Life in the Red Group

Posted by: Outside The Box on June 9, 2010 3:51PM CST Parlimentary Procedure, baby!

Posted by: Bullmoose06 on June 9, 2010 3:52PM CST How long does it take to talk this over?

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 3:54PM CST Section 1.6 of the Board Bylaws (identifying matters that require Board approval) do not appear to require formal Board approval of NU switching conferences. However, since the Board is Perlman's boss, it is vital that he keep it informed as to anything as significant as this decision. Having the Board's express support would be a huge CYA for Perlman.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 9, 2010 3:57PM CST First and goal with inches to go.... Think we punch it in?

Posted by: HuskerBruin on June 9, 2010 4:02PM CST Chip Brown = journalistic fail!

Posted by: nrmnhskr on June 9, 2010 4:04PM CST What season would we likely begin Big 10 play?

Posted by: Egregious Error on June 9, 2010 4:05PM CST I thought Chip Brown, was bad english for cow pie.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 9, 2010 4:09PM CST Agreed on Chip Brown... He is always close and around it, but rarely nails it I doubt in will be going to the NY Times anytime soon

Posted by: SoDakHusker on June 9, 2010 4:19PM CST pacer: I think the process in this case is that the AD recommends the action, the Chancellor approves the action, and the Board ratifies the action as representatives of the people of the State of Nebraska. In cases like these the Chancellor has done much of the behind-the-scenes work, so the Board will likely follow whatever course of action he recommends as long as he persuades the Board that the action is beneficial for the University of Nebraska - Lincoln.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 4:30PM CST SoDakHusker -- Could very well be. Particularly the AD to Chancellor linkage. In any event, Perlman would be foolish to push it through without the Board's support. fwiw, here's Sec. 1.6: 1.6 Board Approval Required. Approval of the Board shall be required for: (a) The submission of the annual request for operating funds and capital improvements to the Governor or the State Legislature; (b) Appointments of administrative officers at the rank of dean or equivalent ranks and above as provided by Section 3.2 of these Bylaws; and (c) The creation of any new teaching department or school or division or any administrative unit of the University, or the consolidation or elimination of any such administrative unit; provided, however, that the Board may delegate to the President and the campus Chancellors approval authority as it deems appropriate.

Posted by: NUwindow on June 9, 2010 4:42PM CST LJS - could you sprinkle some football news or human interest article about a player...or SOMETHING other than this constant realignment crap...it's mentally and emotionally draining.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 4:44PM CST I imagine the board is trying as much possible to keep their hands off this one and allow T.O. and Perlman to take care of it, as stated above. Just a simple technicality, CYA. Wasn't there an article out there that said a press conference could come as soon as today? With all the smoke that's out there, there must be a fire.

Posted by: Outside The Box on June 9, 2010 4:45PM CST Not to mention devastating to my productivity :)

Posted by: SoDakHusker on June 9, 2010 4:46PM CST Nebraska has a really good open records policy, and something as big as this would be foolish to be decided in a back room somewhere. You're right pacer, give testimony for the record and have the Board make action as a CYA. Definately not a dumb move, even if unneccessary. Very likely today's phone meeting was to prep the Board and their lawyers or to steer them in the direction they want them to go on Friday.

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 4:47PM CST Breaking news on espn take a look guys. i imagine u know what its about

Posted by: SoDakHusker on June 9, 2010 4:51PM CST befuddledsker - Strasburg just struck out Kobe and won the Stanley Cup on his way to signing Lebron?

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on June 9, 2010 4:52PM CST all over the internet. Its done deal and they dont want loser mizzou.

Posted by: Redrickman on June 9, 2010 4:52PM CST Seen that too befud. Wonder where these orangeblood.comers gettin their inside info.

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on June 9, 2010 4:52PM CST source close to big ten says they only want nebraska and thats it.

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on June 9, 2010 4:53PM CST they got info from a person very close to the nebraska board of regions.

Posted by: Redrickman on June 9, 2010 4:54PM CST They would take the Domers too, I would imagine..

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 4:55PM CST that too SoDakhusker!!!!!!!

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on June 9, 2010 4:55PM CST No. just neb for now. They said they may add teams down the road which include ND, maryland, and rutgers

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on June 9, 2010 4:57PM CST the source from big ten said nebraska was their first and only choice for immediate plans

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 4:58PM CST Redrickman-orange bloods.com gettin there info from the internetz,and bevo

Posted by: SoDakHusker on June 9, 2010 4:59PM CST Sorry, I get my sports information from Mike & Mike in the AM, and for the hour plus I listened to them today, you would have never known a major football power conference would be imploding before your very eyes.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 9, 2010 4:59PM CST The new Texas 2 step... Nebraska out the door.... CU up and down the road to PAC10 next.... Clap your hands all you Texans out there! Docey Doe Hey Texas and BB Lite, how the Texas grits going down tonight after killing a conference? Hey, how is that Texas TV network coming along? Hey, no hard feelings gentlemen. Whats' a little Texas hold 'em gonna do? Poker anyone? Boys will be boys, right?

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 5:02PM CST epic fail for mizzou though dont u think?

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:05PM CST The BIG 12 is Dead...

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:06PM CST The Huskers are leaving the Big 12 to go to the Big 12. Too bad that league will still be 3rd best after the SEC and Pac 10 after new realignments.

Posted by: RU4NU2 on June 9, 2010 5:08PM CST Chris Mortensen of ESPN is reporting that T.O. has informed his staff that we are moving to the big 10. It on the ESPN ticker. GBR!

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:09PM CST The only thing I can say is... if the Big 10 doesn't create a conference championship... Well, that will be too bad for Nebraska. I will say though, this conference looks good for Nebraska volleyball and basketball... I just can't say the same for football... yet

Posted by: throw46 on June 9, 2010 5:12PM CST husker4-ever....."if the Big 10 doesn't create a conference championship" No problem. Don't see it.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:13PM CST No conference championship would be a bad thing.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 5:14PM CST Conference expansions are over rated.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 9, 2010 5:15PM CST Chicago Tribune. If Chris Mortenson says NU is Big10 bound, book it. He is on the mark +99% of the time with his reporting. The best in the business.... Reports: Nebraska ready to join Big Ten June 9, 2010 4:52 PM | No Comments Staff report Big Red could be headed to the Big Ten. A source close to the Nebraska Board of Regents told Orangebloods.com, a site dedicated to University of Texas sports, that the regents have agreed to move to the Big Ten and that a formal announcement will come Friday. Also ESPN's Chris Mortensen cites a source close to Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne who says Osborne informed athletic staff members within the past 24 hours that the Cornhuskers were going to make the move from the Big 12 to the Big Ten. Book it Dano More on this story to come.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:16PM CST No more Oklahoma rivalry, thats a sad thing. And yes there was an Oklahoma rivalry, whether many of you say there was or not. I guess Iowa will have to do.

Posted by: Trashman on June 9, 2010 5:17PM CST More on this story to come? Doubtful. I'm sure it's all done. Sharsh.

Posted by: salmon_slayer63a on June 9, 2010 5:18PM CST okla killed the rivalry.....they didnt want to play us every year

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:19PM CST Regarding process, this from Ch. 10: "The source indicated the decision of whether or not to leave the Big 12 will be made by Perlman and Osborne and supported by the Board of Regents."

Posted by: PlyNeb on June 9, 2010 5:21PM CST Nebraska thought OU was their rival, but OU did not feel that way about NU. OU's rival is Texass

Posted by: salmon_slayer63a on June 9, 2010 5:22PM CST espn mortensen guy didnt even get where his kid was going to school right.....

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 5:23PM CST I'd like to take a walk outside Memorial Stadium right now. Can't even imagine the van loads of media from across the country swarming the place.

Posted by: Redrickman on June 9, 2010 5:24PM CST Does this mean I have to quit bashing the Big 10 ???

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:26PM CST Redrickman -- Dude, it just UP's the stakes and makes it meaningful!

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 9, 2010 5:26PM CST H4Eva, Have you missed your meds today? OU killed the year to year rivalry. Thier choice. Sorry to say, they wimped out. Took thier little wagon, and went home. Texas is the big rival....we were just a 2nd fiddle. Sooner or later, decisions like these will cost you. Ask OU, Texas and BB Lite.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 5:27PM CST I also read that story on espn.com. Hopefully we can play OU and UT in the Rose Bowl on occasion. Have to admit, playing them or USC in a bowl game sounds like good football to watch.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:31PM CST Wonder how many years USC will have to sit out bowl competition....

Posted by: PT Husker on June 9, 2010 5:36PM CST Pacer, up to 4 according to ESPN

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 9, 2010 5:38PM CST corndevil.......HUH?

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:38PM CST haha listening to some of these comments is just funny. No more comments from me. Its pointless to talk to clueless people.

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 5:39PM CST 4 of the all time winningest programs in 1 conference not bad.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 5:39PM CST A source close to the Texas athletic department as reported that Mack Brown wants NU to give UT one more second to think about their options.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:39PM CST funny and sad. Its amazing what some Nebraska fans actually think.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 9, 2010 5:39PM CST Corndevil: What are you drinking? Lay off the corn whiskey.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:40PM CST NUCORNDEVIL, I think any discussion about 'killing' should focus on UT -- after all, it's already got three notches on its belt -- the SWC, Big 8 and Big 12 -- and now it goes for a fourth!

Posted by: PT Husker on June 9, 2010 5:42PM CST It will be interesting what Texas and the sheep do. It will also be interesting which 7-11 Beebe ends up working in.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 9, 2010 5:42PM CST Pacer I don't think there will be a 4th for Texas. I think they have been told no.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:43PM CST If Notre Dame joins the Big 10, this may actually work out. But if Notre Dame comes, I think Missouri should get in. Then two more teams should be in. Then I think the Big 10 should consider adding the ACC into the conference. Along with half of the Big East teams. Then the Big 10 can go to work on the SEC.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:43PM CST big red 1, by the PAC? I'm all ears.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 9, 2010 5:43PM CST PT: I was thinking along the lines for mr bb a Jack in the Box.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:45PM CST I have a question... What exactly is Nebraska getting out of this deal that they didn't have with the Big 12. Anybody?

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 9, 2010 5:47PM CST If the Big 10 only adds NU the PAC 10 will wait a year or more to move forward on creating a league of 16.....they can slow down and do their research and still get the teams they want...If Big 10 expands to 16 then all bets are off. IMO by 2014 there are at least 4 conferences comprised of 16 teams.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 9, 2010 5:47PM CST Pacer: The last 48 hours Texas has been all puffed up like an Adder and then they come along with a story how they are not the bad guys and then for a little while its all quiet on their part. I think Tom called their bluff and the last nail is being driven into their coffin.

Posted by: befuddledsker on June 9, 2010 5:48PM CST huskers4 eva equal revenue, a network and upgraded research facilitys and better education.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:50PM CST huskers4_eva, Aside from escaping some irritating features of the Big 12, for starters how about: 1. Doubling TV revenues. Remember that the AD ends up contributing something like 1/5th of its revenues to non-sports facilities and programs. 2. Built-in links to serious research opportunities, that can only continue NU's path towards becoming a widely respected research institution. 3. Saturdays in Iowa City, Chicago, Columbus, etc., rather than Lubbuck, Stillwater, Ames. . . . 4. The chance to develop a rivalry with someone a helluva lot more worthy than CU.

Posted by: BobB on June 9, 2010 5:51PM CST AND conference stability.

Posted by: RedBall on June 9, 2010 5:53PM CST Geez! going on 5 hrs now one long call bill.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:53PM CST Why would many highly regarded Texas recruits want to go to Nebraska now? Its not like they're gonna get the chance to play a championship game in Texas where all their families and friends could attend now. Or for that matter at least one regular season game. But at least Nebraska will have a couple more million dollars to spend.

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 5:53PM CST H4eva: Besides the obvious football money, there is research money and the fact that the quality of the university could improve drastically just by being in the big10, the fact that we are relevant again in the college football hemisphere and last but not least the satisfaction of telling texas to go shove it.

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:55PM CST I was hoping Nebraska could tell Texas to go shove it by beating them on the field.

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 5:55PM CST We recruited texas well even before big12 was formed and we didn't play any of the texas teams.

Posted by: BobB on June 9, 2010 5:55PM CST How many recruits are from Texas per year? Bo will still get his share. Some will come now to play in the Big 10!

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 5:56PM CST Oh we will my friend. Oct 16 will get here soon enough

Posted by: BobB on June 9, 2010 5:56PM CST I am already making concessions. I am no longer calling them the Big 10/11!

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 5:57PM CST But maybe I'm backwards on this. I just don't like this geographically. Unless... Unless the Big 10 does something like the SEC with a west and east division. Get the conference up to 16 teams and a conference championship and this looks too good to be true... Until then, all I know is Nebraska is going to a conference with no championship game and for a little more money.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 5:58PM CST huskers4_eva, there are some very interesting and legit discussions going on about recruiting. I've heard persuasive arguments on both sides as to whether this makes our already difficult task easier or harder. Time will tell. fwiw, I heard yet another fourth-hand completely unsubstantiated rumor that, during the meeting TO held with other coaches of all NU sports just as the Big 12 meetings were closing last week, Wats and other said this was going to make recruiting much easier! That's one rumor I hope is accurate.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 5:58PM CST Not to mention more national exposure.

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 5:59PM CST I am sure there will be a conference championship. Although if I recall correctly we didn't want one in the Big12 anyway

Posted by: RedBall on June 9, 2010 6:00PM CST The reason the recruits come here is the coaches, legacy, fans who wouldn't want to say ya I played for NU when we hung one on MU, OSU, PSU, or Hung one on Texas in the rose bowl.

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 6:01PM CST You have to realize that Big10 has no limits on partial qualifiers which Texas demanded when big 12 was first formed. That alone should help our recruiting a lot

Posted by: big red 1 on June 9, 2010 6:01PM CST H4eva NU has recruited from all across the country from schools way farther out than Texas. Florida and California come to mind.r. Do not worry we will not see much of a dropoff on recruits from Texas. Bo can

Posted by: huskers4_eva on June 9, 2010 6:02PM CST Well being in the same conference as Ohio St. will make it harder for Bo to leave Nebraska to coach there at least.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 9, 2010 6:03PM CST explain partial qualifiers please?

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 6:04PM CST huskers4_eva, you sound determined to find a cloud in every silver lining. The Big 10 was forbidden from having a conference championship game because it did not have the minimum 12 teams. Now that it does (we hope), it almost certainly will. That's true whether it has 12, 14 (my prediction at least for the next few years, upon adding ND and one of Rutgers/Cuse/Maryland/etc.) or 16.

Posted by: Dallas Husker on June 9, 2010 6:05PM CST We have established relationships with high school coaches down here. That will not completely disappear. If anything, we are a leg up on Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin, or any other big10 schools in terms of pulling kids out of this state, Louisiana, Mississippi or Florida, thanks to Pelini recruiting these areas and establishing ties. The big10 may no longer be the slow conference if the other teams want to match our speed, like we did with the Florida teams of the 90's. It could get very interesting.

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 6:05PM CST Partial qualifiers are student athletes that don't fully qualify academically right out of high school. However they can still register and start going to school at NU for example until their grades qualify. Until that happens obviously they cannot play.

Posted by: pacer on June 9, 2010 6:06PM CST Partial qualifiers: A kid that does not acheive both the minimum HS GPA and ACT/SAT scores. If he's admitted as a PQ, he spends year-one working on his grades. He cannot practice or workout with the team, eat with the team, etc. It is described as a lonely process during which guys that never took school seriously are forced to grow up and, literally, make the grade. I'm in favor.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 9, 2010 6:07PM CST so is that considered a grey shirt or something totally different?

Posted by: alhusker on June 9, 2010 6:09PM CST No gray shirt means you have been promised a scholarship but you have to pay out of your own pocket the gray shirt year. but you can still go to workouts and practice like everybody else.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 9, 2010 7:43PM CST Anyone else here ever been to a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse? I found more than a couple in our new Conference...

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 9, 2010 7:46PM CST The Big 10 is going to at least 12 teams and will take advantage of a CCG from what I've read...