Life in the Red Group

Posted by: SuperHusker17 on July 13, 2010 2:45PM CST This ain't intramurals brotha...

Posted by: Blackshirtsdef on July 13, 2010 3:00PM CST "I believe in me...." speaks volumes I'm more of a "glass too big" kind of guy myself....sub-500, troubles not the word...I'm gonna have to go with "exploring more options" I actually wanna watch them play Georgia. Should be a descent game...underated vs overrated.......come on August! GBR!

Posted by: CBHusker on July 13, 2010 3:03PM CST Yea, I'll miss it like I'd miss a kindergartner trying to kneecap me with a ball peen hammer. The attitude of Colorado fans was shown for what it was when they had a whole section of the stadium ejected for throwing beer bottles and garbage on the field. That kind of rivalry I can live without.

Posted by: Mentally Red on July 13, 2010 3:08PM CST No, I won't miss it. They have never been a big-time program, so there is nothing to gain by playing them. If we beat them, the rest of the country yawns. If they beat us, the rest of the country views it as confirmation of our decline. And their fans suck...bigtime. When I lived in Colorado, I never went to a game in Boulder because I just didn't want to deal with all the negativity that is in the air there; it takes all the fun out of the game.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 3:22PM CST Yes, I will miss the game. the sidline antics of a few, particularly students, have ruined it especially out there. But I am gonna miss the whole Big 12 with the exception of Texas. Oh, I will also get over it.

Posted by: Hypno Potomus on July 13, 2010 3:25PM CST no

Posted by: Hypno Potomus on July 13, 2010 3:27PM CST Howdy PT. How is the day treating you?

Posted by: TheOneAndOnly on July 13, 2010 3:34PM CST Not only no but HELL NO.

Posted by: 3&OUT on July 13, 2010 3:38PM CST I will only miss it because, living in Colorado for nearly 30-years I like giving it to my friends (the few that are Buffs fans) when we win. I don't know what I will do without all of the great Husker jokes that I had to put up with even from the news anchors and radio personalities up and down the front range. The local newspaper would print all of the Big 12 highlights except for the NU games, unless of course we lost or someone was arrested. It brings a tear to my eye when I think of all the great times I had in Boulder, repairing slit tires and getting beer poured on me by the student section. Aaah, those were the days. In retrospect, what the H#*% was I thinking. See ya PUFFS!

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 3:46PM CST Howdy Hypno. AC is a good thing. 99 degrees outside right now.

Posted by: red_dude on July 13, 2010 3:49PM CST In a word NO! I had the pleasure of going to a game in Boulder one year, while I did not get a cup of urine dumped on me like my father did many years ago, I have never been treated so poorly as a visitor anywhere, except Arizona State in 1996, those people were the worst ever.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on July 13, 2010 3:50PM CST That cu game is always kinda a pain in the arse. Yeah... I'll miss it a little.

Posted by: Husker4Life on July 13, 2010 3:57PM CST I won't miss it at all because it is not a rivalry. Isn't a rivalry a game where no matter what the record either team has a chance to win? Check out the series numbers. CU doesn't have much of a chance anymore.

Posted by: RedAether on July 13, 2010 3:59PM CST The best part of the cu game was eating leftover cold turkey sandwiches. So long as the B10 gives us a day-after-thanksgiving game with anyone I wont bat an eye. If Iowa fills that slot, then we have had a major upgrade for that weekend. That said, I'm with Step, I'll miss it a little. CU was a good team to hate.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 4:08PM CST Maybe we could schedule them. Call it the "We are smarter than you are Bowl"

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 4:09PM CST Or the "Texas don't own me bowl".

Posted by: RedAether on July 13, 2010 4:09PM CST And I think BC is right, it WAS a rivalry game. You don't have to respect your opponent for them to be a rival. I remember at least once their fans pulled out hammers to symbolize sealing our coffin on a season without a bowl. So yeah, the game was occasionally important and usually competitive. Will i miss Boulder? NO! Are we losing a highly entertaining game? Sure.

Posted by: Viking Husker on July 13, 2010 4:18PM CST CU "replaced" OU. Not a fair trade off, IMO. You know who else I won't miss? Mizzery. Man those guys suck. You've been good for like half a decade. Where does the arrogance come from? In fact, OU is the only game I'll miss.

Posted by: STLHusker on July 13, 2010 4:18PM CST Won't miss it a bit...CU will always be sCUm.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 4:25PM CST I will miss the game, just because they are our neighbor. Won't miss some of the fans and students. I have had some bad experiences while in Boulder, thought it is one of the most beautiful settings in all of college football. But, you know what, we will have new rivalries to build, new experiences, it's going to be a fun ride beginning in 2011. I do think from top to bottom the Big team maybe a better league that the old Big 12. We are going to have earn respect and earn our way.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 4:26PM CST the game on the field was played with passion by both sides on most occasions. Hard hitting and great effort. The fans ruined it. And they were few but mighty. But I think the players and coaches enjoyed it. At least it appeared so. At least Suh enjoyed his stiff arm.

Posted by: TommyOC on July 13, 2010 4:26PM CST I'll miss hating those beafalo boneheads, but we had some good games with them. They fall into the same catagory as the rest of the Big12 for me, gald to see them in the rear view mirror, but we have history and of course that means something. I can't say I'll miss the annual Thanksgiving weekend game with CU, because we're gonna end up there with Iowa or Penn State, and to me that's a step up for a Thanksgiving weekend and I think it will bring much bigger national interest. I'll miss all the little munchie and reefer references for every thing Colorado did, good or bad. I do have to agree with Hawkins, he should have never recruited his kid to play for him there....as that was a load on him from the start and just one more thing he could have done without. I don't see Hawkins lasting much long if he doesn't deliver some serious results. He's a funny dude, but he's trying to do things better and cleaner for CU and that ain't all bad. In the end, the entire Big12 can go suck it! I'm glad we're leaving them all behind. I do at least respect Colorado for being independent of texass. Moving on is good for them....and they don't have to feel a loss of selfrespect like the other conference clones who will continue to suck shamelessly on the tits of texass and tell those utters are all dried up. They really do all deserve each other.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 4:33PM CST I think Hawkins is a good coach. Having said that, he tried to bring his Boise State philosophy to the Big 12 and recruited like he did in Boise. And that style, while it might be successful for one game, does not work for for a full big 12 season. Different Leagues different style. Just like Bo is going to have to adjust to the Big 10's style of play, and will have to adjust his recruiting.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 4:37PM CST Plus, the media seems to love him. He does give good sound bites.

Posted by: Fitzy on July 13, 2010 4:59PM CST No - With the prospect of getting to play Iowa every year potentially and perhaps Wisconsin or etc. in the Big Ten, I am not worried about losing the Buffs game. I am WAY more excited for a potential rivalry with Iowa or Penn State ! Either of those two teams would be a lot more fun to match up with every season, I believe. Bring the Pain- GBR

Posted by: N_trepid on July 13, 2010 5:20PM CST I'll never forget all of the drunken middle-aged Colorado fans throwing bottles at me and challenging me (then 13 years old) to a fist fight, all for standing up and cheering a 50-yard Husker touchdown. Utterly pathological. No, I won't miss anything about the miserable wretches who inhabit Colorado.

Posted by: Sam G. on July 13, 2010 5:34PM CST Yes, I will miss them. But that's mostly because I live in Colorado. It's been fun watching NU beat the Buffs the past few years. That 63-16 game, or whatever it was, was one of the most painful games I can remember ever watching. Brutal!

Posted by: Wrestler on July 13, 2010 5:43PM CST CU, well I concur with IH, the setting in Boulder for a FB game is fantastic! And Ralphie the mascot is one of a kind! And the campus with the flatirons in the background is breathtaking to see! So all the peripheral aspects to the games in Boulder are filled with sensations of delight. And then there's the fans, moreso the students but not entirely, as some of these outrageous behaviors of students, are manifested in the adults that attend the games also! We all grow up but some remain the same? I lived and coached in the Springs for a few years at OTC and never missed a NU or OU game in Boulder, and felt the animosity of a segment of fans for both Big Reds and their fan base. I think it was a bit more intense for NU because of Coach Bill McCartney years and following? But very distasteful to both sets of fans! Of course I never saw the behavior to me up close, no always a distance away the scarcastic quips and profane slurs? And that was the most civil behaviors demonstrated? I do not want to indict their whole fan base, as I know some students of CU, from other locations than Boulder, that were kind and considerate people? But CU attracts a higher percentage of out of state students, as for its setting, and allure of great recreational activities and soforth. But the cost is higher for out of state as well, which brings in kids of material substance and backgrounds, and this alot of times, isn't your respectful types either? So Boulder, has the makings of a fantastic experience of taking in a college FB game, but gets tainted by behaviors of some, in very bizarre ways? Cest La Vie? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! As for their coach seems nice enough guy, but he found out, different when at Boise State, you play a few select games, instead of a conference of talent, that can make you have to be consistent in your play, week in and week out for success? Analogy coming, as in wrestling, a undefeated wrestler out of Big Eight or Big 10, garners my attention a whole lot more, knowing their competiton, than a wrestler with same record, from another conference?

Posted by: Egregious Error on July 13, 2010 5:48PM CST No. No class. No history. No respect. No interest. And in case you missed it, No.

Posted by: N_trepid on July 13, 2010 5:59PM CST What Egregious Error said. Twice. Well done.

Posted by: Codger on July 13, 2010 6:08PM CST I won't miss playing them, as a Husker fan. Dan Hawkins is a nice guy. Colorado, not so. I am not thrilled to see Colorado moving my direction. Nebraska would have been better....isn't Nebraska kind of on the west coast?

Posted by: Redrickman on July 13, 2010 6:14PM CST It rubbed me wrong when Mac injected pure hatered into the team towards the huskers.

Posted by: TomOs on July 13, 2010 6:35PM CST I have only been to one CU game at Boulder, last year.. never had any problems.. just my case.. know many have.. in fact went to a bar at halftime.. all college kids and not a bad word was spoken.. just my experience.. Yes will miss the game .. had many memories of old times,our come backs and such, the Anderson boys, Hale Irwin of CU... remember the better days perhaps..

Posted by: TomOs on July 13, 2010 6:38PM CST Anyway the rite of Summer is about to be on.. The All-Star game..

Posted by: Blackshirtsdef on July 13, 2010 6:44PM CST Sam G....I dont think I'll ever forget that game either....how many rushing yards were aloud...ridiculous! I guess last years game really makes up for that debacle! GBR!!

Posted by: Bornhusker on July 13, 2010 6:47PM CST No.

Posted by: huskersincedevaney on July 13, 2010 6:56PM CST I'll miss all the dumb things coach Hawk says and does like "10 wins and no excuses" and then finishes with 3 wins and then another classic was when he first got to CU, he was asked about how long he thought the transition would take and he famously said "we ain't got time for a transition, we gotta start winnin right away and then he loses too Montana State right away, HAR< HAR HAR...Hawk is a riot.

Posted by: Big Red in Big D 007 on July 13, 2010 6:57PM CST Freinds, remember it is just football. Being a single dad, it is just nice to have my kids. It's usually only a certian few that screw it up for the rest of us. Fans are fans, be passionate, not abusive. We are Nebraska, Be proud.

Posted by: Exiled_in_VT on July 13, 2010 7:02PM CST Out of all the Big XII North teams, the game with CU is the one I'll miss the least.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 13, 2010 7:11PM CST I would rather play Colorado than Iowa, for the reason that at least the Buffs have a real buffalo, native to that state, as their logo. They always put up a battle, but usually lost, even though in 1990 they shared the NC. On the other hand, Iowa took a native American character from the book "The Last of the Mohicans" as their nickname. This is a travesty of the first order. The Mahicans (also Mohicans) are an Eastern Algonquian Native American tribe, originally settling in the Hudson River Valley around Albany, NY. What right does Iowa have to that name? Iowa is not going to be a rivalry for Nebraska, but rather another version of the Sun Belt Kid. Last times we played them it was NU 42-Iowa 7 in 1999 and NU 42-Iowa 13 in 2000. We won in 1982 42-7 and lost in 1981 7-10. The thought of playing them yearly is rather sickening, even though they have improved under Coach Ferentz in the past decade.

Posted by: Exiled_in_VT on July 13, 2010 7:28PM CST Ray, I think Iowa's hawkeye has more to do with Chief Black Hawk, who fought and died in Iowa, than Natty Bumppo. But, the nickname hawkeye does owe its popularity to the Leatherstocking tales. Also, the Mohicans were not just in upstate NY. They had a tribe in Connecticut as well (sometimes spelled Mohegan). Samson Occum was one. They now operated Mohegan Sun Casino in Connecticut. Iowa will be a great rival. Like Bo Pelini, Kirk Ferentz doesn't always get the highest rated recruiting classes, but he is an excellent coach and gets many, many unheralded recruits on the OL and DL to the NFL. At one time he had a huge percentage of 4-year players going on to the NFL.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 7:29PM CST In a word...NO! Well, maybe a little. I really believe the only reason I would miss the 'Black Friday' game is because it means the Huskers are on national television, which means I get to see the game. That I will miss...hopefully we are able to maintain some type of yearly game on that day. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 7:32PM CST So, anyone watching the MLB All-Star game?

Posted by: throw46 on July 13, 2010 7:38PM CST Unsportsmanlike Conduct saying that Lee's arm is not ready???? http://1620thezone.com/content_page.php?contentType=34&contentId=124543

Posted by: Trashman on July 13, 2010 7:41PM CST Never felt like a rivalry game to me. Usually competitive, but not a rivalry. Doesn't even hold a candle to the OU/NU days.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 7:44PM CST I agree with that assessment Trash. 'Absolutely' no comparison to the NU/OU annual battle.

Posted by: throw46 on July 13, 2010 7:48PM CST Whoops sorry, bad link... "Two Man Battle Kevin and Mike'l talk about the battle for quarterback at Nebraska and a little non-conference talk as well" Right hand side.... Unsportsmanlike conduct Podcasts http://1620thezone.com/

Posted by: DebTu on July 13, 2010 7:49PM CST No. Always a let down to be stuck with them at the end of the season.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 7:49PM CST Throw, can't get it to load. Summarize.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 7:53PM CST PT, you are already getting 'summerized' with your 99 degree temp today!

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 7:56PM CST Howdy Deb TuTu. I can say that I too felt that way more often than not. I think it had more to do the 'contender' or 'pretender' concept for me.

Posted by: throw46 on July 13, 2010 8:20PM CST PT....They say it's a two man race between T-mart and Green. That Lee's arm is not responding. WTH?????

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:31PM CST Someone has said about 2 weeks ago, don' know who, on the LiTR said that Lee was doing well. So who is right here?

Posted by: boom.roasted on July 13, 2010 8:32PM CST I will only miss this game if we get stuck playing Minnesota or Indiana the day after Thanksgiving in the Big 10. If we're playing Iowa or Wisconsin or Penn State or (fingers crossed) Notre Dame, not gonna miss it.

Posted by: RedAether on July 13, 2010 8:34PM CST "The University of Iowa borrowed its athletic nickname from the state of Iowa many years ago. The name Hawkeye was originally applied to a hero in a fictional novel, The Last of the Mohicans, written by James Fenimore Cooper. Author Cooper had the Delaware Indians bestow the name on a white scout who lived and hunted with them. In 1838, 12 years after the book was published, people in the territory of Iowa acquired the nickname, chiefly through the efforts of Judge David Rorer of Burlington and James G. Edwards of Fort Madison. Edwards, editor of the Fort Madison Patriot, moved his newspaper to Burlington in 1843 and renamed it the Burlington Hawkeye. The two men continued their campaign to popularize the name and were rewarded when territorial officials gave it their formal approval." -- Direct quote from the Iowa Official Athletic Site. If anything the state should have looked harder for a nickname then a suggestion from a Journalist trying to help popularize his paper. However once the name gained popularity I dont see any problems with the State University adopting the nickname for their athletics.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 8:35PM CST I guess we'll have to wait for Gofor to arrive to give us some idea as to why his arm would not be responding. If I were to speculate, which I don't usually like to do, I might think there could possibly be some nerve damage as a result of the surgery. Of course, more speculation here, usually this kind of thing depicts someone who tried to do too much too soon. I seem to be speculating alot for someone who does not like to speculate...hmmm.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:37PM CST We will know when fall practice begins. Too many are leaving Spano's name out. I don't know anything about his skills, but that young man has persevered through some very bad knee injuries. He is gritty for sure. He may surprise.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 8:38PM CST Howdy I/H! I am assuming you 'gave 'em hell' today?

Posted by: boom.roasted on July 13, 2010 8:38PM CST Yeah... Just listened to Unsportsmanlike Conduct about the QB battle... They don't exactly sound solid on their research... Just to my ears. But we'll see...

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:40PM CST GBR - LOL. What's that old Kenny Rogers song when he was with the First Edition, something like, "I stepped out to see what condition my condition was in."

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 8:41PM CST Boom...it would be awesome to have an annual 'Black Friday' game against one of those four.

Posted by: boom.roasted on July 13, 2010 8:42PM CST GBR in Texas, Isn't "Black Friday" how CU fans refer to 62-36? I don't think we want to call it "Black Friday," but I might be wrong...

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 8:43PM CST Trying to watch the All star game. Pitching and defense so far.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:43PM CST Well actually no GBR, they rescheduled until tomorrow. So maybe I can do that then.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:45PM CST I have been switching back and forth from the All Star game and our City Council meeting. Doesn't that sound exiting?

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 8:49PM CST When I think about young players playing ahead of veterens I start to think, surly experience will win. Then I remember my daughters volleyball coach telling his older players. "keep working. My job is to recruit people to take your place." Maybe this will happen in the QB race.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 13, 2010 8:50PM CST IH, are you driving back and forth or are your treatments in GI?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 8:52PM CST I/H...are you sure you can handle all that excitement? Oh yeah, tomorrow...'give 'em hell I/H!' I think John Wayne said that a time or two. btw, that does sound 'exiting', or at least that's what I'd be doing. I knew what you meant.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 8:56PM CST I get you on the Black Friday thing boom. I just always seem to use that term because I seem to have to go out shopping well before the butt crack of dawn.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 8:57PM CST My Sister told me a good joke, so I will share to lighten things up. A pastor in a church was giving a sermon about forgiving your enemies. He then ask the congregation if anyone has enemies. About 80% of the people stood up. He said come on now every one has a enemy, tell the truth. Now I ask again who has a enemy? All the people stood up except ad 98 year old woman. The pastor said, "You mean to tell me that you don't have any enemies." She answered with a loud "No." The pastor asked her to come down to the front and tell her amazing story about having no enemies. She walked down, turned and faced the congregation and begin, "I outlived all the jerks."

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 9:01PM CST Pt - what is taking place tomorrow is that I will meet with the Doctors and together we will discuss what needs to be done, what kind of treatment, for how long and where. The fact that I will be meeting with the Radiation people gives me lots of information. I will know all the details tomorrow and will let you guys know.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 9:03PM CST But I am guessing treatments will be done in Omaha. So yes, I will probably be going back and forth quite often.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:06PM CST That one's a classic I/H.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:10PM CST Hello Husker Fans. Any news about anything having to do with the team? Practices? Zac's arm? Ricky. Henry?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:10PM CST You gonna fire up the Lear Jet for those trips I/H?

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 13, 2010 9:13PM CST I/H - safe travels to and from Omaha. I hope you will be able to feel the positive energy directed your way as you travel past Lincoln.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 9:15PM CST A Lear Jet? Now that would be the way to go, even though it's only 150 miles away. Instead I will have to settle riding in the VA Bus, which is not always a smooth ride. But it's a courtesy of the VA at no charge, so it's they way to go.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:16PM CST Howdy BR...the only news I know of is that the majority of the fans of the team are going stir crazy waiting for August to get here. Myself...we start our football with coaches in '4' days!

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 9:17PM CST OTB, I am feeling lots of positive energy already.

Posted by: throw46 on July 13, 2010 9:18PM CST Islander...all the best on your bus trip, may they always be round trips.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:20PM CST That will make the time pass GBR.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 13, 2010 9:21PM CST As for Big Hawk's famed "10 wins and no excuses": As much as I busted Hawk last year, I now realize that he never explicitly set an expiration on that guarantee. Upon further inspection, I'm guessing the "10 wins and no excuses" refers to getting Hawk Jr. 10 wins before he graduates.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 13, 2010 9:23PM CST Well, I am going to check out for the night, I go a long day ahead of me tomorrow. Go Big Red.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:26PM CST I/H, my understanding is that the Omaha VA facility is a very good facility. I have been told that it is one of the better VA facilities in the country. I imagine you can get a few chorus' of '99 bottles' in between GI and Omaha.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:28PM CST Night I/H, hope all goes well tomorrow.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:28PM CST I fast forwarded through the VT home game from a couple of years ago today. I am very confident that what we will see this year is going to be drastically ahead of what we had then. I just can't wait to watch these guys play.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:33PM CST Actually BR, once we get started I kind of get 'blacked out' on what goes on prior to the start of the season. Actually, our coaches convention starts Sunday in San Antonio. If you can, imagine over 12,000 coaches in the same facility.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:39PM CST BR, I'm with you on that. The added yrs of experience and maturity with a much better understanding of game day preparation to go along with that. Should be very exciting to see.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:43PM CST That is a lot of people BGR. Yes, the system should come second nature to most of the guys now. I suspect that offense will have a few new wrinkles of some kind but nothing that they can't pick up and execute quickly. This is going to be an exciting year.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:46PM CST Can you image what this year will be like if we have a better than average offense? I love watching the games where a lot of players get to see the field. I am guessing that there is going to be some pretty intense competition going on throughout the season. Just like it used to be.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:48PM CST GBR, Is your son a senior this year and does he play football?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 13, 2010 9:49PM CST It appears that I must relinquish the laptop. The new NCAA Football 11 came out today...my boys have work to do to get their teams in order. Kind of funny in that when they want to win when they play against their older brother, or against their friends, they 'always' play with...Nebraska. I asked the middle son why and he said, 'they've had the best defense in this game for last couple years. He was working on his Nebraska team earlier, the younger son needs the laptop because the middle son is on the desktop and has a huge head start on him. I'm all for fairness. See everybody tomorrow.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 9:55PM CST Later GBR.

Posted by: BleedingRed on July 13, 2010 10:00PM CST I just saw that Michael Rose gave his verbal on the 5th of July. I almost went to see him play last year but could not make the game. I will make sure that I go watch him at least once this year. I think that he may be a good one. If I recall correctly he plays lights out and covers the field really well.

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 13, 2010 10:38PM CST Dan Hawkins is short, dumb, no leadership ability callahan.

Posted by: Big Red77845 on July 13, 2010 11:11PM CST I'd like to see them play Purdue or Northwestern on Thanksgiving rather than the day after.

Posted by: flimflamfan on July 13, 2010 11:18PM CST No.

Posted by: MTHusker88 on July 14, 2010 12:52AM CST Our chance at landing Aaron Green actually lies in the hands of Malcolm Brown who the Longhorns are currently pursuing but i believe there is a solid chance Brown will go to Bama' and if he does consider Green a Longhorn..Hope Brown likes Burnt Orange

Posted by: UKHusker on July 14, 2010 1:37AM CST I am not going to miss this game at all. We lost our great rival when the Texas teams joined the conference and we lost the OU game. Once we start Big10 conference play, I think a lot of us are going to forget all about our old "rivals". Visit Boulder on your way to the slopes, and enjoy the great games coming our way after this season. GBR!!!!

Posted by: Guido on July 14, 2010 4:30AM CST 100 BAM! I can see Hawkins being gone by the time that CU joins the PAC 10. It would be the perfect time for them to have a fresh start.

Posted by: Inbread on July 14, 2010 6:32AM CST YES I will miss playing CU after Thanksgiving. IT has (almost) always been a competitive match-up and good game to watch while you are feeling the indigestion and it works really well at stopping all the familial arguments for 3 hours. I will NOT miss thier fans (the uber crappy ones) I will not miss their arrogance. I am glad I will never "have" to go to Boulder for a game again. That scarred me for life. Worst fan behavior I have ever seen in my life. And I have seen OU/TX fans at each other before. They are historically terrible, and they dont even compare to sCUm. But yeah, that game on the TV, and the field, I will truly miss. It was a sure thing for TV and one helluva game.

Posted by: shotbuck on July 14, 2010 7:42AM CST Yes, I will miss the game. After the forming of the LIttle 12 and no more Thanksgiving OK game, CO took its spot. Boulder has always been a wee bit different when attending games there. Best of luck to CO in the Pac 10

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 8:10AM CST I will miss the annual tussle with CU, just like I'm going to miss the annual games with ALL of our Big 8 brothers.

Posted by: SuperHusker17 on July 14, 2010 8:14AM CST I'll agree with Inbread and some others, CU always made sure to put up a fight for us. Never made it to a game out to Boulder but heard plenty of stories. I know we have some bad fans too and as much as I hate to say it, I think part of my generation is to blame for NU having less and less of that "Greatest Fans in College Football" title. I think most are still respectful but when they go and get all liquored up before a game they get all wrapped up in what's going on and don't think. Hopefully moving to a conference with a little less hostility towards teams can help that. I just know that if you're going to talk, you better hope your team can back it up and CU didn't help out their fans all that much. They've had their seasons but NU has had their number. Why we got so much hostility from them I'm not truly sure but I find little for them to be able to compare themselves with us in most any category.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 8:29AM CST Super - I've always thought the hostility from CU fans towards us was a direct result of McCarthy making NU their "red letter rival". The concept was good - CU cannot be considered a top flite program until they can stand toe to toe with, and beat, Nebraska - however where they went astray was making that the be all, end all for their season. If they didn't beat NU, their season was a failure. When you put that kind of pressure on a game it is not going to bring out the best in fans.

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 8:46AM CST I will miss that game. Certainly some buff fans are aholies. Certainly some corn fans are aholies. Regardless of the blowouts, there were ten seasons or so where the buffs beat a highly ranked corn team and pretty much ruined the season. I guess that is where all the bitterness from corn fans toward buff fans comes from. It is true that Colorado is the 24th ranked academic institution in the US and Nebraska is somewhere north of 90 so you are right super there is not much to compare. On another subject, I am hoping all the rumors on the Arm of Lee are not true. This would mean that Bo scaraficed this young kids future only to win. If that is the case, it is a disgrace.

Posted by: TomOs on July 14, 2010 8:48AM CST I think Super .. some of the problems started with McCartney, coach.. making us their designated rival.. red lettering the day on the calendar we played, before the season started.. sometime in the 90's.. if they won that game, against us, they had a succesful season..

Posted by: SuperHusker17 on July 14, 2010 9:22AM CST Point taken, it's been a manufactured rivalry and maybe that's why each team's fans get hostile towards each other. Fans aren't going to take it very well if they're somewhat told "ok, here, now you're rivals" DBP, I was thinking more on the football side but you are correct, CU is the better academic school. I truly don't know enough about CU academically, are they research based like NU seems to be? I guess I'm just happy that our 90 something was good enough to get into the Big 10 which has a high standard for academics. Football wise, I would have to say that 10 seasons probably isn't enough to put a rivalry stamp on the game. I guess if the rumors are true about Lee then it's a good thing we have Eric Martin to the rescue this season.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 9:30AM CST Found this out on the interwebs regarding conference realignment. I know that is soooo last month, but I think it sums things up pretty good: "The irony of the conference realignment is the following: The Big 12 can't play defense (loses two teams), the Pac-10 is wild and crazy (tried for a royal coup), the Big Ten is slow (took six months to...complete the acquisition of one team), the SEC only cares about itself (didn't really care if it got a team or not) and the Big East and ACC were not even present in national discussion. Will this ever change?"

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 9:34AM CST So LITR writers..... Any update on the Arm of the General? gbr

Posted by: charger on July 14, 2010 9:39AM CST DBP Sip was talking about the General last night & I kinda of missed some of it. So I posted a request on the home page. Don't know if we will get any more info. But I don't think the is getting along so good.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 9:55AM CST Driveby says: "Regardless of the blowouts, there were ten seasons or so where the buffs beat a highly ranked corn team and pretty much ruined the season. I guess that is where all the bitterness from corn fans toward buff fans comes from." --------------------------------------- I disagree. Here are the 7 losses to CU (and the one tie) since 1968: 1986: First loss to CU in 18 years, and 2nd in 24 years. A loss to OU keeps NU from the Orange, but NU still finishes 10-2 and plays in the Sugar. Season not ruined by CU loss. 1989: A 27-21 loss by #3 NU to the #2 Buffs is NU's only regular season loss, and send NU to the Fiesta. I'll concede that this loss had a negative impact on NU's season. 1990: Again, the CU loss was followed by a loss to OU (which still mattered much more back than). Seeing as how this was CU's NC year, there shouldn't be too much shame in losing to the eventual champs. Moderate impact to season. 1991: The tie in Boulder as the snowballs (and other projectiles) rained down. NU still went to the Orange and played #1 Miami. Season not ruined. 2001: 62-36. Seeing as how we made it in through the BCS back door to the Rose Bowl and a shot at the NC, this game did not ruin the season (although it definitely ruined my day). 2002: In a season where NU finished 7-7 with a trip to Shreveport, it's really tough to point to any game as the one that "ruined the season" although the blowouts at Penn State and KSU come to mind. Put it another way, if NU beat CU, how would the season had been improved? We go to the Texas Bowl in Houston? 2004: The loss to CU (along with five other losses) breaks NU's storied bowl streak. Yeah, this one hurt. Damn you Callahan! 2007: Yes, this loss (along with 6 other losses) broke the new NU bowl streak at 1. However, giving up 65 to CU was the final nail in Callahan's coffin and led us to the Bo Pelini era. That's a win in my book. Final tally: 42 years: 34 wins, 7 losses, 1 tie. Three of those losses "ruined" the season.

Posted by: PlyNeb on July 14, 2010 10:07AM CST DBP If Zach Lee's arm deteriorated after his injury in the Arkansas State game, maybe Pelini made the wrong call in continuing to play him. I sort of think that it was the type of surgery involved, and that no surgery is successful 100% of the time. If Lee is not the starter, I am very apprehensive about the season. While Green and Martinez might make some spectacular plays, they are also likely to make some bonehead plays. I might feel more comfortable with LaTravis.

Posted by: Trashman on July 14, 2010 10:10AM CST OTB Thanks for reiterating what was written to DBP several weeks ago when he posted the same thing. I believe I said 3 losses were considered "bad" as well. But it could be argued it was only 2. Ironically, your 2002 and 2007 synopsis are both almost identical to what I wrote with the no bowl improvement in 02' and the "doing us a favor of removal of the coaches " in 07'. However, he will not care and argue the losses were very big to us.....

Posted by: Trashman on July 14, 2010 10:13AM CST Ply And Lee's play was never boneheaded...... Of course, that's because he was injured and the OL was the real boneheads.... Sheesh to boneheads.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 10:35AM CST And strangely, there is little mention of the five games from 1992 - 1996 where CU came into the NU game with an average ranking of 8th (8th, 20th, 2nd, 7th, 5th), but lost all five games by a combined score of 158 - 64. I wonder how many of those losses ruined CU's season?

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 10:53AM CST trash and otb. You need to look at the details. at least 5 times the corn was undefeated and ranked 3rd or higher. The loss to the buffs ended the NC charge. And after all that is what the corn is focused on. The buffs just trying to win a game period. Just a matter of perspective I guess. For me it was bitter sweet. The corn charging for a NC and get upset by the buffs. Okay for the buffs, but not a happy camper for the corn fan in me.

Posted by: PlyNeb on July 14, 2010 10:53AM CST Trash Even Brett Favre makes boneheaded plays (sometimes).

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 11:00AM CST Trash - I must have missed that thread, so take my word that I wasn't attempting to plagiarize you. I agree that 3 losses is an overstatement. 1989 qualifies. 2004 does, but only in that it was the 6th loss. (The losses to Tech and OU hurt much, much more). If we would have not played like idiots in the losses to So Miss and ISU, a loss to CU would have been inconsequential. "However, he [Driveby] will not care and argue the losses were very big to us....." I think that quote is a pretty good window into the NU-CU "rivalry". It mattered SO much more to them than it did to us to where they believe every loss against us (all seven of 'em in the last 40+ years) had dramatic, titanic, death-knell impact, when most were just a small drop in the ocean.

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Posted by: Exiled_in_VT on July 14, 2010 11:07AM CST OTB, For comparison sake, in the same time frame (since 1968) here are our records against CU and Iowa State: CU 34-7-1 ISU 35-6-1 Pretty identical...and I think some of the ISU losses have hurt pretty bad...like '92 (Tommie's only conference loss), '04, and stinking '09.

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 11:15AM CST Hey otb when the corn loses to the buffs and are undefeated prior to that, it does not matter even if the corn loses once more.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 14, 2010 11:15AM CST So lots of buzz about Lee's elbow. Evidently there was talk of it on the zone as well as sports nightly. Does anyone KNOW anything.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on July 14, 2010 11:21AM CST I do. The General's arm is so far behind schedule.... that they are thinking an amputation is the only way to go.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on July 14, 2010 11:26AM CST Gofor2 sent me an email about The General's arm. Here it is. "Dear The StephRaZor, I love you lots. You are my hero. About Lee's arm... I have received info that Lee had a terrible case of Hot Dog Fingers as a child. Seems it has finally gripped him with quickly spreading death of the tissue in his elbow. All we can do is pray. Mighty Love, Gofor2" So.... there you have it. A clear medical review of the situation. It doesn't look good.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 11:33AM CST Driveby, Let's take yet another look at NU's record and AP ranking going into those 7 losses (and the one tie): 1986: 6-0, 3rd. Finished 5th. Again, it was the loss to OU that kept NU from the Orange Bowl, which after the NC was the secondary goal in the 80s and 90s. 1989: 8-0, 3rd. Finished 11th after a loss to FSU in the bowl. It should be noted that this is not an upset (CU was #2 going into the game). 1990: 8-0, 3rd. Finished 24th (and lost to the co-NC's Georgia Tech in the bowl) 1991: (Tied) 6-1, 9th. Finished 11th (and lost to the co-NC's Miami in the bowl) 2001: 11-0, 2nd. Finished 8th (and lost to the NC Miami in the bowl) 2002: 7-5, NR. Did not finish ranked. 2004: 5-5, NR. Did not finish ranked. 2007: 5-6, NR. Did not finish ranked. Final tally: 4 times undefeated, 4 times in the top 3. 1 loss as an underdog. Of these games, NU twice rebounded to play the National Champion in the bowl game. Even by the kindest calculation possible, in the 16 NU-CU games between 1986 and 2001 (when the undefeated and top 3 defeats occured) the four CU wins ignores the 9 times NU was either undefeated or in the top 8 (or both) and won. And spare me the "just trying to win a game" line. When you win a NC (even a split one, that required a 5th down at Mizzou), you lose the right so say "woe is me" about your team beating other teams.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 14, 2010 11:36AM CST Oh no, the dreaded amputation treatment. A one armed QB will make history. Option right might be a bit tough but other than that he should be good to go. (BTW, steph, you are no help at all.)

Posted by: Trashman on July 14, 2010 11:41AM CST OTB No harm man, continue the good work. One fact remains in that I wish the wins/losses had mattered more in 02', 04', and 07'.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 11:42AM CST Driveby - it's really hard to argue with "when you lose to a team and are undefeated prior to that, it matters". The first loss stinks, regardless of if it's Oklahoma, Colorado, Iowa State, or Montana State. Sheesh.

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 11:47AM CST otb see i am correct

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 1:26PM CST Just like a broken watch...

Posted by: GreatOZ on July 14, 2010 1:38PM CST OTB You are correct in your assessment. Drive by is another loser Puff fan. Notice how he never mentioned how many times the Huskers totally ruined the Puffs season with crushing defeats. Which will once again occur this coming November!

Posted by: ChadMO on July 14, 2010 1:42PM CST As an outsider, I have to say I'm surprised that so many Husker fans won't miss much of the B12. (and no I'm not an idiot, I do understand the TX issue) For a program that stakes itself on its tradition, I'd think losing big parts of your history would make you at least a little conflicted. (granted a few of you did express regret) Maybe it's different when your team dominates the conference foes for the most part. I can tell you that if MU got the invite, our fans would miss dearly the tradition. I think the same would go for KU, KSU, ISU, OU, OSU, etc. I know it's important to look forward, and TX rained on the NU parade for a long time, BUT to be so proud of your history and say "good riddance" to the schools that were a part of it does make me question the "best fans in football" slogan. We of the B12 will miss you dearly, your program often elevated others and gave us a target to achieve. But I do believe the adjustment to the B10 will not be as pleasant as you assume, and in the future you will miss the tradition and passion built over decades of competition. Rivalries take time, geography, and tradition, as well as passion. Here's hoping it's a fantastic farewell season in the B12 where the whole nation is watching us for the great competition and intrigue.

Posted by: PlyNeb on July 14, 2010 2:30PM CST Chad While Husker fans may miss the Big 8, it died 15 years ago. The Big12 is another matter. As an aside, the only game I attended in Columbia was when Dan Devine coached at MU and the MU QB was Gary Lane. Nebraska pulled out a hard fought win in the 4th quarter to win 16-13. When leaving the stadium, an MU fan grabbed the red cowboy hat off my head and disappeared into the crowd. Not exactly a fond memory.

Posted by: Outside The Box on July 14, 2010 2:48PM CST ChadMO - You make some good points. Most of the things, people, and places that I'll miss about the XII are mostly from the Big 8 - I won't bore you with a list, but there are many, many things. The loss of traditions - notably our long running series with KU, the day after Thanksgiving game, and taking over opposing stadiums - may not survive the trip to the Big 10 (it's pretty easy to drive 3 hours or less to swarm Ames, Lawrence, or Manhattan, but getting to Purdue, Indiana, and Michigan State requires some planning). But from what we hear, the Big 10 cares as much about tradition as we do, and the creation of new traditions is exciting. And no, I don't think it's different since NU has "dominate(d) the conference foes". If we're being honest here, it's nice to have 30-40 years of W's in your pocket as a trump card (see my comments above). Speaking for myself and some of my friends, Nebraska fans have viewed the Big XII as the Big Texas conference for a number of years. With the realignment drama of this summer, it became very clear to everyone that the fate of the league rests entirely in Austin, and our Big 8 brothers - especially the North schools - were incredibly vulnerable to Texas's dual thirsts for money and power. Given that environment, and Texas's refusal to commit to the XII long term (i.e. more than a decade) we sought - and were fortunate enough to receive - a better opportunity. Much like Mizzou or any other school would have done, we jumped at the chance for stability, balanced power, increased revenue - divided equally, and the academic prestige of the Big 10. As for rivalries, I'd guess 95% of the posters here still resent the XII for ending the NU-OU rivalry, which was once right up there with Mich-OSU for the best in football. Since then, there have been a few attempts to force rivalries (CU, KSU, and lately MU), but none have stuck. There are a great many Husker fans (myself included) who anticipate a strong rivalry with Iowa - even including one of those silly trophies that we all used to mock. Conference games with “traditional powers” like OSU, PSU, and Michigan will likely be games of national interest I'm very happy that the XII will be staying together and teams like MU, KU, KSU, ISU, and even Baylor won't be scrambling for membership in a "lesser" conference. I worry about the stability of the XII-II, and sincerely wish the "Little Five" will band together and try to establish a power bloc in the new conference. Get Tech on your side, and you have a majority. Unfortunately, I fear that things will not change and Texas will do as they please and MU, KU, ISU, KSU, and BU will cater to their whims for fear of ending up in the Mountain West or MAC. I will not be saying "good riddance", nor do I intend to rub our new alignment in the faces of our 8/XII brethren. I expect to get a lot of vile and rude comments in Manhattan and Ames this fall, but so be it. It won't be the first time we've been treated poorly in either town. I can guarantee that EVERY Big XII team coming to Lincoln this fall (including Texas) will be subject to the same “best fans in college football” treatment they have always received. To do otherwise would be counter to our tradition and culture. Ironically, those words were put over the stadium entrances by former AD Steve Pederson who is widely accused of not knowing/respecting our traditions. However, a great many fans take those words very seriously. After games – win or lose – I make it a point to talk to opposing fans; to congratulate them on a win or console them on a hard fought loss. The “best fans” reputation is important here, and is more than just words above the stadium gates. Even during the dark Callahan days, our reputation for being gracious hosts, good sports, and applauding our opponents could not be taken away.

Posted by: drivebyposter on July 14, 2010 3:20PM CST little man behind the curtain. Ruining the buffs season is not an easy task. Since they hardly ever have one. It is just another loss.

Posted by: wchuskernumber1 on July 14, 2010 8:02PM CST I couldn't care less about the Colorado rivalry. I saw them in Boulder when they finally broke our win streak and talk about a bunch of idiots after the game. There fans have absolutely NO class I'll miss Iowa State more then I miss the Golden buffalochips.

Posted by: ArguingWithIdiots on July 15, 2010 12:05AM CST No. After talking to an elderly fan who hates us going to the Big Ten, I think for those missing the big 12 it is sloppy nostalgia.

Posted by: ChadMO on July 16, 2010 1:14AM CST OTB, nice post. Appreciate your perspectives.