Life in the Red Group

Posted by: huskers4_eva on July 10, 2011 7:11PM CST 1/100

Posted by: Wrestler on July 10, 2011 7:13PM CST Could this be a Grand Amplitude Slam! Maybe better than a Bam? What does this mean in the probability game of playing? Place your bets with Trash? He'll give you the odds, I suspect? Just got in this morning from Beijing as FU and I had a very interesting security gig there? GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: otto on July 10, 2011 7:15PM CST One in 6.75 MILLION !!

Posted by: Low Country Husker on July 10, 2011 7:17PM CST Better than they were yesterday.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:17PM CST One of the most hyped Husker Freshman arrival in Husker history. All the local TV sports broadcast have been touting in potential arrival all week end, with one even asking viewers to tweet them if they had a Bubba sighting in Lincoln.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:20PM CST He will have lots of pressure to live up to all the fans expectations, whether he chooses College or MLB. It's going to take lots of maturity to withstand all of that.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on July 10, 2011 7:23PM CST Martinez is got to love this. All the football talk being exerted elsewhere for the time being. Then as soon as fall practice begins, it all goes back to the guy under center.

Posted by: otto on July 10, 2011 7:24PM CST Don't see him staying in school with that much money on the line--be very surprised if he turned down the money---I wouldn't !!!

Posted by: big red 1 on July 10, 2011 7:24PM CST 95% he steps on the field and suits up.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:25PM CST PT said yesterday that he had heard that the Royals first offer was 6.1 Mill. Starling turned it down. So the Royals are real serious about Starling. While there is hope that Bubba might choose the Huskers, I still think he will sign will the Royals. Bubba did say that the Royals did not want him to go to Lincoln for the summer workouts, and that they would not be happy that he is. So again there is that hope.

Posted by: otto on July 10, 2011 7:27PM CST 5% that he puts his pants on before he steps on any field.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:36PM CST Erstad said he told Starling just to enjoy the process, and do what's right for him and his family. He said he did not give him any advice on what he should do. Erstad said if he chooses to play for the Huskers, he will see him in January and if he does not he will wish him well.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:45PM CST You know, sometimes you can get blinded about all the money. If that is all one is basing there decision on then they often end up making unwise decision. He has to make a decision on what he loves the most, what he most wants to do. If it was me, I would not think of the money until I was pretty sure what direction I was going to go. Some have said take the money he can always go back to college. And there is some truth to that. But going back to College at age 30 + is not the same is going to College at 18. I went back to College at age 30, and I was all business. I had nothing in common with all the young college classmates. I am sure if I had went when I was just out of high school, I would have enjoyed the experience better.

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 7:47PM CST Maybe we will see him play for us in 5 or 6 years.

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 7:50PM CST I/H, But would you have gotten the same grades? I suppose it might be different for an 18 year old student/athlete because of the available study support.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 7:53PM CST BR1, I love your optimism as I am an optimist at heart, but this time I expect to not see Bubba playing QB anytime soon.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:54PM CST RG, good point about the grades. I was a married with one daughter, so it was important to do well in school, and I did. Probably my GPA would have suffered at if I went when I was 18.

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 7:57PM CST Are there any volunteer Husker Hostesses?

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 7:58PM CST IH, I didn't wait until I was 30 but at 21 I was more serious as well, as I realized how important it was to learn as I may not get another opportunity if I wasted that one.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 7:59PM CST I think the Royals are going to end up offering him a 7 Mill bonus, and I think when they do he will be heading to Royal rookie camp.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 10, 2011 8:01PM CST BR1,you didnt say what uniform and what field,if you mean Kaufman and Royal Blue,then I think your right on,maybe even 99%.

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 8:02PM CST I/H I know mine did... ;) Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for everyone to wait. On the other hand, you are one of very few who actually wait to go then go...and finish. Good job and congratulations.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 10, 2011 8:03PM CST Husker4ever,I answered your question on the Frost blog.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 10, 2011 8:06PM CST Boras can only advise, he cannot talk to the Royals at all. Ehlers advisor agent did just that and caused Ehlers to not play most of his first season with the Husker Baseball team. Having said that, knowing Boras, he is telling Starling to play hardball with the Royals.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 8:15PM CST Jumbo, I am in the camp that does not see Bo leaving DONU to go to the NFL. I don't believe Bo is that greedy to have to get the most money that he can get or he would have an agent to negotiate for him and would have gone after more in his initial contract. I also remember him telling his players at LSU that he was given "his dream job" and was therefore leaving. I am proud to be DE Boliever in Doc and we will Cook in our new home

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 8:15PM CST I/H, No pun intended, I'm sure.

Posted by: Foghorn Jr on July 10, 2011 8:18PM CST Boras is probably loving this. He will send an e-mail everyday to Bubba "$ure hope your $afe. I $upport everything you are doing $on. $end me $ome photo$ of you with Bo" IMHO

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 10, 2011 8:25PM CST never said it would be because of greed,I said I believe his goal is the top of his proffesion,and thats an NFL superbowl,but I do hope I'm wrong,just an opinion.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 8:32PM CST Jumbo, you said " an offer he simply wont be able to refuse will come(money wise)" which implied greed the way I read that. I am simply stating my opinion as well and trying to state why my opinion is different than yours.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 10, 2011 8:38PM CST for what it's worth,I hope your right,but I dont know how things will change after Osborne retires,and I dont think he likes Pearlman,but since he and I haven't talked about it I could be wrong about that to and maybe he loves him...maybe,and maybe he loves BIG12 officials too....maybe.

Posted by: rickforhuskers on July 10, 2011 8:39PM CST If the money is not a concern, he will be a Husker. If his parents want him to go to school, he will be a Husker. If he wants to go to school play football and baseball, he will become a Husker. If not, he will become a Royal. I say 5% chance of him becoming a Husker.

Posted by: BO-urNe sUpremacy on July 10, 2011 8:47PM CST Maybe he can force himself to love play-for-millions pro baseball more than play for free football. But I agree w some here, that much $ can warp a person real fast, but he seems mature enough to handle it-that is, let somebody else handle it for him, for the time being.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 10, 2011 8:48PM CST has anyone else heard that Bubbas dad was recently laid off?

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 10, 2011 8:52PM CST Put yourself in Bubba's shoes. He loves baseball, and someone wants to give him $7 million to do it. How many of you would turn down $7 million to do something you love?

Posted by: paint it black on July 10, 2011 8:54PM CST he ain't coming..he is just as we say posturing for the big buckaroos......

Posted by: BO-urNe sUpremacy on July 10, 2011 9:03PM CST Uh, I'm not following all this, "if the $ is not a concern", business. Did his daddy give him a multi million dollar trust fund? Ok, if, in the unlikely event, he chooses to play football, it must mean that he likes football better and probably feels confident he can get to the NFL payoff. He's going to KC is my guess, though.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 10, 2011 9:04PM CST Jumbo: 95% that he becomes a Husker. My fault on not previously clarifying that. I really think Bubba will lean towards NU. I could be wrong but I hope not. His ethnic and skills remind me of another great back up QB that played and that is Berringer. GBR in fall camp.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:18PM CST Some have said Bubba is coming to Nu to force the hand of the Royals. To use us as a bargining chip as were. Not sure I like that very much.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 10, 2011 9:28PM CST IH....would you have enjoyed college more at age 30 with $6m or more in your bank account? :)

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 10, 2011 9:30PM CST It's a shame that a college football program can apparently be used to further a player's MLB signing negotiation. Starling has no business here in Lincoln unless he is trully serious about joining the Huskers. If not that serious, I think that he and his family should have a big guilt trip about such use of UNL facilities. Sure, he has the right to come under his commitment, but not the moral entitlement, in my opinion. How much money does he need to be offered, or turn down, to publically make his mind up? How long will this charade last, if it is a charade? I think the whole episode will be a gigantic distraction to the football program, not to mention the fan base.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:32PM CST PT, I think that is a fairly common way to get them to ante up, get the maximum offer likely on August 15, enough before midnight to get it done before the bewitching hour.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:35PM CST Ray we went through it a couple of years ago with Khiry Cooper, but it wasn't quite as big a deal in most peoples mind then because of the different position and he chose to be a Husker.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:35PM CST Ray, this is scary. we totally agree on something. All he has to do is state what his number is. Pay it and I will sign. Until then I am a Husker. End the game playing and everybody knows where they stand.

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 9:37PM CST SVH Yep, that would've been tough. Surely you would've chosen football @ NU in that position.....

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 9:37PM CST Evenin' boys...girls too if you're there, haven't read back any.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:37PM CST Wacky, IMO, he is still using us. I know cooper did it as well. Don't make it right.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:38PM CST PT, he may have done what you suggest and the Royals may be the ones trying to save a little money and seeing whether they can bargain with him and get him to play for less.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 10, 2011 9:40PM CST Before we get too down on the kid..he hasn't enrolled and will be participating in voluntary, player led workouts that coaches are not allowed to be involved in. This is hardly a felony.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:40PM CST That said, we are allowing ourselves to be used. We knew this would happen when he comitted. I guess I should not let it bother me. It is all part of the business.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:41PM CST PT, I have never said it was right, just saying I believe it is a common occurance with a 2 sport recruit.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:43PM CST PT, you will have to blame Wats as he was the one who recruited him, LOL

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:43PM CST SVH, true dat. We are playing our cards and they are playing thiers. Problem is Starling is the one with all the Aces.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 10, 2011 9:44PM CST It may be about negotiating leverage but its also about being as ready to play football as possible if the offer isn't enough to spur him to baseball.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 10, 2011 9:44PM CST Works for me Wacky. LOL. Ray you on board wih that.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 10, 2011 9:45PM CST Very true PT. Oh, to be young and in his position!

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 9:46PM CST BR1 95% still eh? Double or nuthin'....last chance. Own your speak dude!

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 9:49PM CST Yep PT, it's part of the business. I don't blame the kid, and if you look at it from another angle it might make more sense. It makes perfect sense to go on with what you would consider to be prudent to carry on with what your college plans are. If the 'bazillion' dollar signing bonus comes to the forefront then you go with plan B. In my mind what he is doing is part taking care of his business as far as becoming a Husker and part of it is letting the Royals know that he is serious about becoming a Husker should they choose to 'lowball' him. People use 'leverage' every day, I don't think he should have to disregard the leverage he has and should be allowed to use it. I don't view it as NU being 'used' as much as some might.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 9:52PM CST SVH...your scenario of going to college with $6+ mil in your pocket...oh man!

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:53PM CST Well, said coach, we accepted this scenario when they decided to recruit him. There were no surprises here and Bo must have decided that it was worth the risk.

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 9:54PM CST GBR You summed it up very longly.... So you got a new job yet?!

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 10, 2011 9:58PM CST Good night guys, time for this old man to go to bed.

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 10:03PM CST Wacky.... Don't leave dude! You talk a whole lotta sense when you're off the Carnes bandwagon! Okey, dokey....my bad. Sleep is extremely important for the geezers....hehe.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 10:06PM CST Night wacky. Trash...nope, not yet. It appears that I am the 'king of finalists'. I am currently a 'finalist' for 5 different jobs. 1 head football, 2 head baseball and 2 assistant football. I have 9 days left, after that I stay put and do it all over again next year.

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 10:13PM CST GBR Why take any asst job? Even if the pay is more, you gain nothing over what you have now with the family.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 10:18PM CST Trash...at this point it's not about the 'status' of the position, or career moves, or anything like that. It's about creating a functional retirement account. Any of the 5 would be a good situation to be in and a couple of them are 2.5 hours or less away.

Posted by: Trashman on July 10, 2011 10:27PM CST GBR Yeah, I get all that with your "double dippin" and such. Kinda takin' advantage of the system a bit? Seems like it would suck for the fam for me...just my observation if I compare it to my shoes... I understand the position however.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 10:33PM CST Understood Trash. Honestly, me being somewhere else and coming home on weekends wouldn't be that much different. I spend so much time at school now, it's just crazy.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 10, 2011 10:45PM CST PT Thanks for the kind words. It's ok to agree with me on matters of principle. Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong. And, I really don't blame Wats for Starling's summer conditioning, believe it or not, even though he recruited him. But, I think that our athletic department should be talking to Starling and his parents about the right approach. Maybe, they are doing just that. If Bubba has a real interest in coming here 'whatever' money is being offered, fine, no problem. If not, then there is a problem.

Posted by: Ture Husker on July 10, 2011 11:02PM CST Agree w/Ray on this one. It's like an altered state. Maybe that's all I have to do to get thru 55 more days!

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 10, 2011 11:02PM CST it's his best move to take the money and choose baseball. if this were a chess match...that's what i would expect. whoever is in charge of making this decision for the Royals should not offer 1 more nickel...cause he's gonna take the offer anyway...

Posted by: Ture Husker on July 10, 2011 11:06PM CST Yep, if he were serious enuf to walk away from those millions we'd probably know that by now.

Posted by: RedGore on July 10, 2011 11:11PM CST Anybody with Boost Mobile? What do you think? I'll check tomorrow for any advice y'all might have.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 10, 2011 11:17PM CST RG...no Boost Mobile here. I did buy a new car though.

Posted by: cstxfn on July 10, 2011 11:35PM CST RG... What's a Boost Mobile? I thought you were selling Fords?

Posted by: Sabretooth on July 11, 2011 12:00AM CST RG, Not too many Boost customers in Nebraska, so not too sure on how big a footprint they have here or what network they use. I think they use AT&T's network. I do know that Boost has some attractive plans for prepaid wireless service.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on July 11, 2011 12:01AM CST If you're looking at buying a truck. Look now further than the Ferd Fifteen Thousand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1C0r2EHQfY

Posted by: Sabretooth on July 11, 2011 12:06AM CST Just checked the coverage map of Boost. Not that good in Nebraska

Posted by: Fitzy on July 11, 2011 1:19AM CST I expect that the fac the is here in Lincoln is a bigger sign than many are giving it credit for. I think the money being offered to him is probably more than enough. Maybe Bubba really wants to see what it is like to be on campus, with his fellow players and go through the motions to see what its like. Maybe he IS leaning at going to school, confident in his ability to be right there getting another multi-million dollar contract offer in 3 or 4 years. I would think there is a pretty good chance he will still be good in 3 years at baseball and will be drafted again... or maybe by that time he is the starting QB for the Huskers and he enters the NFL draft and gets a big payday there... I think he is gonna make the money one way or another, the question is... is he ready to grow up and enter "the grind" of minor league baseball? Or would he rather have the most fun of his life and get to play both baseball and football all while getting an education that he will have for life.... I can see Bubba being the kind of kid that turns the big money down and shocks everybody by going to college. But I doubt it...

Posted by: BO-urNe sUpremacy on July 11, 2011 1:38AM CST Catch a rising Starling.

Posted by: Trashman on July 11, 2011 6:58AM CST Fitzy I am cornfused....you lost me somewhere between: "I expect the fact that he is here in Lincoln is a bigger sign than many are giving credit for." and "But I doubt it..." (that he is coming to NU) ????

Posted by: TomOs on July 11, 2011 7:17AM CST I would think it would be about a 1 in a 6.25 million chance.. he stays

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 7:18AM CST "But, I think that our athletic department should be talking to Starling and his parents about the right approach. Maybe, they are doing just that. If Bubba has a real interest in coming here 'whatever' money is being offered, fine, no problem. If not, then there is a problem." The athletic department has talked to Bubba, and they received a commitment from him in the form of his national letter of intent. There's really nothing else to be done. People use leverage all the time. You're correct that right is right and wrong is wrong, but there's not a thing wrong with what Bubba is doing. Nothing. The only person who's opinion matters--Bo Pelini--obviously has no problem with any of this, otherwise he wouldn't have recruited Bubba in the first place. Let's also keep in mind that any problems that result from this situation will be resolved, one way or another, by August 15, well before the first game.

Posted by: Denver Bob on July 11, 2011 7:21AM CST Here's some math.... A 22 year old graduates from college and averages $120,000 per year as a CPA or something for 43 years. That comes to $5,160,000. Bubba will make more than that in 5 years - even if he doesn't make it to "The Show".

Posted by: TomOs on July 11, 2011 7:40AM CST Well his parents and him ... wanted to experience the college life.. he got about 30 days of it.. mission accomplished..

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 7:40AM CST Just talked to a friend that spent the weekend in Madison and they have BEAT NEBRASKA shirts out already.thats kinda funny and a little flattering!Wuck Fisconsin,we dont need no stinking Badgers!GBR!

Posted by: Bornhusker on July 11, 2011 7:46AM CST Denver Bob - The problem with your math is that giving $6 million (or more) to an 18 year old is like giving whiskey and car keys to one. That $5,160,000 he makes as a CPA will probably last a whole lot longer.

Posted by: TomOs on July 11, 2011 7:52AM CST He sounds like a good kid..you can do a lot with college education.. you can do a lot with 6+ million... take the money, kid.. as much as I would like to see him in Husker Red.. its the most rationale decision. (you can get an education later if wanted)

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:21AM CST OK, aftyer reading some posts and rethinking things a bit, i will recant my statement about Bubba a bit. As I think about this I realize the people that matter are more than likely completely in the loop. Bo and DE are fully aware of what Starling is dong and must be fine with it or he would not be on Campus. I understnad the leverage thing. don't have to like it but i can understand it. If I was the Royals, I would try to lock him up and let him do his thing in collage. Make sure there are some injury escape clauses which he can protect with insurance and wait until he is done with the football thing. That might preclude playing college baseball however. These arrangements have been done before so it is not ground breaking work.

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 11, 2011 8:21AM CST TomOs--still laughing at your 7:40 post...funny stuff

Posted by: LUDA on July 11, 2011 8:32AM CST If Bubba turns down millions of guaranteed dollars to end up playing here now, I would seriously question his intelligence and rational judgment - which are essential traits for a quarterback.

Posted by: Blackshirtbacker on July 11, 2011 8:46AM CST Hey Bubba - I see you are getting lots of help on here to help you make your decision. I hope you stay at NU for four years, but that is me being selfish. Regardless of which way you decide to go, your future looks extremely bright. Good Luck - and I hope 30 years from now when you look back at this fork in the road, you are very happy with the decision you made.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 8:55AM CST PT Just because Bo and DE (whoever that is), is fine with it, doesn't make it right unless Bo knows something that we don't. It's a good thing that the athletic department is not funded by tax dollars. Eventually, one would think that we would stop recruiting baseball players to play football, but nothing seems to change. This will go down as another missed high profile QB candidate who either decommitted, transfered, left school, got injured, or just didn't pan out. Our junk pile of failed QBs over the past 10 years is proably the biggest in the nation. Maybe, we should just go back to the single wing formation. So, let's get ready to endure another 'insult to injury' wait until the magic signing deadline. Bubba can count his millions while he bounces around the minors for the next several years, instead of enjoying a college education while improving his skills for probably the same or better payoff later. That's why we have insurance for the latter option for those rare athletes who can see beyond the dollar signs.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:12AM CST Lost in all the hububb about 1 kid is the fact that we are in this conversation period. It is nice to see an Athlete of this caliber picking us over the other suitors. It has been a few years but we are back in the living rooms of many of the elite players in the country. Whether we get him or not it can't hurt to have been in the discussion.

Posted by: RichardMo2 on July 11, 2011 9:17AM CST Up to him and I wish him well whatever his decision. The bigger question is his potential in college while playing football and baseball. Sure...others have done this...Erstad, Cooper to name a couple of recents. But neither of them played quarterback! I can't imagine a #1 under center missing all of Spring practice to play baseball. So...GBR and good luck to all.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:20AM CST Did Elway play both Sports at Stanford? He may be the last QB do do it with any degree of success.

Posted by: Country Husker on July 11, 2011 9:21AM CST So, I wrote a pretty long dissertation on this subject a few days back. I'll summarize. Most likely no one on this blog knows Bubba personally so all you are really doing is saying what you think you would do in his shoes. Not everybody grabs for the dollar all the time, give the kid and his parents a little credit for having some sense about what's best for him. I still say the best thing for Bubba is to do whatever he feels he wants to do regardless of the money involved. If he continues on the path he is on, either at NU or with the Royals, there is no guarantee of success or failure. It's still up to him to perform, no matter where he goes. It would be easier to perform well if he is doing something he wants to do where he wants to be. I'm still on the Bubba is N bandwagon. Although, it is doubtful he can be a Heisman winning QB and play center field for 4 years. Didn't Gill do that though? There will come a time in college that he will need to pick one sport or the other. Coming to NU offers a chance to play both for a year or two and see what shakes out. He won't get that opportunity with the Royals.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 9:53AM CST PT There you go again, rationalizing away the obvious charade, with that appeal to the koolaid base. After 10 years of inertia, we should be well beyond the satisfaction of being in the conversation about great athletes, wouldn't you think?

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:59AM CST Ray, we are in a better place than we were even 2 years ago. Especially 5. We would not even have been in the discussion with aaron Green, Jamal turner, Bubba Starling, etc. Not rationalization, just fact.

Posted by: BNatural on July 11, 2011 10:01AM CST Posted by: Low Country Husker on July 10, 2011 7:17PM CST "Better than they were yesterday." I believe what Low Country said last night. I believe it more every day that he is in camp with the huskers and in meetings with coaches. Too bad he doesn't get actual football camp with the coaches or he would be swept up in Bo fever, switch to defense and be the best CB yet for us.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 10:18AM CST "Just because Bo and DE (whoever that is), is fine with it, doesn't make it right unless Bo knows something that we don't." With all due respect, just because you aren't fine with it, that doesn't make it wrong. "Bubba can count his millions while he bounces around the minors for the next several years, instead of enjoying a college education while improving his skills for probably the same or better payoff later." He's the fifth overall pick of the draft. He can't go much higher than he already has. If goes to college, almost any deal he's offered will be for less money than the one he'll get this year.

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 11, 2011 10:44AM CST the first $1,000,000 will go fast by the time you buy a house, a Suv, and a full collection of Monster trucks...and 1. a couple fishing boats 2. a lifetime supply of koolaid 3. a plane 4. a home in Vegas 5. can't forget about the women... 6. a Corvette and a Camaro 7. a ranch in Texas?? 8. is that more than 1 million?

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 10:49AM CST Doc, Don't forget the IRS.

Posted by: Trashman on July 11, 2011 10:55AM CST PT I could probably agree with your "fact" if you go back to the late Solich years. There seemed to be a small bit of talent decline. But Billy C and Co. sat in living rooms of the likes of Lucky, Cody Green, Suh, etc. They were all considered to be great "athletes/players" at the time. How they were utilized and developed is a whole 'nother story. And if lookin at recruits from 2 years ago...do you think a healthy TMart is getting outran by Bubba? Or do you think Green is a better player than Burkhead? I guess I feel the talent has been comin' in for awhile. The coaches just have to figure out what combo maxes it out. Bo seems to be on the right path in this regard.

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on July 11, 2011 10:57AM CST I will be surprised if He stays. Saying the family has not made a decision yet was the key for me. Makes me wonder if the being on campus is just contract leverage thing. The Royals will come hard now, throwing more money in the pot. Kansas boy, Royals Fan, no B10 sense of being, loves baseball, high draft #, and big money offer. This kid already has a deep sense that he has maybe played his last football game. You don't get this chance often in life and its a lot of money....a lot of money.

Posted by: Trashman on July 11, 2011 10:58AM CST Oops, Cody Green was Bo. But I guess our beloved Watson was still helping...

Posted by: Stone on July 11, 2011 11:30AM CST On the Bill King show this morning, he was reprting that the Royals' offer is nearing the $8M number. Not sure if he meant they have or our going to go that high. Either way, Bubba may not be in Lincoln very long.

Posted by: casualobserver on July 11, 2011 11:33AM CST Doc: Your proration of funds on the first mil is entertaining to read. But on #7, why not substitute a productive farm near Lincoln vice purchasing a ranch in Texas? It would provide a better return against a declining dollar.

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 11, 2011 11:36AM CST casual good call, that would be odd to buy a ranch in Texas wouldn't it lol

Posted by: Rickinaz on July 11, 2011 11:46AM CST It sounds like he is planning to go pro. The whole idea of arriving to campus and negotiating seems aimed to up the signing $. Hope he stays, but mainly I hope he does what he feels is best. Honestly, they guy on offense I'm the most excited about seeing on the field is Ameer Abdullah. He has the same latteral cutting and straight ahead abilities that Rodgers possesed and he makes people miss him. People will be excited every time he touches the ball.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 12:01PM CST festusmonroe Count 1. I agree 100 and 10%. Count 2. It's hard to beat #5, but assuming he plays well in college, improves his skills, and stays healthy, why wouldn't all of that high school talent be worth more after 3 years of college ball? And if he gets injured, why wouldn't a multi-million dollar insurance policy protect him? Overall: I agree that he would be taking some risk, but the long term benefits of going to college might outweigh the quick money incentives for the right individual.

Posted by: throw46 on July 11, 2011 12:01PM CST Didn't know one could work out with the team being enrolled.

Posted by: GBR_CRCO on July 11, 2011 12:03PM CST I spoke with someone in the know in the Royals organization, and they absolutely believe that they will sign him before the deadline. He also heard that Starling may still play for the Huskers after he signs the deal.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:09PM CST Trash.....mind you this is based on watching 2 plays in the Army All America game, but I think if you give Bubba 3-9 months experience in our offense, he outruns Martinez overall. I think TMart has the better speed, just barely, but what I saw from Bubba was the kind of lateral movement to make people miss and escape a crowd that we haven't seen from Martinez yet. Shortest books in history..."My Summer Vacation in Lincoln" by Bubba Starling?

Posted by: casualobserver on July 11, 2011 12:11PM CST Throw46: Don't count on the "work out" being open to the media.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 12:11PM CST PT is right......NU is being used for $$ negotiations........It's very Gabbertish. It's unbelievable all that's been written about this matter. IMO there's about a 0.0000001% chance of him playing for us. And the Royals don't want to invest millions to have him hang out here. In a month he'll be playing for their minor league team........both him and his mom and pops driving new cars singing doowa didty didty dum didty dum......

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:18PM CST It could be worse...we could be talking about Tyler Gabbert. I hope we get Bubba....not sure what the odds are that college BB helps you in the pros for a person of Bubba's caliber.

Posted by: Fear the gathering Blackshirts on July 11, 2011 12:18PM CST As has prolly been stated, my guess is that this is simply a negotiating tactic that he and Boras can use with the Royals. On a better note, I finally have my Nebraska at Minny tix. Gotta love Minnesota weather in October.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:18PM CST Ray, that's a reasonable question. For the sake of argument, let's say he has a productive college baseball career, and gets drafted #5 again. Even if he's offered more money, he's lost 3-4 years' worth of earning potential. But if he went pro right out of high school, he'd be at least three years closer to his next multimillion dollar payday.

Posted by: StephenJo on July 11, 2011 12:20PM CST Bubba will get his money either now or later. It is not money now or nothing later. Playing football and baseball in college will be a fun thing for him. It is more about finding out if he can play Div. 1 college football. He is simply not done with football yet. The new Baseball coach at Nebraska will be able to help develop his skills better than a minor league team. Playing baseball at Nebraska may make it so he doesn't have to play 2 or 3 years on some minor league team. College is more than sports it is an education and Money is not everything.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:24PM CST "PT is right......NU is being used for $$ negotiations........It's very Gabbertish." There's nothing Gabbertish about it. Bo knew full well that this exact scenario would happen. He was fine with it enough to offer Bubba a scholarship anyway. People negotiate for better deals every day. It's the American way. In Bubba's case, instead of competing with Texas or Ohio State for his services, NU is competing against the Kansas City Royals.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 12:28PM CST I don't care if Pelini knows he doesn't stand a chance in hell of recruiting this kid......it's still BS.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:28PM CST I think most of these LITR career counselors advising Bubba to go to college have confused "What's best for Bubba" with "What's best for my favorite football team." Believe it or not, they might not be the same thing.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:29PM CST "I don't care if Pelini knows he doesn't stand a chance in hell of recruiting this kid......it's still BS." But on the other hand, no it's not.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:33PM CST Stephen....no disrespect to Coach Erstad, but I have to think that professional coachings staffs that don't have to worry about recruiting and academics can develop someone better. One comment out here about Harbaugh's Stanford staff was that all had recent pro experience and that this experience in the pros led to a faster learning curve for coaches.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 12:33PM CST fest....you're right it is nice that the UN provides this kid a place to play his chess game with the Royals.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 12:37PM CST festusmonroe Thanks for your perspective. If money is everything, then he would be behind 3 years unless he went straight from college to the Bigs and stayed there, which is not often done. But, on the other hand like StephenJo says, perhaps Erstad would be a better teacher than a minor league coach which might allow him to progress faster and make up those 3 years. And as he also says, "College is more than sports it is an education and Money is not everything." I guess we will find out sometime this summer whether instant gratification for money trumps a college experience for Bubba and his family. I just wish that our summer conditioning was not a part of the negotiation process. If Bubba really means to enroll, why not publically state that he will do so no matter what? His silence speaks volumes.

Posted by: Husker_Heat on July 11, 2011 12:39PM CST SVH, I just read that book cover to cover. Short, but not so sweet. A rather disappointing ending, albeit foreshadowed and thus expected. Like all "farmboy novels".... the hero figure takes the money and runs.

Posted by: Flanker on July 11, 2011 12:41PM CST Slim & none

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:41PM CST I'm with you Festus.....Bo knows his chances were 1 in 10 or something like that. The only BS I see is on the blog...people being critical of an 18 yr old who loves baseball for potentially accepting an $8m or so offer to keep playing it....and for being shrewd about negotiations and keeping his options open.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:42PM CST "fest....you're right it is nice that the UN provides this kid a place to play his chess game with the Royals." You obviously think there's some sort of downside to this situation that I just don't see. What, exactly, is the harm of allowing him to practice, in the hopes that he ends up playing at NU?

Posted by: Husker_Heat on July 11, 2011 12:46PM CST Have you read that other epic saga known for it's infinite brevity? Callahan's : "My Successes at Nebraska". Consider it the Cliff's Notes version of a Cliff's Notes Guide. You couldn't even call it a brochure, more like a flyer, nay a business card. One chapter. One word. Suh. A very short yet very sweet read.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 12:47PM CST did anybody read this post besides me??? I spoke with someone in the know in the Royals organization, and they absolutely believe that they will sign him before the deadline. He also heard that Starling may still play for the Huskers after he signs the deal. That would be a win win. I have been talking this all along but no body else seems to want to discuss this possibility.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 12:48PM CST festusmonroe I don't know what fleaflicker is thinking, but the harm to me is the use of UNL facilities for a recruit to negotiate for a major league contract. I don't think its ethical for a player to do that, or for the athletic department to allow it.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:49PM CST Monday puts him ahead of the Gabberts in terms of # of workouts in Nebraska. Festus...I think the downside is that he will take reps in 7 on 7 drills that could have gone to Cody Green......I mean......nevermind. :)

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:49PM CST Ray, I get what you're saying, but I think you're being unfair to the guy. Taking the contract doesn't make him greedy or a bad person. The Royals have offered him a lot of money to do something he loves doing. Why wouldn't he want to negotiate for the best offer he could get? He's got leverage in this situation and he'd be foolish not to use it.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 12:51PM CST IMO, the kid has had plenty of time to make up his mind if he wants to make a committment to play for Nebraska.....and obviously he doesn't want to make that committment like the rest of the players have. I think of it as more of a distraction to the team than anything.....the kid is obviously using the U for personal gain........I'm just calling a spade a spade here. How you spin it is your business.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 12:52PM CST PT Play what for the Huskers? Baseball? Football would conflict with much of professional baseball season. Sounds pretty iffy to me, but if true would be good for Bubba, the Royals, and us.

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:52PM CST "the harm to me is the use of UNL facilities for a recruit to negotiate for a major league contract." Ray, I get that part, I just don't see how that causes harm to anyone or anything. What exactly are the negative consequences? How is NU worse off for allowing him to do this?

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:54PM CST PT, I obviously can't speak for a baseball GM, but if I'd just invested $7 million in a kid, the last thing I'd want him doing in his free time is playing tackle football for free.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on July 11, 2011 12:55PM CST Well, it has been a spirited civil discussion about Bubba, but I have to take my wife to a doctors appointment. Hopefully, you all will have the final answer by the time I get back. Thanks!

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 12:55PM CST "I think of it as more of a distraction to the team than anything.....the kid is obviously using the U for personal gain........I'm just calling a spade a spade here. How you spin it is your business." Right, but again, how exactly does this harm NU?

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 12:58PM CST I also don't necessarily agree that taking the pro contract is instant gratification. Is it instant gratification if he signs a deal for $10m but not instant gratification if he signs one for $100,000? Money isn't everything...and I'm sure its not everything in his decision. If he decides to go baseball, it won't necessarily be because of the money, but why go without it?

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 1:03PM CST Ray, you're right about spirited and civil. Rarely does that happen on a message board, it seems. It's a nice change of pace :)

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 1:06PM CST Festu, I can't either but it has happened before although perhpas not with a player of this magnitude. But, it would sew him up which might be better than losing hin altogether. And rather than playing baseball for the Huskers he could do his developmental stuff in the spring for the Royals. In either case he is not available for the spring camp work re football so whats the diff?. Or like I suggested in an earlier post, just defer his contract until he is done being a Husker. I know, I am reaching here but what the H. One can dream if one wants to.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 1:29PM CST Flea....isn't it annoying when a player uses the school for personal gain? College football is supposed to be all about the school using players for the school's gain....the nerve of that kid. ;)

Posted by: Country Husker on July 11, 2011 1:32PM CST As much hype as Bubba is getting already, imagine a Division 1 quality 2-sport athlete who doesn't think the entire world revolves around money. He would be a legend before stepping onto the field just for passing up a mountain of money to do something he (and mom) wants to do. Namely, go to college, get educated, and take a shot at being a Division 1 quarterback. I just don't see what is so sinister, or unbelievable, or damaging to NU about that.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 1:39PM CST In an unrelated note...OSU's top recruit for 2012, the top rated player in the state, a tackle named Kalis, has decommitted and said he will play at U. Michigan. (Or wherever his cousin Tyler Gabbert plays...just kidding.)

Posted by: ShawneeHusker on July 11, 2011 1:57PM CST As a resident of the KC metro, I have followed Bubba's high school career with interest and believe he and his parents to be good people. I certainly wish Bubba all the best as he moves forward with his post-high school career. All that said, I believe there is little chance he actually becomes a Husker. I also wonder why so many folks believe it is a good idea to have a quarterback who does not participate in spring football. Coach Erstad, as a punter, was successful but playing quarterback is not even in the same argument. And seriously, those who believe an athlete can leave football while playing professional baseball for a "few" years and then return to football and play quarterback... cmon', it is time for all to move on

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 11, 2011 2:01PM CST PT, it's conceivable that he'd want a provision in the contract that allows him to play pro baseball. You're right, from the Royals' perspective, it's better than having nothing to show for your first round pick.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 2:02PM CST Throw46, normally almost all incoming freshman don't enroll until fall semester begins classes. I guess maybe some would come early and do the summer class thing if that's their desire to get a head start on school, but I don't think that's the norm...unless I missed something and this staff makes it some kind of usual practice. As far as I know, you don't have to be enrolled in classes to participate in the summer workouts, unless there's some NCAA rule prohibiting it these days...never heard of it though. Heck, they could wait until the last day of general registration to sign up for classes if they wanted to as far as I know, and that's like a week or two into the beginning of the semester.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 2:41PM CST Shawnee.......good post!

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on July 11, 2011 2:55PM CST Shawnee: There have been several QB big time Div 1 starters after failing in the BB Minor Leagues. One was a Seminole for Bobby B. However, Starling's gig is far different here. Bubba's gonna do what is best for Bubba here. Very few Rooks play up in the Show, or receive all that signing money. They are paid for minor level ball until they 'earn' the Show on schedual, then they get their signing money. Contracts can be changed, but still, this is heavy stuff for a kid and family to digest.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 2:57PM CST Wacky and Husker4ever,please give me some of your reasons why you feel Bo isn't interested in the NFL,particularly why you would believe this to be true after T.O. retires within the next 5 years,I'm hoping you guys are right and I would love to hear some of the reasons you feel this way,thanks.GBR!

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 3:03PM CST SVH,I do commercial contract painting and wallcoverings,now every time a customer or an architiect changes a color or wallcovering spec we are refering to them as a Gabbert instead of an addendum,and pretty much anytime anyone changes thier minds about anything.

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 3:14PM CST Jumbo.... I think I may start calling my wife "Gabby". We started remodeling the kitchen 6 years ago when she retired and we are (I mean she is) still working on it. You would have been pulling out your hair working for her, but I would gladly sit in the garage and have some of that Kool-Aid with you.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 3:34PM CST CSTXFN,lmao,thats good stuff and you Sir,are absolutley welcome anytime!the kool-aid is GGGOOOOOOOOODDDDD!GBR.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 3:41PM CST Jumbo, If I may throw out my 2 cents on Bo and the pro thing, 1st he has been there and done that and left of his own accord.. He seems to like the College Gig. 2nd. Mary Pat likes Lincoln. 3rd, Mary Pat likes Lincoln. 4th, Mary,,,, Oh you get that point. So IF he moves I think it will be for another college job. And there just aren't many better than this one. Money does not seem to be his prime motivator, (no Agent) so, As long as we make a good AD hire We got him for awhile unless we run him off.

Posted by: fleaflicker on July 11, 2011 3:41PM CST cstxfn.......if your avatar is a pic of your misses then retirement has treated her very well. Like her Merc too.

Posted by: GBR_CRCO on July 11, 2011 3:59PM CST Bubba is basically going to sign a baseball contract no matter what. The Royals want him bad and they'll pay what they have to to get him signed. The Scout for the Royals who scouted Bubba called him "the white Bo Jackson". And this was the guy who scouted Bo Jackson for the Royals. No way the Royals let him get away. The only chance the Huskers have of getting him is if he decides to play football while playing baseball in the minors. He is signing with the Royals no matter what.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 4:02PM CST CRCO, welcome to the LITR. Good insight on Bubba. thanks.

Posted by: AZ-husker on July 11, 2011 4:02PM CST last night I was on twitter and Aaron Green posted a comment that said "The famous Bubba Starling is sitting on my bed". So I take it that they are in the dorms and hanging out which is awesome for us Nebraska fans. After Aaron Green posted that the flurry of tweets came in from Husker fans.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 4:05PM CST Thanks PT,always like your 2 cents,and I have heard that about Bo's wife loving Lincoln,she did NOT feel the same about Shreveport I'm told.I truely hope you guys are right and that he does want to be like Stoops at OU,I pray we never run him off like we almost did Osborne.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 4:10PM CST AZ,had a couple friends that met A.G. at the CWS a couple weeks ago,said the kid is 100% class an was super friendly to thier kids,took pictures and singed autographs for them,an easy person to root for,and not the least bit small,he's not the tallest,but absolutley ripped with big shoulders and tree-trunk thighs!just wanted to pass that along.

Posted by: Trashman on July 11, 2011 4:12PM CST PT When you say Bo "left on his own accord"....sorta. Bo has steadily climbed the ladder in the profession. Remember, he left the pro game for an upgrade in the business financially and job title wise. A Defensive Coordinator position in college is higher up than a linebackers coach in the NFL. Now I have no idea if Bo has intentions to go to the NFL as a HC. It is certainly not for everyone and the pay from college is not that far off comparably. So for him, maybe the pinnacle has been reached with his "dream job" comments to is former LSU players. That being said...I would rule out nothing anymore.

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on July 11, 2011 4:12PM CST all the numbers say he will go to baseball but it just doesn't make sense to come to summer workouts if doesn't want to play qb here. Why would he. I don't buy into the logic that hes using as a negotiating tool. I think thats overthinking and just dumb. I feel in my gut that he wants to play qb at nebraska and thats where his heart is. i hope that is the case.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 4:13PM CST *he did NOT sing the autographs,lmoa,but he did sign them,kriecky,I cant schpell fer shite!

Posted by: AZ-husker on July 11, 2011 4:15PM CST Jumbo-I read all the husker posts on Twitter and he is very much a class act. Glad he is a husker and look forward to seeing him carry the ball.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 4:25PM CST Trash, I agree on the never say never. specially after Tom Retires. But he does like it here. And he chose to "climb the ladder" in college not the Pro Ranks. Maybe he thought it would be faster.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 4:26PM CST Shawnee....Chris Weinke did the effectively...not sure if there were others.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 4:54PM CST Jumbo...was off for a while. I like the Gabbert thing.

Posted by: deadred on July 11, 2011 4:54PM CST i think beigning here gives neb a shot bubba stays as for using it as a ploy those in charge dont mind so why should i if bubba stays great if he goes good luck to him and dont you think agent advised him to come to lincoln for leverage i say 50-50 that bubba plays at neb

Posted by: Husker_Heat on July 11, 2011 5:09PM CST Zero percent chance Bubba plays for DONU. Zero.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 5:15PM CST Pessimists vs optimists.The debate rages on.

Posted by: Husker_Heat on July 11, 2011 5:27PM CST Step away from the Kool-aid.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 5:30PM CST Bammers for Bubba.

Posted by: PlyNeb on July 11, 2011 5:32PM CST RLuben Certainly no need for early enrollment in order to participate in the early voluntary drills. FWIW, I live in Alabama, and all but two of this years Crimson Tide recruits are already enrolled. As to Bubba, I just can't see him jeopardizing his baseball career by risking an injury playing football--unless he could get insurance from Lloyds of London.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 5:47PM CST This will be an ongoing discussion up until the deadline on August 15. What I would like to see is for him to make a decision before the the first day of Fall camp, which is August 6. That way it will not be a distraction for the players and coaches, as you know the media is going to be focusing on that until he decides. If it's baseball on the Pro level or football and baseball on the college level, just make a decision and to me the sooner the better.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 11, 2011 5:48PM CST Ply...I think it would be Lloyds of Lincoln. I'm with PT...I'll BAM for Bubba.

Posted by: Wrestler on July 11, 2011 6:01PM CST I truely hope you guys are right and that he does want to be like Stoops at OU,I pray we never run him off like we almost did Osborne. Jumbo, I like your comments quite often, I might say as well as many others? Now getting my quota this Tues. morning and a trophy one at that, I feel like I have been imbued with insight from the mythology gods on Mt. Everest, afterall I did go to Tibet for my honeymoon? And I feel that there is always a marginal sector of fans that will blow like the wind, i.e. disgruntled after Boise State's win over OU or a 8 and 5 season, maybe Bob's best coaching season with a rash of injuries I have never seen for one team in one season to such key players? Or losses of NC games? But Bob like Bo now came at the perfect storm for timing of desire for fans of these both storied programs? Barry and his success and then mired in downtimes with a string of who Howard for one season and on and on? Then Bob and consistent winnings? TO and then the Frank saga and then who BC yes BC as in before to coming of Bo? Bob has it made at a great program with a solid track record and money no problem shoot they compensate him handsomely for staying 10 seasons and all kinds of incentives built in? Losing assistants to HC jobs just is motivation for other prodigies to want to come onboard for their own destiny? Yes, Florida came knocking and ND and others but jumping to what apples to oranges? And the pros a different ballgame for coaching than the young men in the college ranks? Bottomline is everytime a opportunity to a OSU or a LSU or others comes open there will be the suspense game or talk of NFL, but Bo could find NU sweet as in increases of compensation and great fan support to his liking for the long run hopefully? After all tenure in HC ranks as TO had at NU equates into stability of success that all fans yearn for in the long run? TO and Bo good relationship, Pearlman not sure, maybe reconciliation in private for the two of them hopefully, as the administration of relationships is big also for contentment also? The Bubba deal, I concur with coach GBR, I see what is playing out and can't blame Bubba, I think nomatter the decision, the publicity of his desiring to be a Husker if not a MLB is all good for NU? And who knows what the future brings, should he decide baseball first as in Okie Lite and their QB of today? I killed a monster in size today for my quota maybe I should mount it on the wall? KW would mount me on the wall instead, if I did? Later 7 am Tuesday in HK, time for morning tea? Green Tea! GBR! Zhou Da Hong!

Posted by: Eagz on July 11, 2011 6:12PM CST In a perfect husker nation, we'd spend all summer blogging about how a guy named Joe Broekemeir puked up and bled out everything he had for this program just to sieze a moment in one small fraction of his senior season. And there are many others just like him over the years. Instead we keep talking about a woulda, coulda shoulda situation. I don't know if he's gonna suit up or not. Can't say I care that much, hope he does. But my only point is this: Husker Football is not what it is because of Carl Crawford, Harrison Beck, Sam Keller and Blaine Gabbert. It's the Turman's, Mackovicka's, Broekemeir's and many others who made it great. Because they paid the price here, not in high school. Anyone remember Terry Rogers?........Me either.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 6:23PM CST Thanks Wrestler,hope you have a great Tuesday and enjoyed your green tea. Eagz,great post,GREAT post!GBR! BAM FOR BUBBA

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 6:28PM CST husker heat,you sir,are also welcome to some Kool-Aid...c'mon man,everybody's doing it....GBR,and a Bam for the HuskerHeat!just because he loves it so much!

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 6:32PM CST Yep I remember Terry Rodgers, and I do think he would have been a pretty good player, but injuries ended his college career almost before it started. A side note. TO had offered T. Rodgers first, he had some hype to0. But there was this kid the McBride was recruiting and the kid really wanted to be a Husker, he had Husker stuff all over his bedroom. Charlie really wanted TO to take this kid. But TO said they had already offered Terry Rodgers, and did not want to small backs in that class, so they did not offer the kid. The kid's name? Barry Sanders. And he ended up playing at Oklahoma State. McBride said every time Barry tore off some big yards against us, he would remind TO that he turned him down. Said he never failed to let TO know what he missed.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 6:36PM CST 10 and 11 reported tonight on the Sportscast that KC has and offer of 6.2 million bucks (bonus) laying on the table for Starling. That is no small chunk of change.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 6:38PM CST Ok someone's mixing laquer or quick dry enamel fumes with their koolaid.

Posted by: joe9wicket on July 11, 2011 6:41PM CST Islander, woulda coulda shoulda... however, NU did offer and the kid did accept a few years later, broke all of Barry's records in Wichita, name was... Evans.... Deangelo? Pretty good player, got hurt, got a bit too big for his britches, finished up at Emporia St. But you have to remember Sanders Heisman year, our guy, Ken Clark outrushed him by a good 80 yards.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 6:44PM CST Jimbo, Don't let a customer talk you into a tequila drinking contest after you just finished spraying his millwork and cabinets without a respirator. I speak from experience, just don't do it. He'll make it sound all fun and like you're a wuss if you don't participate, but just remember when you are too high on fumes to make a good decision that Russ said don't do it.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 6:50PM CST Ken Clark was damn good back, I didn't know how good he was our freshman year, never played against him or any Omaha teams our senior year and he had a bum ankle our freshman year. Pretty cool guy, kinda quiet and laid back, good sense of humor, very confident. Was fun to watch him play some pro ball and recall back to when I'd talk smack to him about not being a very good tailback. Yep, I used to talk smack to Ken Clark can't remember exactly what I'd mess with him about or what I said...he probably didn't like me much. Hey the FB's gotta mess with the divas.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 6:50PM CST Evans would make some jukes and moves that would take one's breath away. And he had speed to burn. Many fans including me thought that he would end up being in the running for the Heisman by the time he was a Senior. But as you pointed out joe9, injuries and a bad attitude derailed a very promising career with us.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 6:51PM CST lmao,will do Russ,will do,me and Hose have never gotten along very well anyways.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 6:57PM CST If I remember right, Clark played HS for Benson, I know it wasn't Central...yeah Benson sounds right. Anyone remember the early 80's when Omaha Westside had those #1 in the nation prep ranked teams? then a couple years Creighton Prep had some #1 ranked teams or up near the top. I think Lincoln SE had a high ranked team once too....seems like Central had a few also.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 6:58PM CST With Evans it was all all about "me."

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:03PM CST Omaha Central for a long time was I-Back central in high school. Year after year they would have outstanding talent at that position. Guys like Calvin Jones, Ahman Green, and so on.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:05PM CST That's how it is with a lot of tailbacks, they learn that from being HS stars and everyone telling them how good they are unless they have coaches, and parents that keep them humble and their attitudes in check. We've been pretty lucky getting dudes with good attitudes, work ethic and solid people for the most part. But for every Burkhead or Helu, there's 10 other RB's who don't have what they have as far as maturity, work ethic or humility. It comes natural for them, others have to work on it, or experience some failure along the way before they get with the program, some never do.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:07PM CST If my memory serves me right Gale Sayers graduated from Central as well. He was never a Husker. Went to Kansas because he said he wanted to play on a winner so turned down Devaney. Devaney showed him which school was the winner.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:11PM CST Yep Sayers went to Central. I was trying to tell step that Nebraska HS's have produced a ton of NFL RB talent over the years. If you were to break it down, I bet we'd be near the top, and if you broke it down per capita, we might be on top or damn close. All I know is for a small state like NE, we sure have contributed to the NFL ranks quite well. I'm talking Nebraska HS talent, not NE University talent, that's another subject.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 7:13PM CST Deangalo did say a couple years later that it was the worst decision he could've made,he was frustarted with that weird abdominal starin we had going around and some tough competition from some underclassmen.it was a shame,he was great at times.I believe he had an amazing game against one of k-states best teams,something like 35 carries for over 2hundy on a bum ankle and cracked ribs maybe??memory is a little hazy from the fumes,ya,thats it,the fumes...

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:15PM CST I think John Kelly from Lincoln SE played a little in the pros, he hosts some entertainment show now. Did Keith Jones play any pro ball, anyone know? Rathman, Schlesinger, Makovica, Ken Clark, Amahn Green, Sayers... yadda yadda yadda. Can't think of them all off the top of my head.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:16PM CST Sayers was great in track too. Held the state record for the Broadjump until several years ago. Something like 24 or 25 ft.

Posted by: Jumbo Stiehm on July 11, 2011 7:17PM CST gotta bail,hopefully be back later.and it was an abdominal Strain,not starin,krykie!

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:18PM CST Where was Andre Franklin from? Pretty sure he wasn't from NE, but I'm not 100% positive about that. Did Mark Schelene play any pro ball? Someone make a complete list. Trash? Sabado?

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:22PM CST mmm...I thought Keith Jones broke that record, maybe it was the hundred meters. Oh yeah Jay Novaceck for the Cowboys from Oshkosh, NE I believe ...TE, but I was talking RB's strictly. His little Bro Bump was a quite the Pole vaulter, don't think he did much at TE, maybe I'm wrong on that, I didn't pay much attention for a few years back then.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:25PM CST Kent McCloughan graduated the same year as Sayers. He was from Broken Bow, and great athlete, he was all State in football, a great running back, A real good basketball and baseball player. Great in track, ran a 9.6 100. He was know in high school as not have a very good work ethic, got by on his talent. When he got to Nebraska, he learned he had to work hard to play. Was a outstanding Defensive Back and had a nice career with the Raiders. While not a close friend, I did know him personally when he was in High School. Cocky as all get out. Girls just seemed to gravitate toward him.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:25PM CST I'm almost 100% positive Jones went over 23 feet his Junior and Senior year in the long Jump and around 10.2 in the hundred. Dude was fast in the 60 meters indoor too.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:27PM CST They ran the Hundred yard dash back then didn't they?

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 7:28PM CST rluben... For some reason my memory tells me Franklin was from Alabama.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 7:33PM CST Russ, Ken Clark played at Bryan. The only thing wrong with recruiting a player like Bubba is if he doesn't play for the Huskers we wasted a space for someone else. Jumbo, I agree with what PT said about Bo not leaving DONU unless we run him off.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:35PM CST K thanks cstxfn Here's something interesting I just found. Fabian Washington is tied for 2nd fastest recorded NFL combine 40 yd dash time since they went to electronic timing in 1999. He ran a 4.25, the fastest is 4.24 shared by two dudes. That's flying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:36PM CST Novaceck was from Gothenburg Russ. I think his dad coached there, track I believe. No Sayers had that for years. I looked it up. A Robert Rands, broke Gale Sayers record in 2005 with a long jump of 25ft and 1/4 inch. Sayers previous had the record at 24 ft 10 1/2 inches way back in 1961. So Sayers held the record for 44 years. Amazing.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:38PM CST Another interesting stat from that list, The Raiders have drafted 5 of those players listed in the top 10 fastest 40 times since 2005.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:41PM CST Gothenburg sounds right, not sure why I thought Oshkosh.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 7:42PM CST If the koolaid is working tonight you may like this http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/29044/cornhuskers-make-simulated-rose-bowl

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:43PM CST Does Jones hold the 100 meter record? Ok, But I'm pretty sure he went over 23'...close to 24' unless my memory is wrong.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:53PM CST All-Class State Record 10.5, Kelly Yancy, Omaha Central, 1989 That's weird, I coulda swore Jones ran a faster time than that, heck by best friend ran 11.1 and he was 3rd or 4th fasted at our Lincoln High. Oh well, guess I must remember wrong. He was stil fast though.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:54PM CST Here is the all time top 10 Nebraska times in the 100 meter. 1. Scott Yank, LSE 10.3 2. Cole Biodrowski, Fort Calhoun 10.3 3. Willie Vinson, Omaha Burke 10.4 4. George Beckwork, Omaha Flanagan 10.4 5. Ronnie Doss, Omaha Benson 10.4 6. Ahman Green, Omaha Central 10.4 7. Eric Crouch, Milliard North 10.4 8. Broc Howard, Kearney 10.4 9. Andrew Shanle, St. Edward 10.4 10. Eric Meyer, Logan View 10.4

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 7:55PM CST another great back we missed out on. He was a Freshman at Florida in 1987. It was between him and another back whose name I do not remember. the other guy committed first and EMMITT SMITH went to Florida. Can anyboy remember who we took that year?

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:56PM CST Source the Omaha World Herald and the Nebraska Athletic High School Association.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 7:58PM CST Hmmmm.... I don't know, I think that state record list is jacked...I seem to recall watching Kent Wells break Larry Station & Marty Kobza's Shot Put records. The way I remember it is Wells went over 67' feet more than once...but it was a long time ago...maybe it was in the 65' something range. Shot Put-Boys 2010 Gold Medal Winner 62-6 3/4, Christopher Reed, Omaha Central All-Class State Record 66-11 1/2, Marty Kobza, Schuyler, 1981 All-Class State Meet Record 63-7 1/2, Lucas Pinkelman, Cozad, 2007 A/St-64-9 1/2, Larry Station, Omaha Central, 1982 A/SM-62-11 1/2, Larry Station, Omaha Central, 1982 B/St-66-11 1/2, Marty Kobza, Schuyler, 1981 B/SM-63-7 1/2, Lucas Pinkelman, Cozad, 2007 C/St-62-10, Cassidy Kramer, West Holt, 2003 C/SM-61-6 1/4, Phil Lueking, Southern Valley, 1997 D/St-63-1 1/4, Steve Kriewald, North Loup-Scotia, 2000 D/SM-63-1 1/4, Steve Kriewald, North Loup-Scotia, 2000

Posted by: Islander/Husker on July 11, 2011 7:59PM CST PT I do not but TO recruited Emmit pretty hard, and Nebraska was #2 on Smith's list. We did have a chance.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:01PM CST Russ, help me out. Who was the back that aced us out of Emmitt?

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:03PM CST Ok now I know that list is jacked because I'm pretty sure Bump Novaceck went over 16' in the vault in '85, maybe not at state but sometime during the season. http://www.nsaahome.org/textfile/track/trstrec.htm Maybe that Seth Burney dude broke his record or something, not sure what class Gothenburg was and is.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:07PM CST I checked Huskerpedia. I think it was Leodis Flowers. One of three backs taken in that class.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:08PM CST Rl they were B. Now C1.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:08PM CST Heck I/H, the two lists we used can't even agree on the fastest times, the one. I found says it was updated Updated on 6/3/10 The fastest 100 time they list is 10.5 by Yancy. I think both lists are jacked an unofficial. 100-Meter Dash-Boys 2010 Gold Medal Winner 10.74, Daniel Davie, Beatrice All-Class State Record 10.5, Kelly Yancy, Omaha Central, 1989 All-Class State Meet Record 10.60, Rick Davis, Omaha Creighton Prep, 1987; 10.60, Ronnie Doss, Omaha Benson, 1993 A/St-10.5, Kelly Yancy, Omaha Central, 1989 A/SM-10.60, Rick Davis, Omaha Creighton Prep, 1987; 10.60, Ronnie Doss, Omaha Benson, 1993 B/St-10.67, Tirus Meaders, Boys Town, 2007 BSM-10.67, Tirus Meaders, Boys Town, 2007 C/St-10.80, Cole Biodrowski, Fort Calhoun, 2000 C/SM-10.80, Cole Biodrowski, Fort Calhoun, 2000 D/St-10.85, Nate Probasco, Scribner-Snyder, 2001 D/SM-10.85, Nate Probasco, Scribner-Snyder, 2001

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 8:09PM CST PT, would that be George Achola?

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:10PM CST I don't know without looking it up I/H...about the tailback in '87, I wasn't paying attention to NE football much then.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:13PM CST wacky, He was in that class as well. but I think flowers was the "get"

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:15PM CST Flowers sounds right to me.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:18PM CST Was he from Omaha, wonder if he was related to Trenton Flowers.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:21PM CST Yup. Running back High.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 8:23PM CST After you said Flowers, I think you are right, at least it rings a bell.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 8:23PM CST BubbaBAM!!! 1. College vs. Pro baseball...Ummm...Why can't he go to College and get his degree and have some fun AFTER he leaves the Pros? Is it really one or the other? Haven't others? 2. Getting real about going back to college to play Football AFTER a Pro baseball career...Ummm...Why can't he do that as well? Haven't others?

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 8:28PM CST While looking for more info on Flowers I found this which is interesting, at least to me it is. http://www.huskerlocker.com/blogs/view/bid/2575/i/recruiting_the_osborne_record/o/0

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 8:31PM CST This in particular is good to look at A golden era in Omaha: I don’t know about the overall quality of football, but 1987-1997, Omaha produced a healthy number of top-shelf talent at skill positions - all scholarship players, all earning two letters or more - on top of offensive and defensive linemen recruited out of the area. 1987: Leodis Flowers, Omaha Central, George Achola, Prep 1990: Calvin Jones, Central 1991: Tony Veland, Omaha Benson, Clester Johnson, Bellevue West 1992: Damon Benning, Omaha Northwest, Clinton Childs, Omaha North 1993: Vershan Jackson, Omaha South, Lance Brown, Papillion 1995: Ahman Green, Central 1996: Willie Miller, Bellevue West, John Gibson, Papillion 1997: Eric Crouch, Millard North Do you know how many scholarship skill players from the Omaha area have earned just one letter out of the previous five recruiting classes? Niles Paul. That’s the list! Extend that list to 2003, and you only add two more players: Cortney Grixby and Tierre Green. That’s seven recruiting classes, and three contributing scholarship skill players from Omaha. And two of them played mostly on defense. Guys like Collins Okafor (2008) and CJ Zimmerer (2009) are seemingly well down the depth chart. Okafor already left NU once for a day. Unless Nebraska makes a late, unlikely offer to Millard South’s Bronson Marsh, NU won’t have any scholarship players from Omaha in 2010. What happened in the River City? Television happened. Video games. Stressed-out families. A disintegration of the city center. Benson, Northwest and South can’t field competitive football teams. Other sports go year-round, and rob football of its some of skill talent. And some skill players? Nebraska just didn’t want them - or they didn’t want Nebraska. The Prater twins out of Central both went to Iowa. Millard North’s Adam Shada and Jeff Tarpinian both headed to Iowa, too. Omaha North quarterback Philip Bates went to Iowa State, then Ohio. Central quarterback Daryle Hawkins went to Oregon. Westside tight end Tim Biere starts at Kansas. The point is: Osborne didn’t have this problem. Frank Solich not so much either. Callahan appeared to start a trend, or at least be witness to it, while Pelini definitely lives with it.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:33PM CST http://www.nsaahome.org/textfile/track/trdrec.htm Guess Bump has class B district record at 16'-0" Man my memory must be bad, I coulda swore he went well over 16'...something like 16'-7" in '85 at a meet. Track and Field District Performances Pole Vault-Boys A-16-1, Scott Nachtigal, Kearney, 1995 B-16-0, Bump Novacek, Gothenburg, 1985; 16-0, Seth Burney, Beatrice, 2005 & 2006 C-15-9, T.J. Kloster, Arlington, 1997 D-14-1/2, Jeff Walker, Amherst, 1978

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 8:39PM CST Wacky: Video looked good but I don't see the Ducks getting that far. Will they not be on sanctions for the recruiting fiasco that happened ? Blue pickup I think was a Dodge.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:40PM CST Oh Ok Clark was from Bryan, I knew it started with a B...head injures and all, my memory aint too dang bad.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 8:47PM CST BR1, I just liked seeing someone else drinking the koolaid and seeing the Huskers picked to make the Rose Bowl, even if they screwed up the opponent and outcome of the game. I was wondering if it could have been a Dodge, maybe a 36 or 37?

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:48PM CST Kent Wells, Lincoln East, 1985.......................63- 7  I think maybe he threw farther in a summer track meet or an AAU meet, that's probably what I'm remembering, wasn't an official Nebraska HS track meet....or I'm just way off.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 8:54PM CST Tony Jordan, Lincoln High, 1985.......................48-4½ Hah, went to school with Tony Jordan, tried to dunk over me once in a pickup game. That didn't go the way he planned. probably the highest I ever jumped, because I forgot I couldn't jump that high for a second.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 8:56PM CST This may be a first on the LITR. Track and field.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 9:01PM CST PT, nobody can say LITR does not offer diversity, LOL, as has been said before, it is like a coffee shop.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:04PM CST Wacky, no politics thank God. Or very little.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:06PM CST Wacky: Not 100% positive. Went to show Saturday morning right after it rained. Most placard's were not put out on vehicles as they were wiping down cars from the rain.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:06PM CST Interesting read wacky. I still beleive My HS QB would have given Steve Taylor a little run for his money, I played with both, bot fast, maybe Steve just a little faster, both ok throwing the ball, both shifty and elusive. Would have been fun seeing them compete, but Brian McWilliams went to West Point, plus I think maybe NE was recruiting him as a DB. Not 100% confident on that, but that's what I think was the case. I know he had a a lot of national interest, seemed like he was always getting letters from just about everyone...imagine that, back then the college coaches sent letters to the HS coaches to give to the players. Now they text them, facebook them, email them, call them on their cells, video conference blah blah.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:07PM CST Evening boys...it seems this thread has take off a bit. Memory issues...hmmm.

Posted by: colter on July 11, 2011 9:07PM CST shoot, I'd do it for 100,000. just kiddn' good to see you all still on here

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:10PM CST Howdy colter. How's life?

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:12PM CST lol I/H I was bored, sorry about the Track n Field stuff from my days. Kinda tired of Bubba this Bubba that, and other somewhat meaningless offseason topics. Figured I'd add my own meaningless topic and see how bad my memory is at the same time.

Posted by: colter on July 11, 2011 9:14PM CST br1, livn' the highlife up here in Sioux Falls for about seven weeks, then maybe to Bismarck, ND for good. New job, in training. Lots of Huskers up here in Sioux Falls. I still pick up Omaha 590 am and 1110 am. happy as a priest on Sunday.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:14PM CST hi coach: Sounds like some type of gig you will get signed for soon.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 9:15PM CST Leave the politics out of here, that would ruin the fun.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:16PM CST No memory issues coach, they just apparently didn't keep accurate records before 1990. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. I'm not crazy, you're crazy ~~~~~~ "In a fair fight I'd kill you" "Well now, that's not much incentive to fight fair, now is it?"

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:18PM CST BR1, the wife still working your behind off in the new digs?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:18PM CST br1...now that's funny right there. Mine's closer to $6.25...that is six dollars and twenty five cents. I saw 'Cars 2' today, just had to toss that in there. Good movie if you like the Pixar stuff.

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 9:18PM CST Coach, it sounds like they are holding you out to the last minute, hope one of them decides to do it before your deadline.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:20PM CST I spent most my summers as a youth in Spencer, SD. I think about a half hour from Souix Falls, seemed like longer the time I used my head to stop a bat playing fill in catcher.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:25PM CST Pt: Oh yes she is. Decided she did not like rose bushes so I was volunteered Sunday to dig them up. Got 2 dug up and was working on the third when I broke the handle off the shovel. This Sunday we are doing some grass seeding and some bird feeder stand building. Keeping busy.

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:28PM CST It's amazing I can even kind of remember anything all the head injuries I've had. Close is good enough for me considering.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 9:29PM CST welcome to the wonderful world of home ownership. LOL

Posted by: rluben on July 11, 2011 9:30PM CST As long as the brain kinda works ok, I guess I should feel lucky.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:31PM CST PT: Has been fun so far. Wish I would of done this several years back.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:32PM CST wacky...they are definitely doing that. I don't really understand it but it is what it is.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:37PM CST br1...I should have had you come and trim my trees for me today...and replace 3 fence posts tomorrow...and put wood flooring in the computer room on Saturday...need I go on?

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:40PM CST Nope that sounds like quite a list there.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:45PM CST Just stuff that needs to get done before A) I get another job and go to work, or B) football starts, which is two weeks from today.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 9:50PM CST As long as we ae off topic now, and I've already posted a comment...fo what it may be worth... May I share an experience I had a few days ago? It is not Sports related. Some may call it political in nature, but it is not about current Politics. I would just like you opinions on the matter. So, may I?

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 9:52PM CST It was a personal experience I had at the gas station a few days ago.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:53PM CST Surely you're jesting? But go ahead anyway .

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 9:55PM CST You may. Please...let it fly, Bubba's horse has been soundly beaten.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 9:55PM CST What was her name ? LOL

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 10:03PM CST Baited breath.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 10:05PM CST Now thats funny right there !

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 10:08PM CST Took the words right out of my mouth br1!

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 10:08PM CST BR1, to satisfy my curiousity I googled a 1938 Dodge pickup and it appears to be the same as the blue one in your pictures.

Posted by: PT Husker on July 11, 2011 10:08PM CST RG if ya don't tell your story I am gonna have to go to bed. LOL

Posted by: wacky4huskers on July 11, 2011 10:10PM CST Good night all.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 10:11PM CST Wacky: I thought it was a late 30's or early forties Dodge. Was a very nice truck.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 10:16PM CST Night wacky.

Posted by: big red 1 on July 11, 2011 10:17PM CST All for one and one for all ! Night yall

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 10:20PM CST RG.... Don't make me call Lincoln 9-1-1 to make sure your ok.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 10:24PM CST Night br1.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 10:31PM CST Thank you, b1, and anyone else, I was in line to get gas since I had let it get below "E" (don't do that often). Both sides of the pump wee full. A tuck came on the other side of the pump and stopped on my right. The diver then stated to yell at me to "GO!! You stupid piece of sh#!", apparently thinking that I meant to go straight and out of the station. I got a bit hot under the collar and yelled back, pointing to the cars still pumping gas "I'm going over there! You stupid F#@k!"..."you tun signal isn't on you***" You get the idea...lots of swearing... "Well, neither is yous...screeching tires, he flies around me, brakes had into a parking spot, still yelling obscenities...comes out of his tuck carrying a gas can and proceeds to fill it as I pump gas into my ca..."I'm sick and tired of you ******* ****** ****** foreigners coming over here and acting like **** Half of you are ******* Illegals anyway!!" me: "Wow! You've got it all figured ou, dontcha, big guy?!" "You know it all!". Him: "Yeah I know a lot! I know I was born in this country!" Me: "Well you just won the F****** Lottery, Didn'tcha?! While I was too stupid to manage to get myself bon here instead of here! I've only been here for over 40 yeas but that don't mean nothin'!" He didn't say anything and went inside to pay. When my tank was full, I too went in. To his credit, he tuned around and apologized saying he'd had a hard day. I accepted his apology and shook hands with him. Then he asked/told me You was born here weren't ya?" I said no, I had spent my fist 10 yeas in India. He waved that aside and continued..."You know who is REALLY racist?!" "I don't know...who do you believe to be really racist?" "Them Indians!" "I'm Indian." Him waving that off "NO. Them natives whatever you want to call 'em...they're all racist! I work with some!" I didn't know what to say...I mean, he had no clue of the irony of it being racist to claim a whole race of people as racists! I know I shouldn't have yelled and sworn back, I usually don't...I've heard people who know me explain to people that "It's part of his religion"...it's not...just a personal choice to not yell and swear...but it has been a while since I've confronted an openly racist person going off on me!...maybe I should have thanked him for openly saying this stuff to my face, rather than mumbled behind my back... If you had been in my place, what would you have done.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 10:33PM CST Sory it took me so long to type that...All of a sudden the "R" key on my keyboad stated to stick...Is my keyboad being acist?! ;)

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 10:42PM CST Wow RG, that's a tough one. Really hard for me to say without being placed in the situation. I am typically not one to yell, but rather speak softer to try to bring the yeller down to my tone. If he was threatening in a way that you thought he might resort to physical violence I guess you could have called the police...that could be classified as a hate crime.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 10:44PM CST LOL! Soy, guys! I just went back and read all of you comments...some of you must think me to be some piece of work! I'll ty to mention to you to refer back to these posts tomorrow, just so you know I didn't leave you all hanging for nothing

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 10:45PM CST I don't have much tolerance for people like that. It's one thing to think what you think but the situation changes entirely when you choose to voice those ill gotten thoughts.

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 10:49PM CST Bubba could enroll in classes TM could improve improve his passing and make highlight express (Bree-on) could press for the starting spot The Blackshirts could stop a premier running back Bondi could step right into Henreys shoes The Huskers could wake up in Indy 12 & 0 or 11-1 optimism is high in this camp

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 10:52PM CST Dangit RG, it hurts when I hear stories like that. Road rage at a gas station? A closet racist having a bad day? In the town I grew up in in Nebraska, the minorities were the Polish folks on the other side of town. Hell of a world out there sometimes and hope you have things that off set that kind of experience.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 10:52PM CST GBR, When he came towads the pumps where I was I kinda opened up my eyes up a bit wide, but when he went to fill it I relaxed a bit...then the thought occurred to me that "Whoa, now it does have gas in it!"...but then he went in. I don't know if it was because I was 10-15 yeas younger, a few inches taller, and probably had 60 to 80 pounds on him...he didn't know that I have a pinched nerve in my back and couldn't have done much with my legs...

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 10:57PM CST just read your post RG sorry to hear that

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:03PM CST Thanks, guys, Like I said, most of the stuff usually goes unsaid, but the glares, and reactions fom people...power locks all go click sometimes when I coss the street in front of cars...mostly small stuff that i just sigh and let pass...in a strange way it was funny and almost refreshing to hear the stuff openly, rathe than just guessing at the words rolling aound in thei heads...pretty good guesses in my opinion...then I hea people say that the "race cad" gets pulled too often...maybe, but how would someone know to what extent it is "too often" if they have neverr experienced it? 10% more than necessay? 90%?

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:04PM CST regardless I feel we will have at least 2 1,000 yard rushers this year & maybe a viable passing game

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 11:05PM CST RG, what you experienced should never happen. It's inexcuseable. Hopefully there's not a next time, but if there is, just take out your phone state 'I'm dialing 911, I refuse to be a victim of a hate crime!' Now, shut up...back off...or go to jail...you choose!

Posted by: GBR in Texas on July 11, 2011 11:13PM CST boom...I can agree with that. I need to get to bed, the grand daughter will be here at 6 am. If I don't get enough rest she'll walk all over me. Who am I kidding...she walks all over me anyway, I'm a pushover. Night guys.

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:13PM CST good advise GBR RG no amount of remorse makes up for his attitude & mind set As it is negative and contemptious & generally un-American

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:14PM CST 99.999% of the time I just tun the cheek and become the peace maker...but not this time. Is it bad that it felt good fo a few minutes to stiffen my back and holler back with all of the other customers standing around slack jawed just staring? I don't think so...but I hope not to make a habit of it...although, I have to admit, sometimes it is a bit defeating and feels cowardly to walk away. "Sometimes you can hea them talk...other times you can't...same old cliches...is that an a-rab or a Mexi-can..." sorry to the writer of the song...lol. Waddyagonnado...

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 11:15PM CST RG...After giving it some thought, I looked at the last sentence in your story. "If you had been in my place, what would you have done". Tough one for an old white guy like me. Couldn't possibly say what I would do, or find a similar experience outside of something I could laugh off. I know what it feels like to be looked down on for a few stupid things, but it doesn't compare very well. Depending on my mood or the circumstances at the times I was confronted, my reactions were varied. Not everyone is Chuck Norris and if common sense doesn't remind you of that, then you can wind up as a stupid tragedy. Glad you came out of it without consequences that you hear about all the time.

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:15PM CST night all I just thought i'd check in as football season is coming

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:17PM CST and you always feel outnumbered and you don't dare make a stand

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 11:25PM CST RG... That's a good one-liner that boomboom just said. I need to hit the sack myself but will send you a message soon as I can. I can tell you're bugged by this and you need to blow it off as soon as you can. Not forget it, but blow it off.

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:26PM CST boom, Maybe it's just the Kool Aid talking, but I eally feel good about this season. Last yea stated out so good, until Matinez got hut and the offensive line would just chest bump the opponent and stand aound and look fo the ball carier...I swea I think it confused some of the Defenses..."why did this dude just gab me and keep me fom falling?" j/k I think ou Offense will impove significantly as will the D...I just see the upside I guess and ignoe the downside...I don't know if it will bw 14-0, but I know it will be bette than 10-4. Every win over 10 fo me will just be more icing on the cake...and that means something to a fat man! lol...

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:27PM CST you weren't on a long and lonely highway east of omaha were you RG?

Posted by: cstxfn on July 11, 2011 11:29PM CST RG.... Here are a few "r',s for you to borrow. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:29PM CST oh this new conference alignment and all the other possibilities! exciting times I say

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:33PM CST boom, Yeah, I meant to wite that down, but...I guess my bain decided to conveniently foget that line as I was typing...lol Hmmm...I wonder why...maybe I need to call that therapist guy that posts here every once in a while...any one emember the number?

Posted by: boomboom on July 11, 2011 11:36PM CST im sure THERAPIST will be back I enjoyed his advise to trolls

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:40PM CST "Here I am...being brown again...here I aaaaam...turn the page..." I actually lived in Griswold, IA for a year or so...and used to hear the song on the radio all the time.

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 11, 2011 11:40PM CST lubes- I was on the Irene golf course the night that Spencer Sd was wiped out by a tornado. back in 98-99...can't remember off the top of my head...we watched it happen as the storm was moving NE and we were SE of it...small, small, town. No wonder you're so hard headed

Posted by: RedGore on July 11, 2011 11:47PM CST Here's to putting the past aside and looking forward to all of the new beginnings, boomboom! Exciting barely covers it... "To Boldly Go Where No Husker Has Gone Before..." Oof! That was bad!

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 12:07AM CST Thanks fo reminding me that I wanted to comment to lube, Doc...Glad it missed you...

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 12:16AM CST lubes, I have a friend who always says "We all have our bears to cross, (my name)." He should know...he lived in Alaska for 10 years...lol He too is a head injury survivor...he's hell of an artist...if you ever are in Lincoln, check out the murals in Dougan's Pub and most of the bars between there and The Night Before... Sh# happens and life goes on. Or it doesn't. Either way, you move on.

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 12:30AM CST GBR, Good advice. Usually I just calmly walk away with my back straight with purpose and no hurry other than intent. Sometimes I'll look at them and smile and wave as I walk away like they just said "Have a nice day!" to me. That usually confuses the bastards! I know that for the vast majority of the times it's just a dog barking and there is no bite. But sometimes you have to step up and yell at the incessantly barking dog to shock it into shutting up. And yes, you have to pick your spots.

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 1:06AM CST cst, By the way, You asked for a recipe on the last thread...I left you one there. And thanks for the concern, I'll be ok. Just had to let some steam off. This stuff happens all of the time...I just deal with it the best I can in the moment. He told me that his ancesters were English and German, and he was quick to point out that they were Legal Immigrants! I wish I'd had a smart phone so I could have show him this...Please pay close attention to what Ben Franklin had to say about German immigrants... http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/lessons/a-cold-reception-anti-immigrant-sentiment-in-the-united-states/video-segments/221/ Did you perchance get to finish that article I had given you a link to? (about the history of immigration in this country?)

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 1:34AM CST Here's more of what he wrote... "Those that come hither [German immigrants] are generally of the most ignorant Stupid sort of their own Nation…. Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it… I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them… They begin of late to make all their Bonds and other legal Writings in their own Language…and I suppose in a few years [interpreters] will be also necessary in the Assembly, to tell one half of our Legislators what the other half say; in short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other Colonies…they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not [be] …able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious." Source: Benjamin Franklin letter to Peter Collinson, May 9, 1753 as cited in J. A. Leo Lemay (ed.), Reappraising Benjamin Franklin: A Bicentennial Perspective (Newark: University of Delaware Press, 1993), p. 336.

Posted by: TomOs on July 12, 2011 7:56AM CST So lets say... the impossible happens.. and Bubba stays at NU for at least 3 years.. (next draft for him)... Bo when recruiting him, said he would be on the field, no redshirt, would not be sitting the bench... where would he play, or how would you play him.. to make an immediate impact?? Receiver, QB, or defense..?

Posted by: Denver Bob on July 12, 2011 8:40AM CST TomOs...... When Kansas was good for a couple of years, Beck used their former starting QB as a receiver. He caught a bunch of balls (absolutely uncanny about getting open) and then threw some passes to surprise the defenses. I could see Bubba doing that. Oh well, Bubba is going to be a Royal and I hope he makes it to The Show. GBR!

Posted by: Country Husker on July 12, 2011 9:25AM CST Who cares what Tom and Craig said on ESPN? Is that supposed to impress somebody? Perhaps an education and an opportunity to play Division 1 college football could be gained at NU, but hey, money is everything, eh? Sheesh.

Posted by: TomOs on July 12, 2011 9:26AM CST My guess if Bubba would stay is... who is backing up Jamal Turner in the slot.. thought he could play that position, run, catch, reverses, trick pass, could run a wildcat package.. just wondering where or how Bo would use him..

Posted by: Trashman on July 12, 2011 10:05AM CST CH I agree on your "money isn't everything" comments....but we're not just talkin' 1-2mil. What we're hearing is in the 7mil range. In that case, Bubba could say, play out 3 or so years of the contract and perhaps earn 5mil. If he's not happy, organize and invest your money and come back to NU as a 21 year old. He could likely be well set for life and still get his degree playing in the scarlet and cream. Maybe the experiences in the minors add to the maturity factor and we get to watch an unbelievable player. Or he just explodes into MLB.....seems pretty simple.

Posted by: Trashman on July 12, 2011 10:21AM CST I guess I just look at it as a "security blanket" or a retirement fund if you will. I mean, let's say I love golf and fishing and am damn good at both (well, better than DBP and PT at least). Then Nike and Titleist offer to sponser me for Bubba money while I work on the game on the Nationwide. After a couple years I get the "chili dips" and "yips" and can't take it. I can go: "oh yeah, that free paid education at LSU is available for me to major in Angling". Sweet. So hopefully I end up outta college as a vastly improved fisherman to hopefully make the B.A.S.S. If not, I can buy a house on a river or a lake and guide the rest of my life with the nicest equipment and education. Man, that all sounded too perfect....and kinda made me sad.

Posted by: TomOs on July 12, 2011 10:28AM CST If Bubba comes to NU.. plays BB and FB.. gets injured, or doesnt pan out in either sport.. you could say he ... royal ly.. screwed up

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on July 12, 2011 11:10AM CST Trash you could also build a driving range at this hunting/fishing lodge and give lessons...if you ever win the lottery and decide to go with this plan, send me an application for employment please...

Posted by: Trashman on July 12, 2011 11:38AM CST Doc You are #1 on the list. I will likely have to give CH a long look as well as he seems a little less concerned with money. Tough economy ya know.....

Posted by: Country Husker on July 12, 2011 1:14PM CST Sorry, Trash, I already signed a letter of intent to coach Little League baseball after retirement. It pays even less.

Posted by: Trashman on July 12, 2011 1:22PM CST CH I've been there....you are correct.

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 1:57PM CST Country, Please check your messages for responses.

Posted by: RedGore on July 12, 2011 1:59PM CST Trash, I've never heard back from you whether or not you've received my messages...

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 12, 2011 2:43PM CST Does Bo or the LJS staff have any 7 on 7 practice reports they can give us on how Bubba is progressing? The world wants to know and I'm sure MBH is on the edge of his seat somewhere. ;)

Posted by: ShawneeHusker on July 12, 2011 2:53PM CST Restating my earlier point, I question the effectiveness of a "high profile" football recruit ( Bubba ) participating in Husker baseball thereby missing spring football. Other than Coach Erstad, who else at NU has done this and reached their potential on the football field? The quarterback position is difficult to master with maximum coach contact time. To Silicon Valley Husker, I appreciate your Chris Weinke comparison but I believe he entered MLB out of high school, got as high as AA and then entered FSU and did not play baseball at FSU

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 12, 2011 3:32PM CST Shawnee...that's correct. I agree that someone who is skipping spring ball at the QB position will fall behind. I assume that Bo hopes that this is one of those things that will work itself out and he will choose a priority. I remember reading that when they pitched to him, they had TO there as well as Bo and the baseball coach and they showed him a schedule of what he would do for practice every day of his first 2 years.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on July 12, 2011 3:55PM CST Shawnee...I can't remember the full context. My point was that Bubba could go try baseball now, make a pile of money and come back for football if baseball didn't pan out.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 12:50AM CST I really, sincerely like and appreciate Bubba&Fam. Mom, Dad, Sisters...they sound like Corn Collar folk. And...getting a schollie at DONU...going to school...the friends ...the young girls...a B1G diploma ...2 SPORT STUD...play for BOBECK *&* Erstad... tough decision and i wish him well...all the best if he's a royal...but that whole fam would really be happy with Corn Nation, too imho.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 12:53AM CST M A J O R L E A G U E B R E A K I N G B A L L

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 12:59AM CST you'll spend a lot of years riding bus after bus after bus after FREAKING BUS if you can't hit them ! some of the best hitters EVER in MLB learned how to hit'tem at University...and College life ALWAYS beats out the Minors as far as life-spent goes imo.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 1:06AM CST TomOs on July 12, 2011 7:56AM CST ** first off, he's returning kicks and punts with Turner. second, he's Mr. Wildcat. Min. 10 snaps per game. can you imagine...the weapons we are fielding on O this year ??

Posted by: TomOs on July 13, 2011 9:24AM CST LSK... yes I would think there would be a wildcat package of plays for him... also maybe in the slot, reverses, short passes.. option play... just guesses.. a versitile athlete like him, need to get him on the field, in different positions, would deal the D fits..

Posted by: festusmonroe on July 13, 2011 12:17PM CST I don't understand the idea of using Bubba for a wildcat package. Whether Martinez or Carnes is the starter, they're both top-notch running QBs already, and they'll have had a lot of reps throwing, too. Unless Bubba can run circles around those guys, you don't gain anything. If you take out your starter and put in Bubba to run the wildcat, you're basically telling the defense, "Hey, we're putting in our third string QB to run a zone read!"

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 12:31PM CST Tits/Carnes and Bubba in the game with (and/or) Super Rex/Green/Reed/Turner/Bell/Abdullah/Kinnie ? Even I could score were I Beck...

Posted by: Country Husker on July 13, 2011 1:47PM CST I say we give Bubba a redshirt year and a year or two of back-up duty before we put the entire load of winning the Heisman and carrying our team to a championship, eh fellas? I definitely would not expect to see him on the football field right out of high school. Sheesh.

Posted by: Tice on July 13, 2011 1:58PM CST Starling told the Star: “I don’t think the Royals want to see me up there.” He's going to play baseball. Just maximizing his bonus. Boras has it all figured out. Everything he has said and done to this point is precisely what one would do to maximize profit and create a sterling image.

Posted by: Country Husker on July 13, 2011 2:12PM CST You say sterling, I say Starling.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 3:12PM CST play him right away...best athlete his age in a decade or more.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on July 13, 2011 4:03PM CST he needs to hang out...enjoy Link during the summer.