they will be much better hosts. Tell them you hate Kansas and someone will probably buy you a beer. I know some on here have been treated bad in Columbia, but these are the experiences I have had there. Now, let's go in there and end our losing streak at the Zoo. GBR!!!!!!

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 11:29AM CST Maybe the Misery fans are f****** hillbillies and they just don't know any better. I have been to games that included all of the Big XII shools except Baylor. All were good experiences except for Misery, sCUm, and the Mildcats. I really do think the green monster (jealousy) brings out these fan's true identity.

Posted by: Nebtech on October 6, 2009 11:30AM CST I think most of us would agree a blowout win for NU this Thursday would be a good thing.... That said, I cannot believe there is anyone here that would want MU to fail and become a bottom feeder team. In order for the Big12 to be a top notch, tough conference, the north needs to be as tough as the south, hopefully other teams in the north can improve as the Tigers have in recent years. That can only help NU become stronger and get them on the way back to what they once were. Truth be told that same stategy works for Mizzou as well. In any game, whether winning or losing, each team should learn something about itself and the things it needs to improve upon. That would seem to be the gist of what coach Pelini is all about too.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 11:30AM CST I will be gladly post if Nebraska beats Mizzou in Columbia and congratulate you on the win. I expect the same in return of Mizzou beats you again in Columbia. Thursday night cant get here quick enough. I will be driving down from Omaha with my coworkers on Wednesday after work to get the early start for the game. For those of you going to the game and would like to tailgate look for the 2007 Silver Dodge ram with Nebraska plates that has a Mizzou sticker in the back window and a Mizzou license plate frame. We will have Beer and a bar-b-q

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 11:34AM CST We can post on your website to congratulate the Mizzou fans if they win Go Mizzou. What is the website most used by Missouri fans?

Posted by: MileHiHusker on October 6, 2009 11:36AM CST Huskers aint scared of MU. 2 of the 3 losses to TT were bizzare endings for the Huskers. 3 years ago an interception to end the game turned into a fumble and a 50 yard gain on a 4th down to take the last one into OT. I think TT's luck has run out, or maybe ran out. "Victory is always possible for the person who refuses to stop fighting." NU will not give up.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 11:36AM CST http://www.tigerextra.com/ That is Columbia Newspaper just like the Lincoln paper. There are a couple of Nebraska posters on there that are good people.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 11:37AM CST GoMizzou There's always bad apples in every group however there just seems to be more in Missouri and Colorado. We just don't have the same level of poor fan behavior with regards to an Oklahoma, Kansas, Oklahoma State. I lived in KC for awhile and have had consistent bad experiences with Missouri fans dating back decades. Not so with KU fans. Why do you dislike the Huskers so much that it provokes this behavior?

Posted by: rapbama on October 6, 2009 11:44AM CST Nebraska football is not what it used to be. I don't know if it is lack of recruiting or coaching, my guess is the Huskers just don't have very much home grown talent to tap into. Oklahoma is closer to Texas and gets a lot of talent. Nebraska could never win much with a roster of Nebraska kids, and Kentucy baseketball is in the same situation, but they recruit well, and you only need about 5 really good players to have a good basketball team. Football requires a lot more players and Nebraska just doesn't produce much football talent.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 11:45AM CST GoMisery, Why don't you put some red on and go to the game and see how your fans treat you.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 11:47AM CST rapbama........what the hell are you talking about?

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 11:48AM CST gofo that is a good question. The same question has been asked of Husker fans on their attitude toward Colorado, Missouri and Kansas. This action by a fairly significant of husker fans cannot be just explained away by "oh it is all because of the way those other fans act." This has almost become a "hate" from the husker fans toward these other schools. There are some "inner-child" feelings that do make their way to the surface. Especially in the "I am the bully" syndrome which is usually attributed to living in the past and vicariously through some past event that no longer has much real meaning. No longer being the bully and now being bullied by these "lessors" causes many actions that in most cases, though not rational are really a true representation of the inner child. Being the bully is a hard attribute to give up.

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 11:49AM CST GoMisery how are your fans going to act if we win?

Posted by: MileHiHusker on October 6, 2009 11:52AM CST Flea, Obviously rapbama is talking about basketball and stuff....I guess.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 11:55AM CST huskertherapist....Obviously other teams think that Nebraska is a class act, the recent article from the journalist is an example. Being raised on a farm in the western part of Nebraska we were taught to work hard, be honest, and respect people. I believe that the Husker fans have been more than fair and forgiving of the fans from schools like CU, KSU, and Missouri. But we are not so passive that we'll let somebody run over us. We have pride in not only our team but ourselves.

Posted by: salmon_slayer63 on October 6, 2009 11:55AM CST Nice offer GoMizzou, I do side with the Husker fans on this blog though Huskers should win. The keys to the game are about the same as always. Nothing new there. Now its a battle of wills and execution. Home Field is definitely gonna be for Misery. I think our D is better then yours. I think our O's are about the same. Special teams I think we are better. The untangelbles are a toss up right now. That will be the TO margin. Either team wins that category by 3-1 wins the game. I expect there to be about 350 yards gained by Misery and 400 or so gained by the Huskers. So RZ scoring will be necessary I dont see this being a 17-14 game, more like 35 -24. TD's will be necessary FG's will not get it done. Bo Big RED!!

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 11:57AM CST I worked in one of the hospitals in KC. I was too busy to pay much attention to CFB, but some of my professional colleagues found out I attended NU as an undergrad. Obnoxious behavior towards me ensued. I even took several of them to Lincoln to a MU/NU game, these guys were good guys except for their hatred for the Huskers. I never understood it. therapist I can't speak to your description of recent Husker fan behavior, I haven't been around it, but it wouldn't surprise me. However I speaking about the 60's,70's,80's and 90's.

Posted by: India_Husker@USC on October 6, 2009 11:58AM CST rapbama, NU was never a recruiting hotbed and will never be. The issue with kids nowadays is that they do not want to buy into the Nebraska culture. Hard work, respect and perseverance are not instilled in kids these days for whatever reason. People in 50's, 60's and 70's understood what hardship means and they embraced it. Nebraska was and is exactly that. Take it from someone who is not Nebraskan. Look at Callahans recruiting classes. They were good but the kids lacked heart. The word smash mouth is sounds ancient these days, doesnt it?

Posted by: MileHiHusker on October 6, 2009 11:59AM CST Charger, It's - when we win. I suppose that will depend on by how much we win. If it is by a lot then I doubt the MU fans will stick around to watch the end. If it is close it will most likely be ugly with the swearing, yelling and throwing of things.

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 12:06PM CST Fleflicker, Excellent points. Please recall that there are farms and ranches in all states including Kansas, Missouri and Colorado where the basics you mention are also taught and revered. It is not because you did it in Nebraska, it is because you are a farmer. State lines are somewhat imaginary and in most cases defined by rivers and such, and for the most part have past political implications. One must understand that the Huskers are not exempt from rabid misbehaving fans and that fan is just short for fanatic which translates in to fanaticism. And as you would know this can be defined as good as well as bad. The bully syndrome is hard to identify from within and is protected by many by words such as: We will not let you run over us, We did not start it, it is all because of the other fans, etc. I am looking for a very good game on Thursday. And lots of revenue prior, during and after. Hoe the rows and keep them plentiful

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 12:08PM CST Dallas I disagree with your analogy vis a vie VT/MU. I don't hate VT because they won that game. I don't hate Oklahoma because they tore my heart out as a kid. I respect them.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 12:15PM CST therapist Please articulate how and why you perceive Husker football success as bullying. That's not a usual term to describe successful teams in view of the mandate of sporting events.

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 12:17PM CST milehigh i was just trying to be nice :>) were going to paddle their ass.......................

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 12:22PM CST Gofor It is not the team winning that is bullying. It is the fans fanaticism when the team is not. In the last years, the failure of the team to "live up to its past" has elevated the fanaticism of the husker fans into a not so "we are the best fans way" and more of the bullying I refer too. is You can see it on the blogs and in the stands.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on October 6, 2009 12:30PM CST No one has mentioned turnovers or penalties as keys to the game, unless I missed it. With two evenly matched teams duking it out, the game could well turn on an unexpected mistake at the wrong time. I think we are about due a break, but you never know on someone else's home field at night with the unruly Missouri fans.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 12:34PM CST therapist Like I said, I've been out of the loop recently so I can't speak to your accusations. Maybe Bullying is not the term you need to describe that behavior. I was treated that way by Missouri fans years ago and I wouldn't call it Bullying. In fact that's the last thing I would call it, because it suggests that I'm a victim and it's the default excuse now days when folks loose or things don't go their way. I take the hit, don't call the winner a bully and move on.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 12:36PM CST Howdy Ray Guy Long time no see Hope your doing well I'm looking for a major Blackshirt statement Thurs. GBR

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 6, 2009 12:37PM CST Ray, You may have hit it on the head. Looking for the break as well. Huskers by 14

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 12:38PM CST Fans, do not play. they make noise etc, and can be irritating to sit by if you are on the other team. But players cannot be bothered by them. At least not the unruly ones. Noise can be a distraction but all good teams overcome it. Stupid penalties on the other hand are a major problem. Perhaps some holding by Mizzu??. Even that does not work to stop Big Sue but it might be worth a try. Advantage NU.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 12:41PM CST Afternoon PT Why is that troll always buzzing around your posts? Don't you have any bug repellent? Back to work, later

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 12:45PM CST There are going to be obnoxious fans everywhere. Although those fans are rearing their ugly heads more at NU games than they used to, I still feel the percentage of them is much lower at DONU than at most schools. MU has a high percentage. I am livimg in Mizzery and know a missouri kid who played in NU's band. He said the worst place they were treated was in Columbia. They had to dodge beer cans and spit going on and off the field. I feel serving alcohol at college games is a factor, and am glad NU takes a higher road.

Posted by: India_Husker@USC on October 6, 2009 12:45PM CST I hate to say this. Did you see Chase Daniels attitude last year at NU with all the crowd noise. He smirked at all of us and went about destroying our team. It was to the point that I thought he has to have 666 etched at the back of his head. Anyways, I bring this up because our team needs to have that destructive attitude. We are a well coached team. We have to put on our game face and go in there with the will to destroy them.

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 12:46PM CST You know that Bo, Marvin, Barny, Ron, and Jeff Jamrog were on the staff when the three game winning streak at Mizzou started. It ends this year. Our team has the focus, may not have all the talent in the world, but there will be some smacking going on. FEAR THE CORN ya tigers

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 6, 2009 12:49PM CST This was pretty cute from the "dash" on espn.com "apology letters" Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert (6): "I'd just like to sincerely apologize to Nebraska fans for committing to you in May of 2007, then dumping you a few months later for a Big 12 North rival. Look, I was only a junior in high school, and I didn't know Bill Callahan was going to pilot your program like it was the Exxon Valdez. So I bailed and went with my home-state school. Don't hate me because I'm No. 4 nationally in pass efficiency and have yet to throw an interception in college, and it's up to your defense to stop me Thursday night in a clash of Big 12 North contenders. Love the one you're with. In this case, Zac Lee."

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 12:52PM CST We can love Zac Lee AND hate Blaine Gabbert. The two are not exclusive.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 12:56PM CST GoMizzou. In your honest opinion, what it the upside and downside to Blaine and the upside and downside to his brother, Tyler?

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 12:59PM CST They still are predicting 70% chance of rain and thunderstorms in Columbia Thursday and Thursday night. I think that will be a factor in our favor. + turnovers for the blackshirts! Go Big Red!

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 1:01PM CST Charlie McBride said after the ASU loss in 96 "Sometimes a hard lesson is a good lesson." Not compairing the teams by no means but the point is we learned a hard lesson at VT. Take it to the bank our boys will be ready to go. GBR!!

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 1:05PM CST Past glory. Narcissistic personalities have many features and forms. You may uses this as a self analysis tool. Narcissistic personality disorder is a condition characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, need for admiration, extreme self-involvement, and lack of empathy for others. ........ .....Vulnerability in self-esteem makes individuals with this disorder very sensitive to criticism or defeat. Although they may not show it outwardly, criticism may haunt these individuals and may leave them feeling humiliated, degraded, hollow, and empty..... ...They may react with disdain, rage, or defiant counterattack. ....... ; performance may be disrupted due to intolerance of criticism or defeat. Sometimes vocational functioning can be very low, reflecting an unwillingness to take a risk in competitive or other situations in which defeat is possible. Individuals with this disorder have special difficulties adjusting to growing old and losing their former ?superiority? I am hoping the huskers play with much enthusiasm and skill this Saturday.

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 1:06PM CST Of course I meant Thursday. GBR

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:12PM CST He He He He.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 1:15PM CST Huskerzone the upside on Blaine Gabbert is that he will turn into a McCoy or Bradford type QB that plays at his best in big games and is a high first round NFL pick. The downside is that he will be Josh Freeman. A 1st round NFL pick but doesnt do a lot to distinguish himself in his college career. I think it was CBSsportsline or it could have been ESPNinsider that has him as the top rated pro prospect for 2012. Tyler Gabbert on the other hand is more suited for the college game since he is only 6'0" tall. Tyler whom I have never seen play in person, just the youtube clips and the scouting highlights clips on rivals. Tyler from all accounts plays with a fiery edge where Blaine is more of the cool customer that keeps the emotions in check. The high end for Tyler would be that he would be a Todd Reesing, Chase Daniel type of guy where that he makes everyone around him better. The low end is that he doesnt turn out to be any better than Sam Keller.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 1:16PM CST BRG.............:)

Posted by: drivebyposter on October 6, 2009 1:21PM CST Pt, It is spelled heh heh heh corn by 14

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:23PM CST The Football tgeam we are playing this weekend has my attention and respect. Can't say the same about a segment of the fan base or a few, now departed, players. But as a program and team they have got my attention. For all of our prognostications to bear fruition, (big words seem to be the norm right now) we gotta bring our A game in all phazes. Frankly we may be about even on paper and that is reflected by the spread. It will come down to execution and who wants it most. Which it most often does. Who steps up and makes a play? (IE Tyrod Taylor on the touch down pass). Does Asante jar the ball lose? Does Holt hang on in traffic? Does Helu break about 5 tackles on the way to the endzone? Or is it Gabbert? Or weatherspoon? Soon we know. Ya all know where my money is.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 1:25PM CST Thanks Mizzou. Just wanted your opinion. I didn't get the scoop about Tyler being fiery. If so, that could lead to more turnovers when the game is on the line by trying to force things to happen. I know he filled in well for Blaine when Blaine got hurt in high school. I also know he's having a great year this year. I have to admit that when I saw Blaine against Nevada, I started salivating a little. He had a tendency to throw from his back foot, to lob the ball to his receivers. With quicker DBs, that could lead to a few pick 6's. They say he has a rifle arm, maybe I just didn't see it.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 1:25PM CST I look for Blaine to be a lot like Josh Freeman. Both have the same flaw.......lack of committment. It really was evident in Josh's play. When things got a little warm in the kitchen he bailed. To me Blaine seems to be a little bit of a prima dona. It will be fun to see how he reacts to his first thrashing.

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 1:25PM CST I once knew a guy who was diagnosed with narcisstic fibrosis,he got so constipated he didn't feel important anymore and went insane. He is now at the Lincoln Regional Center where he eats bran flake with a prune topping for therapy

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:27PM CST DBP, You play your game, I'll play mine. Potato Patahto.

Posted by: wildlovehog on October 6, 2009 1:29PM CST Ha! Well, my football conversations usually flow just as my bowels do, so I only like talking when I'm regular.

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 1:30PM CST I hope you're right fleaflicker. Freeman never beat Nebraska. Hope the same for Blaine.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:33PM CST Might just be a little difference in Coaching between the 2. Prince was a jerk.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 1:35PM CST BRG.......me too. It feels good to feel good about our program and where it is headed. I'm proud to be a part of Husker Nation and look forward to each game we play this year......it's been awhile!! GBR......Beat Missouri!

Posted by: huskertherapist on October 6, 2009 1:35PM CST Interesting. "The mirror defense" and the name "big red glory" all in one box. And at such an early age. Living in the past while not actually living it forces one to pretend. Your are a very interesting case brg, very interesting. Perhaps Russ has defined you correctly. Wishing you a pleasant life. Again, please consider the following: Individuals with this disorder have special difficulties adjusting to growing old and losing their former ?superiority? The glory days are past. Let it go please. You will feel better.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 1:35PM CST Part of the problem with Josh Freeman is that the team around him stunk. Just look at what K-State has this year. Blaine Gabbert has only 4 games under his belt so saying that he has a lack of commitment is not fair to say. He brought them back from being down against Bowling Green. I am not by any stretch saying that Bowling Green is good but facing his first test of adversity he passed with flying colors. All QB's are prima donna's that is why they play the position! The whole game boils down to home field advantage, turnovers and eliminating stupid penalties. That is one area where Mizzou excels over Nebraska in a big way. My money is still on Mizzou but it should be a great game.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 1:38PM CST huskertherapist.....you are a real buzz kill. Why don't you preach your s*** to somebody who, other than yourself, cares.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 1:41PM CST Fleas That was my impression as well. He seemed worried and tentative when he was scrambling. Big Suh is just the thing.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 1:43PM CST Late in the season last year I remember booger eater getting his behind ate out by one of his receivers. Missouri's implosion was simply fun to watch as their last half of season crumbled. I forcast some of the same this season......if not the Husker game the next two should bring out the true charactor of Missouri........again, it will be fun to watch.

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 1:46PM CST huskertherapist- I find your posts to be both informative and right on the mark. Of course alot of the time I don't understand what your talking about, for what that is worth

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 1:47PM CST You guys are all acting like Blaine Gabbert is horrible! He is the leader in the conference in passing effeciency and #4 in the nation. He must be doing something right. Plus the fact that he has only played in 4 collegiate games. Zac Lee has even more questions surrounding him as in his only road game he was brutal against VA Tech likely costing you any chance of a victory. Both QB's are young and have question marks but I would still take my chance with Gabbert over Lee any day of the week. Now if it were Ganz playing against Mizzou on Thursday I would say that Nebraska is the clear favorite. But that isnt the case.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 1:47PM CST GoM After having been to games in Colombia, I think your over estimating the home field advantage there. It didn't seem to help you last year against O state when your slide started.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on October 6, 2009 1:47PM CST hehe

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:47PM CST I am wondering what "ites" or "Ism" people that like to kill buzzes have. the incessant need to "bring people down" is IMO a real sickness. Perhaps one of your partners could help you. As i said earlier, you couch is empty. Spend more time there and less here.

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 1:49PM CST PT- It is called Earnyism according to my sources

Posted by: bigred-Ore on October 6, 2009 1:49PM CST Afternoon all. allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html Is a link to a website which shows the DSM IV. Then we can all equally spew that psycho babble that the wanna be therapist spits out. For all we know his couch is probably a folding chair that sits in a wy-fi hot spot next to his hot dog stand. "the condiments, relish and onions are in those bins in the front sir" What a joker, no real professional would post that drivel. Now on to the game. Take what they give us but still impose our will on them whenever possible. Most importantly just keep hitting them in the mouth every play until by the fourth quarter they just want to get the thing over with and get into the locker room. That is Husker football. JMO

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 1:50PM CST Happy cows make sweeter milk. Huskers in a close one. We are due.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 1:50PM CST PT We'll put a plaque up if you can shoo off dbp & the shrink.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 1:51PM CST I think homefield advantage against Okie State did help to keep that game close as clearly Mizzou was not playing a good game but still had a chance to win it with under 2 minutes to go. It matters against Nebraska since you guys havent won there in your last 3 trips to Columbia.

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 1:53PM CST PT- I once had a cow with no legs, it was a very lucrative endeavor

Posted by: redcornman on October 6, 2009 1:53PM CST I think most of us on here realize that Therapist/Driveby are one and the same. Maybe LITR could give us a "Survivor" button so we could vote him/her/it off of the island. Schizophrenia is an actual disorder, correct?

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 1:56PM CST GoMiss What was your take on your QB last year? Obviously we're biased, but he didn't come across to well. We saw a guy with skills who seemed to get caught up in himself and not the team and you guys went done the tubes. He seemed to choke. I'd appreciate a MU fan's view. Thanks.

Posted by: no nothing on October 6, 2009 1:58PM CST Our defense must have a defensive line pass rush and must blitz some too. Offensively, as always, red zone, short yardage power rushing game, fullback. Maybe change some things up as much as you can with only one running back. A reverse may help a little and try and not be so predictable. When the QB back there by himself, maybe a draw in a passing situation once in a while. I know that is taking a chance, but that is the offense you have. I am going to be watching game management. I believe that is our biggest weakness in tough games. GBR

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 2:03PM CST Asante is suppose to be good to go. He said that his ankle felt 100% yesterday, the first day it has since he was injured.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 2:04PM CST Gofor2 he was reading his own press clippings too much is what I think. He was great his Jr year and after the Neb game tailed off his senior year. He did bring us 2 big 12 north titles so I have nothing but respect and admiration for him for that. Emotional players like him are sometimes at their best and worst in big games.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 2:05PM CST Thanks BRG. It won't help but i like to "shoot back" every so often. When all is said and done, he/she/it is harmless. A mosquioto without West nile. If this gets him his "jollies" at least he is leaving his wife alone.

Posted by: fleaflicker on October 6, 2009 2:10PM CST Zac Lee is 10 times the QB that Gabbert is. If this were the pros I wouldn't say that. Lee's arm is as strong as Gabbert's and Lee's mobility literally runs circles around Blaine.

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 2:13PM CST cornman Genius idea. With this fancy new format we ought to be able to vote someone off the blog. Make up come criteria and if all agree he's gone. Primarily no redeeming value, just a provocateur, in contrast to a GoM type, he's a die hard fan and just want to talk some fb with passionate fans.

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 2:17PM CST Gofor "Provocateur" Is that anything lie "Irritating SOB"????

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 2:18PM CST GoMizzou Let's look at it this way. Lee had a tough outing against a quailty opponent in VT. He didn't cost us the game. A couple bonehead penalties and a busted coverage did. Gabbert is is about to face his first quaility opponent Thursday night. He has no idea of what's coming at him. He may think that way. So all I got to say is best of luck. The best part of a journey is not where you have been but where you are going. NU is rising out of the ashes. GBR PACT!

Posted by: PT Husker on October 6, 2009 2:19PM CST AYE. (means yes)

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 2:22PM CST PT, yeah, same exact thing.

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 2:24PM CST Charger I am hoping that Gabbert has been watching tape and does know what he is looking at! I would expect Nebraska to get some pressure on him this year since the Huskers have not recorded a sack against Mizzou in the last 2 times they have played. As you said the best part of the journey is getting there. We Mizzou fans have enjoyed the last 7 years under Pinkel getting this far. I agree that it looks like Pelini has the Huskers back on track. It would be good for the big 12 north to actually have some teams that can beat the south.

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 2:26PM CST I don't think they are the same person. Therapist (root word "the" rest of word....) is obviously trying to hide his lack of FB knowledge behind his self preceived intellect. Drive by knows a little more about FB but has no intellect. I don't think voting them off is a good idea. Maybe ernie could just philibuster them?

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 2:26PM CST I think there should be a vote on who the most popular bloggers are rather than who shouldn't be on the blog. I'm sure there would be some surprises. Of course only 1 vote per blogger

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 2:29PM CST jj- I only use the fillerbuster when it comes to small breasted ladies

Posted by: Gofor2 on October 6, 2009 2:29PM CST PT That would be a good poll for a new forum. GoM Have a good time at the game and a safe trip. though I hope you loose. Now's the time to bring back some civility, you seem like a good guy and the vast majority of folks on here are very good folks. We need to embrace the experience and leave the hatred out, it's pretty easy, so give every Husker you see at the game a big hug and wish them well. I'll do the same. Later

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 2:31PM CST VT is what? number 5? And we outplayed them for 58 minutes. Then they turn around and thumped Miami who turned around and beat a Bradfordless OK. I think we have played somebody, and played them pretty well. If we had won the VT game like we should have we would be top 10 right now.

Posted by: Crazy Jack on October 6, 2009 2:33PM CST I disagree with some points Sip. MU's Linebacker Weatherspoon is a key. If he is aggressive and they bring the blitz our tightends have to be open up short over the middle. Helu has gained 10 to 15 lbs he is more like 225 now. The game will be won or lost on the O&D lines. If we play the possession game we will loose. We have to score every time we get the ball, and no I don't mean field goals. We need to jump out early and stay there. Gabbert is not that fast, he will run for the sidelines if Suh makes his presence felt. The D ends have to be on their horses all night long every play. Painfully it comes down to B12 officiating will they call MU for holding? What will constitute ruffing the passer?

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 2:34PM CST jj- Not to mention ARK State dam near beat Iowa, who beat Penn State who beat?

Posted by: jjdoozer on October 6, 2009 2:37PM CST Ha ha, At least we didn't almost get beat by Bowling f-ing Green.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on October 6, 2009 2:40PM CST MU's receivers are big and really go after the ball. If Gab is off a bit then it should not be a contest but if he keeps throwing the ball up and their recievers catch everything, then it will be closer thnan I would like it to be. Still a victory for the Huskers though.

Posted by: earniechambers on October 6, 2009 2:44PM CST Is Missouri's QB any relation to Rev. Jimmy Gabbert who was caught in that sex scandal a few years back?

Posted by: Huskerzone on October 6, 2009 2:52PM CST Crazy Jack: Where do you get the idea that Gabbert is not fast? He ran a 4.65 as a senior in high school. Lee ran a 4.6, just a sliver of a difference. 4.65 is a legitimate speed and almost freakish at Gabbert's size. But, is he elusive? Can he avoid a rush that is coming right at him?

Posted by: GoMizzou on October 6, 2009 3:00PM CST So far the rushing numbers are similar for both QB's Lee has 20 attempts for 61 yards and 0 TD. Gabbert has 29 attempts for 80 yards and 2 TD.

Posted by: charger on October 6, 2009 3:04PM CST Actally Zac runs a 4.5 according to his recruiting listing on Husker Pedia

Posted by: Deez Nutz on October 6, 2009 3:53PM CST Columbia is full of STD's...it's science.

Posted by: Wrestler on October 6, 2009 4:27PM CST Sip you nailed it can't agree with you more about your 3 key areas. Running game allows a couple of things one is clock mgmt. keeping Mizzou's O less touches and our D more rest. Secondly it sets up the pass taking some pressure off of Lee and allowing him to find his comfort zone! GBR! Zhou Da Hong! A great game for TV audiences NU 38 Mizzou 27

Posted by: Wrestler on October 6, 2009 4:30PM CST Have a good time at the game and a safe trip. though I hope you loose. Now's the time to bring back some civility, you seem like a good guy and the vast majority of folks on here are very good folks. We need to embrace the experience and leave the hatred out, it's pretty easy, so give every Husker you see at the game a big hug and wish them well. I'll do the same. Class as usual well stated GoFor2!

Posted by: Wrestler on October 6, 2009 4:34PM CST GoMizzou this year outside of UT, south is looking as strong if not stronger than south, so I think if it is NU which I hope or whomever, can't forget KU? A UT upset in Big 12 Championship is doable? GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: Wrestler on October 6, 2009 4:35PM CST Sorry didn't edit north I meant is looking stronger overall than south exception UT?

Posted by: Wrestler on October 6, 2009 4:39PM CST Earnie I like your posts! who beat who beat and finally NU who beat the Four Horsemen, I learned that from PT, Husker history teacher, on the blog! GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: Busiekcreek on October 6, 2009 4:47PM CST Ernie Chambers your posts are priceless.

Posted by: WyHuskerFan on October 6, 2009 5:34PM CST GoMizzou, I agree with much of your analysis. I think the games comes down to your O line protecting Gabbert and the NU offense finishing in the redzone. Whichever team handles those chores best will likely win the game.