Life in the Red Group

Posted by: Ivy Mike on June 6, 2010 12:16AM CST And how long do Texas and Colorado have... the two schools who started this? Yet Nebraska and Missouri get the blame.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 12:19AM CST Interesting... Just read the article... I'm not sure if Nebraska is truly on the fence when it comes to the Big 10, or if they're just much better at keeping their mouth shut than Mizzou. Thanks for the late night work BC (and Sip).

Posted by: Brian Christopherson on June 6, 2010 12:20AM CST You make a good point boom. Have a good night.

Posted by: RonJe on June 6, 2010 12:23AM CST I guess this is a truely Texas run and dominated conference.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 12:26AM CST TO is a smart man. I love the comment: "The agreement when I left (the Big 12 meetings) Thursday was that (conference commissioner) Dan Beebe and (Texas President) William Powers would do the speaking." LOL. Basically saying that they(UT) are the ones opening their mouths. Then again, Texas has alot of big mouths. We are in the Big 10. If the Big 10 and UT were emailing a month and a half ago, do you really think that there has not been ANY contact between the Big 10 and NU? I think not. I just think TO and Harvey are very quiet.

Posted by: Albino on June 6, 2010 12:40AM CST If we don't get a fair deal from the Big 12, or a good offer from the Big 10, I increasingly think Nebraska should consider becoming independent. Set up a Big Red TV network, populate the season with traditional rivals and interesting adversaries, and recruit nationally. We can probably have over half the crowd in any stadium in which we play. GBR

Posted by: BobB on June 6, 2010 12:46AM CST Many posters wanted Beebe to step up ...... Apparently he has done that.

Posted by: Husker Charmer on June 6, 2010 12:49AM CST I hate this

Posted by: IBleedRed on June 6, 2010 1:05AM CST Anyone who thinks that Nebraska can make it as an independent power like ND is dreaming. We are in sparsely populated state with even fewer alumni and/or fans out of state. If the economy gets any worse, fans won't be able to pay for a drive to Lincoln let alone away games. the bitter truth is the bigger schools in the Big 12 are going to leave us in the lurch to get more TV money with the PAC 10 and if we don't get a bid from the Big 10, we are going to be in very bad shape indeed. I think the whole affair is lose/lose for Husker fans in general.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 1:05AM CST I don't think this is what people had in mind in terms of Beebe stepping up. Perhaps this is what Texas had in mind, but I think if UT wants to keep the Big 12 together, they have to make a concession. Beebe should have been trying to orchestrate that, rather than handing out ultimatums. Osborne isn't going to be intimidated by threats and ultimatums.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 1:24AM CST IBleedRed, "even fewer alumni and/or fans out of state" How much longer has ND been around compared to NU and how much bigger is universit of ND compared to NU over the past 50 years as far as graduating classes?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 1:29AM CST NUCORNDEVIL, I guess playing KSU, KU, MU, ISU, CU isn't considered 'mediocrity'?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 1:40AM CST corn devil))) NU fans are scrambling for ground to stand on. Thats why there is talk that we would be better off in the bigslow10. The fact is... the bigslow10 is an embarrassing conference and an obvious downgrade. Some Nebraska fans think it's cool to be lumped in with the red headed step child Mizzou. Let's be real. If Nebraska leaves... it's because of money. Thats embarrassing and a certain sign that what Nebraska was made of... has departed. I saw a dude at the mall the other day walkin with his gril. He said... "Baby... I wouldn't sell you for a million dollars." Nebraska would!

Posted by: Gofor2 on June 6, 2010 1:45AM CST Just came up for some air, did you guys get this figured out? Again, reading how TO is dealing with this is a classic. Understated, humble, and prepared, very prepared to face the situation and pull stuff out that will blow away the opposition. Don't be surprised if a fumblerooski or similar plays will occur. Nobody out thinks TO when he's got a Husker victory in his sights. Think about those big games, when the national stage was not giving this quiet man from Nebraska and his team any chance at pulling out a victory. After the Huskers stomped them, they still didn't get it. TO can bring the wood, make no mistake about that. He does it, in such a way, that bewilders the unaware.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:46AM CST Step, Money may pay a role, but you don't think it has to do with the way TX pushes it's weight around? TX wants it's on Network and they can pull it off, but playing the Huskers every year makes the deal worth more money So TX only wants their own network and money has nothing to do with that either?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 1:48AM CST In all honesty... the bigslow10 reminds me of the old SWC. The downward spiral of all the schools hating each other and with no respect. It's been going downhill for a decade. Plus.... it's as simple as... nobody cares about the bigslow10 anymore.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 1:50AM CST The addition of Nebraska and Mizzou won't change anything.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 1:51AM CST Stepn, Honestly, does college football matter outside of the SEC? Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10 it doesn't matter. We are all second fiddle anyways. Big 12 can't beat the SEC any better than the Big 10 could(mainly, Ohio State). And so if that is the case, why not go for the 'fixed income' for that fancy new addition we are hopefully getting in the east stadium?

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 1:54AM CST Yeah, TO's the man. Seriously, the man went for 2. That's the guy we got on our side. TO FTW

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 1:57AM CST Yeah Stepn, The Big 10 is like the SWC, with all their conference instability and whatnot. Not at all like the Big 12. The Big 12 doesn't have ANYTHING in common with the SWC. It's not like it's on the verge of collapse with the same exact team trying to dictate to everyone in the conference as it did back during the SWC.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 1:57AM CST Adding NU to the Big 10 does help. It's not like the Big 12 tore it up in football last year. Only NU and UT finished in the top 15. Adding NU to Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa does help. And who knows when Michigan gets back on top(maybe not until they fire Rich Rod, sorta like a Callahan thing) but they have the resources.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 1:58AM CST Nish))) If you think we won't play 2nd fiddle to tOSU/Michigan.... then I don't know what to tell you. Simply put.. Nebraska isn't big enough to be an equal. It's a numbers game. Texas' own station is a bizarre conversation when it comes to Nebraska fans. Texas fans are smart enough to understand that their own station doesn't change s***. They'll make money off the deal... but to assume it will change any conference deal... is stupid. Sorry.... but thats the only way to put it. Do Nebraska fans really think that the big saturday night game of Neb Vs Texas would have all the money going to the Longwhorns... because they own their own station? Is that possible that Nebraska fans are that dumb?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 1:59AM CST " the bigslow10 reminds me of the old SWC. The downward spiral of all the schools hating each other and with no respect. It's been going downhill for a decade." I think you meant the Big 12?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:00AM CST HuskerinCo))) The big12 and pac10 are 2nd fiddle. The bigslow10 is 4th fiddle.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:00AM CST Add Nebraska and Notre Dame to the Big 10, and you have 4 of the top 5 winningnest programs in college football history (1. Michigan 2. Notre Dame 4. Nebraska 5. Ohio State)

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:03AM CST boom))) Who says the big12 is about to collapse? The media? You can't be serious. Don't be a slave to the media.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 2:05AM CST "Name the last relevant Big 10 Win?" The 2 BCS wins last year?

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:05AM CST Stepn, If all of Texas tunes into the Longhorns Sports Network for football games, than ratings go down on ABC, and when ratings go down on ABC, the Big 12's ability to negotiate a new television deal becomes way harder, and they make less money because of it. Texas having its own network DOES impact the revenue of everyone else in the conference.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:05AM CST Ohio State beat a Miami.... in 2001.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 2:07AM CST Step, I don't going to the Big 10 is the answer either. I used to be a fan of TX, any other day beside the day the Husker play them. Nope I don't think Michigan/OSU will treat us any better. I don't like how the Big 12 Championship game has been dictated to be in TX, hence forward. And if you think it will be played anywhere else besides Jerryvile then your dumper than you think I am. Yeah TX are the big boys of the Big 12, but last time I check the sign read conference meaning equal membership. No?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:08AM CST boom))) If that was the way it was set up... sure. But Texas fans roll with laughter when they see Nebraska fans assuming Texas will down it's own conference for the one thing Texas has plenty of... cold hard cash. Don't be a slave to the media.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:09AM CST Yeah Stepn, you're right, nothing to see here folks, move right along.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:09AM CST Or was that '02?

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:12AM CST Ok Stepn. I guess we'll find out whether Texas will down its own conference or not in the coming months. My guess is Nebraska had a few demands, with the Longhorns Sports Network being one of them, and if Texas really cares about the Big 12, they'll compromise.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:13AM CST It really is bizarre. People in Nebraska really believe that Texas will sign some sort of deal... to make them get all this cash... whilst... THE REST OF TEXAS' OWN CONFERENCE IS LEFT OUT IN THE SNOW! How long would that money last without anyone else in the conference? Like Texas has all these idgits running their program... and they see no value on their own conference. LAUGH OUT LOUD!

Posted by: Skull&Bones on June 6, 2010 2:15AM CST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series#BCS_Bowl_wins_and_appearances_by_conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series#BCS_bowl_wins_and_appearances_by_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series#BCS_National_Championship_Game_wins_and_appearances_by_team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series#BCS_National_Championship_Game_appearances_by_conference

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:16AM CST NUCORNDEVIL.......... what?

Posted by: Drinkin' Wit' Terrell Farley on June 6, 2010 2:17AM CST Stepn, I don't know if repeating yourself about the "Big Slow" is to convince others or convince yourself, because it's propaganda Ohio State clobbered Oregon Penn State beat LSU and the "speed of the SEC" this past bowl season "Slow" Wisconsin beat the "Fast" Hurricanes Iowa obliterated Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl last I checked, the Big 10 is only down 1 game below .500 against the SEC, the best conference in the land supposedly, when you win 4 titles in a row, they can make those statements I guess Either way the Big 10 is just fine and represents itself well, what should concern Nebraska is endowment/fundraising, NU would for sure be in the bottom 3, if not tied for last compared the billions in the Big 10, compared to ND, UNL's is pocket change and a fart in the wind, there's no chance of success as an Independent for the 'Huskers

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 2:17AM CST I think it was '02. But I think 2 BCS wins last year is considered 'relevant'. I know all the NU fans would've been whackin' it if we would've beaten TCU or BSU last year in the Fiesta Bowl. In all honesty, why is NU thinking of leaving for the Big 10? We don't need the money. We make PLENTY. I can't wait to hear when the 'facts' do come out.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:19AM CST It's all trumped up by the media. Everything posted here in the last few weeks has been dictated by nothing less than the media. Don't be a slave to the media. There are about 3 or 4 posters... lead by IH... claiming no need to talk about it... until something legit... not something put out by the media who has you sodomized by some unsubstantiated rumors. What a novel idea! This is hilarious! Don't be a slave to the media.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:22AM CST It is funny, isn't it. Nothing to talk about at all. Don't be a slave to the media. 9/11 was caused by Bush. Don't be a slave to the media. China caused the oil spill, not BP. Don't be a slave to the media.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:22AM CST HuskerinCo))) Penn State fans will be the 1st to tell you that they don't have it. BCS W or not.

Posted by: boom.roasted on June 6, 2010 2:26AM CST No, it's of all time... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_football_win-loss_records

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:29AM CST My fav posts come from Gofor2. He chimes in with a... "I missed everything up to this point... you guys got this figured out yet?" lol

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:33AM CST I'll bet anyone here a crisp new $5... that a well thought out article will be placed on the internet tomorrow leaving everyone hanging for more... with more questions asked than answered. Any takers?

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 2:35AM CST As if trash wasn't weird enough... he sent me some snaps of his new house. He lives in the 5th floor room. http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Crazy%20House.jpg

Posted by: Gofor2 on June 6, 2010 2:36AM CST Step Texan's "have cold hard cash" so they laugh. They have plenty of it. Why would they be concerned with a state like Nebraska? We're funny, we have none of your riches, so we're laughable. You know what, I think Texas is scared of Nebraska. We don't have your money but we'll kick your....! Watch that 12 game again and see the fear in the O line and Qb. Relax, Step. Your a Husker, forget the longhorns.

Posted by: Gofor2 on June 6, 2010 2:41AM CST Step I've got a rough next 2 days so I'm counting on you and the usual suspects to get this straightened out. We know what we want. Get it done.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 2:44AM CST Good to see you Gofor. Texan's have so much 'cold hard cash' (lol) and I love watching Texan's when they are vacation because they buy the stupidest s)@t. I guess when they live where it's not very expensive, you can get away with all the extra income.

Posted by: Skull&Bones on June 6, 2010 2:52AM CST BCS Bowl wins and appearances Big 10 21 appearances Wins – 10 Losses – 11 Big 12 17 appearances Wins – 7 Losses – 10 Big Ten teams in a BCS game Ohio St Won 1999 Sugar Bowl Won 2003 Fiesta Bowl Won 2004 Fiesta Bowl Won 2006 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2007 BCS National Championship Game Lost 2008 BCS National Championship Game Lost 2009 Fiesta Bowl Won 2010 Rose Bowl Michigan Won 2000 Orange Bowl Lost 2004 Rose Bowl Lost 2005 Rose Bowl Lost 2007 Rose Bowl Iowa Lost 2003 Orange Bowl Won 2010 Orange Bowl Penn State Won 2006 Orange Bowl Lost 2009 Rose Bowl Wisconsin Won 1999 Rose Bowl Won 2000 Rose Bowl Illinois Lost 2002 Sugar Bowl Lost 2008 Rose Bowl Purdue Lost 2001 Rose Bowl Big XII teams in a BCS game OU Won 2001 Orange Bowl Won 2003 Rose Bowl Lost 2004 Sugar Bowl Lost 2005 Orange Bowl Lost 2007 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2008 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2009 BCS National Championship Game UT Won 2005 Rose Bowl Won 2006 Rose Bowl Won 2009 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2010 BCS National Championship Game NU Won 2000 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2002 Rose Bowl CU Lost 2002 Fiesta Bowl KU Won 2008 Orange Bowl KSU Lost 2004 Fiesta Bowl A&M Lost 1999 Sugar Bowl

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 3:03AM CST BTW, when is the deadline for the whorns to commit to the Big 12 Network and dump the Texass Sports Network???

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 3:07AM CST Why is ESPN interviewing the UCLA football players about John Wooden? Sophomore Matt Dickman? Really ESPN?

Posted by: Skull&Bones on June 6, 2010 3:15AM CST BCS National Championship Game wins and appearances Ohio St Won 2003 Fiesta Bowl Lost 2007 BCS National Championship Game Lost 2008 BCS National Championship Game OU Won 2001 Orange Bowl Lost 2004 Sugar Bowl Lost 2005 Orange Bowl Lost 2009 BCS National Championship Game UT Won 2006 Rose Bowl Lost 2010 BCS National Championship Game NU Lost 2002 Rose Bowl Big 10 – 1 out of 3 Big 12 – 2 out of 7

Posted by: CurtB2 on June 6, 2010 3:42AM CST I am amazed at how underwhelming your understanding of the Husker fan base is. You remember all those history books where they talk about the oakies that moved to California?? There were a ton of Nebraskan's that moved with them. in fact the nebraska fan base in California and Oregon is probably as big numerically or bigger than in Nebraska itself. heck I can count over a dozen families directly related to me on the west coast all Husker fans. and whats this crap about Notre dame being so much more of a power than NU?? They quit playing us in the 20's because we kept beating Knute! Next comment... This 11th hour bombshell dropped by Texas (whome ever) Is strictly a Texas job. Living in pac 10 country, and having lived in Big 10 country, I can guarantee you, neither confrence demands jerk kneed off the cuff reactions. Only Texans do. One of those articles mentioned that Nebraska was the key to holding the big 12 together... a sickly and week school wouldn't matter. Heck the pac 10 just said they are even looking into the possibility of a whole conference merge... and my guess is they and the big 10 are at the very least sharing shopping lists, they do have a 100 years of history working together closely. If I had to take a guess, this stunt and the way it was handled probably has left a pretty bad taste in the pac 10's mouth for Texas. They already got USC to deal with. yah NU is a small school, but it has a very BIG foot print.

Posted by: Uncle Fester on June 6, 2010 4:09AM CST All you guys are looking at making a super football conference. It's not only football; it's every sport. And the wild card is Title 9, also known as women's sports. And big picture guys ask questions like "Are we the minor leagues of pro football and basketball, or are we something else?" And if we are something else, what are we? And given what we are, how do we maximize our long-term self interest? I love philosophy.

Posted by: Uncle Fester on June 6, 2010 4:17AM CST That Osborne is being so coy speak volumes. For as long as I can remember, my mother could in a nanosecond figure out if I was lying. Know the feeling? Sip's article on Osborne immediately reminded me of trying to lie to my mother. Don't even think about it. But the reverse side of the coin is, if you want me to stay, what will you do?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 7:48AM CST Any lurkers out there this morning?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 7:54AM CST Happy happy Sunday Go Big Red GBR in TX!

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 7:56AM CST Mornin' HCO. How 'bout this big mess?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:01AM CST You know, I am still ready for something concrete to come out. I don't think it is media generated anymore after the comments from ADs in recent days, ISU, TX A&M. It's not hard concrete yet, but it sure is churning and ready to be poured.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:05AM CST I'm sure the last words of the meetings were for everyone to keep quiet...no comments! That said, Texas couldn't wait to put a spin on it to give the appearance of them being the good guys and them being completely innocent in all of this. TO and Perlman remain mum, which is what they should be doing, not sure what's going on with Misery.

Posted by: flimflamfan on June 6, 2010 8:14AM CST "Eventually all the facts will come out," Osborne said. That's all I need to know. Really enjoy the political intrigues going on, at the moment. Otherwise I'd still be annoyed that Niles jeopardised his future (and the team's) by bleeding the johnson, off "O" street, right when this stuff always happens. Seems like BB, the Texa$ big hatter and their shills are trying to power play the Corn and Missou. But, like Osbornes said, "the facts will come out." Redundant to point out, of course, but WOW I'm glad Osborne's involved with this. "We didn't start this, but we'll finish it" doesn't exactly shake up Osborne. I don't know about Perlman, but, he's at least got Osborne to confer with. Pretty cool though, that the implication being brandished by Texas media, is that it's on Nebraska, everybody else are innocence personified, waiting for Nebraska to "hit the switch" and blow this whole thing up. Tough gig, but somebody's gotta do it.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:16AM CST I know, like I said last night I loved TO's comments about how the weren't to say anything and yet all of this 'timeline' BS gets put out. TO and Harvey are being pretty cool customers through all of this.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 8:25AM CST good morning GBRT......

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:27AM CST The arrogance will eventually get the best of those trying to put a spin on all of this. These boys seem to forget that TO spent some time in Washington D.C. They don't think he learned a thing or two about how to play 'the spin' game.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:28AM CST ESPN is now saying on the bottom line that NU and Mizzou HAVE been invited to the Big 10....according to reports of course.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:28AM CST Mornin' LCH! What's goin' on?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:33AM CST HCO, I'm sure those reports are probably true but no one in the Big 10 is spouting off about it to speak of. I'm sure that this 'deadline' of sorts that TO and Perlman face is also an attempt to 'out' the Big 10 and their plans so that everyone else can make plans as well. Just like the Pac 10 tossing out their plans of absorbing the Big XII South, they all want to know what the Big 10 is up to so that they can get their trump cards ready to play.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:39AM CST I think this stuff is all going to be going down by the end of this week.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 6, 2010 8:41AM CST Let me get this straight... Fact: This realignment talk all started with overtures from the Big 10 to Texas 60-90 days ago... Fact; Texas wants their own TV deal and has openly said they want all the $. This will critically affect and injure any future TV network talks. Screw the rest of the league, right UT? Fact: we're now hearing about the Big XII south, with Texas being the jewel, joining the Pac 10...but the ultimatum goes to Nebraska and Mizzou? Fact: And the only confirmed emails talking about the Big 10 expansion are ones between AD's Texas and Ohio St.... they have been openly flirting with each other for months. UT, you will talk with just about anyone if you feel the $$$$ is right. True? Fact: BB Lite is "comfortable" that the Big XII will stay intact. Yeah, stay comfortable while selling out the conference to Austin by keeping the championship game perpetually at Jerry's World, and throwing the conference championship to get your favorite team in the BCS title game. Texas has been openly being courted across the country by the Big10, and now the PAC 10, but they are telling BB to put the screws to Nebraska? BB Lite is a puppet on Texas's string. Don't mind the burnt orange men behind the curtain as BB talks to the media. Shameful. UT, you are not to be trusted, selfish and the reason why we are at this point. TO and brass, Nebraska is a extremely valuable brand, and we will have choices. Screw Texas and all this smoke coming from Austin.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:42AM CST Anyone going to be in Omaha the week of the 21st? I'll be up there visiting my mother the week prior and then heading to the CWS for a few days. Thought maybe we could set up a meet and greet somewhere.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:43AM CST Miami Husker, Agreed 100%.

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:45AM CST That sounds awesome GBRTX. I've been telling my cousin for 4 years that if they make it to Omaha, I'll be there. Unfortunately, they have had their chances and this year(his senior year) they didn't even get an invite to the tournament (Mizzou).

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 8:51AM CST That's pretty much it Miami. It's amazing how so much of what they do is shameful but they continually come out smelling like a rose. Hopefully this time they come smelling more like BEVO presents.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 8:52AM CST Miami Are you hearing any whispers down your way that the SEC is holding closed door meetings and is actually looking to make a move on Big 12 schools (amoung others) before any other conference can? That is what all the sport shows and Bars are talking about in my little area of the world.

Posted by: Old School Husker on June 6, 2010 8:52AM CST dang step maybe living in texas has you thinking like a texan. pleading to stay in the big 12 is wearing thin. open up to the new possibilities. do you have skin in the game ala big 12. i mean supporting sock puppet beebe and texas is getting much harder to do. texas left early. he even was the chairman. that speaks volumes. plane to catch. yeah a private one. i fly in private jets from time to time. guess what the owner, passenger decides when it departs. i support the huskers and osborne and the current admin. let them do their work. they arent idiots. believe me.

Posted by: Trashman on June 6, 2010 8:53AM CST Step Thanks for getting those pics up of my "little paradise". Wait till I send you the pics of the inside! You will be pleasantly surprised. Possibly jealous. However, I am disappointed you did not mention me with I/H as one of the 3-4 posters not falling into this trap until the substance of info is available..... Of course, my trouble with internet hookups in the new pad does cause me some timely problems. And posting at 2:30am? Pretty good for an old dude and his lettuce....

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 8:53AM CST Didn't Sergio Kindle like drive through a dorm or something like that and leave the scene at like 2am and not tell anyone because he was on probation at the time? Anyone back me up on that?

Posted by: Old School Husker on June 6, 2010 8:59AM CST miami has it right. im with you. go big red.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 9:00AM CST HIC Is this a new offense or are you referring to the stuff that happened like 3 years ago?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 9:01AM CST I know Kindle had some issues but I don't know any details. What's up Trash? You going to Omaha for the CWS?

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 9:03AM CST What about you LCH, gonna be anywhere near Omaha in a couple weeks?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 9:03AM CST LCH, Talking about the stuff that happened like 2 years ago maybe? Just kind of commenting on GBRTX post about how UT comes out smelling like roses all the time. That's all.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 9:05AM CST GBRT No I'm stuck out here on the beach

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 9:13AM CST Bring the beach with you!

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 9:17AM CST Well unfortunately if you want the experience of the Beach these days just drive to your nearest gas station buy a quart of oil, pour it on your feet and wo-lah you have the beach experience.......thanks BP! What a freaking shame...already seeing the effects here on the beach regardless what the media is reporting there is oil in the Atlantic.

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 6, 2010 9:21AM CST Low Country Husker, I do not have a good handle on the SEC end of things....I would think they may go after other southern schools if they were to expand such as North Carloina, Clemson, GA Tech, even FSU. Watch out ACC if the powerful SEC comes calling on your schools But no inside info.

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 9:24AM CST I stole this but it is like stepn, "cute" ......Better yet why dont BYU, Notre Dame, Baylor and all the other religious based schools out there form their own conference? With 1. God on their side 2. This being a Christian nation They will win all their games and get all the viewer..........

Posted by: Bloozman on June 6, 2010 9:26AM CST Tuck Fexass!

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 9:28AM CST I could possibly see FSU and Miami bolting for the SEC but I would tend to think that the original ACC members would stand pat with the ACC. The primary concern of the ACC is their basketball programs, I just don't see them messing with that.

Posted by: GBR in Texas on June 6, 2010 9:32AM CST What about you Blooz, gonna be near Omaha the week of the 21st?

Posted by: HuskerInCO on June 6, 2010 9:34AM CST ACC won't go anywhere. They make too much money and it really is a very competitive conference already.

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 9:36AM CST Hey trash, I did not realize you and stepn were that close, so to speak. Pad looks nice. Is that really a picture of "Thongville?" Anyway keep up the good work.

Posted by: Husker in Wisconsin on June 6, 2010 9:58AM CST When the Big 10 first stated that they were going to look to expand, I was pretty excited, with the thought of being able to see some Husker games being so much closer to me in Wisconsin. However, the more I started to think about the athletic differences, even though I think we'll fit in with the Big 10 to some degree, I think that we are more closely aligned with Big 12 style. I think that being in the Big 12 gives us the best athletic options. However, it shouldn't be forgotten that the Big 10 is definitely a step up in the world of academia. Even though Stepn likes to say that the Big 10 member states hate each other (don't get me wrong, there are some rivalries here that can be very heated), but at the end of the day, every member school of the Big 10 is proud of the strong academics of the other Big 10 schools. The alumni network is very strong. I travel throughout the Midwest, and when it comes to networking, jobs, business connections, the Big 10 alumni could show the schools of the Big 12 a thing or two. Years and years of tradition, a definite step up in academic prestige, research grant dollars, not to mention the extra money for the Big 10 network. As a Husker athletic fan, I'm hesitant with the move. However, as a Husker alum, I'm glad that they are seriously considering the obvious upgrade for the University.

Posted by: Husker in Wisconsin on June 6, 2010 10:08AM CST I have to add that a Badger co-worker of mine called this over a year ago. He told me that the Big-10 would be calling for NU soon. I told him he was crazy, but here we are. One thing that most NU fans don't realize that live in Nebraska and west of there, there is a lot of respect for NU in this area of the country, and a lot of Husker fans. Other than Wisconsin fans, Nebraska stickers adorn as many cars as I've seen from any other university around here.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 10:15AM CST HIW I would have to agree with you on all accounts. BTW One of the largest watch sites I've ever seen is in Florida.....over 300 NU fans gathered in a huge bar adorned with Husker history....felt like I was back home sitting in one of the local bars. They had a 20 foot screen playing the Mizzou game last year....awesome!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 10:57AM CST ESPN: Report: Legislators want Baylor in mix LOL, poor Baylor...fat chance the Pac 10 leaves out Colorado and invites Baylor. Texass.........hahahaha

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 11:14AM CST Texass' legislators should be thankful that Baylor is in the MWC's discussion of expansion along with Iowa State, KU, KState and others... The move to 16-team Super Conferences is coming and it will mean having to schedule fewer lower division opponents. Scheduling will actually become much easier when 10 games (7 inter-Division, 3 intra-Division Conference games) are done deals from here until eternity. I really like where all this is going. Hopefully before I die we'll get to see a Major College Football NC crowned in a TRUE playoff.

Posted by: salmon_slayer63 on June 6, 2010 11:23AM CST that was reported yesterday or eariler, kind of tough to go and tell the new guys what they have to do.

Posted by: 3&OUT on June 6, 2010 11:28AM CST LSK, The day they announce a playoff will be the day I drop dead from a heart attack. What would we have done without all of this talk about expansion? I think the big 12 is toast and now it is everyone for themselves to get the best deal that they can. It'l be interesting to see who really does "finish this".

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 6, 2010 11:32AM CST Texas, land of arrogance, manipulation and blaming others such as Nebraska when it is UT that is shopping all thier options around. No trust, no teamwork, no ethics. Admit UT, it is all about yourselves and greed. $$$$ for UT is the cry. And using BB LITe as your whipping sound boy is shameful. He is a mere puppet for you. Again, shameful UT. You got your championship game at home TFN. NU, keep all options open. Force UT's hand to make significant changes if we stay. Surely no Texas network must be the first demand if we decide to stay in the Big 12 Texas Conference. TO and brass, big change may be the best thing for us. Have a strong backbone and stand up to these arrogant manipulaters. In TO we trust.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 11:33AM CST How's the media pulling yours strings today? Let's see here... it says that the big12 has given Nebraska a deadline? Clearly... Texas is behind this one. They want Nebraska to commit.... so that Texas can go to the pac10 afterwords... and make Nebraska look dumb after being stuck out. And you know Texas spends most of it's time scheming how to make Dr Tom... who they despise... look like a fool. Nebraska better hurry! Are they gonna be loyal like UofTexas and OU? Or will they sell out and worship the almighty dollar? More excitement to come! The media has already planned their next step!

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 11:35AM CST We got your bar beat I think Low, ask gofor2. One screen? Well I guessa 20" is sweet though. Actually our watch site could use an upgrade on their projectors and screens to more modern DLP tech stuff. I don't know how many attend the watches at the bar in Olympia, but we have 2 watch sites that I know of and the one I go too is packed, they even have to put plywood on the 3 pool tables and a table cloth for extra seating. It's a blast, kinda funny every once in awhile a Husky fan who doesn't know what's up will pop in and their jaw will drop and their face will get sorta contorted followed by a weird, (did I just step into the twilight zone look ...as they turn around and walk out shaking their heads. I'd say on most game days we have 400+ maybe more, never attempted a head count, but not everyone can sit at a table or on a chair it's so packed usually.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 11:38AM CST The rumors here in Austin are... a special meeting was called by Deloss Dodds. Texas' crack staff is busy working on new ways to destroy Nebraska. This could be the end.

Posted by: flimflamfan on June 6, 2010 11:42AM CST One thing I like, is this issue makes the season even more intense, even more important. A lot of hurt, is going to happen. Hurt bodies (not that I want that) and "hurt" feelings. Hostilities and antagonisms during conference play especially, are going to be BRUTAL! Some of that might even trickle down to the field... With "Bebe's" ultimatum, I'm curious about what that does contractually (financially). For example, would they penalize Nebraska even more, than they otherwise would if Nebraska had already opted out? If Nebraska ignores the ultimatum, then that's seen as defiance worthy of summary punitive punishment? Or, Nebraska opts out and the southern 6 then join the Pac and they all pay extra, leaving the remainders to Iowa State- et al? Lawyers must've scoured the conference agreement. Implied threats had better have some back up, some heavy basis. Budget conscious administrators surely don't want ancillary damages to negate a money grab. Somebody's best laid plans are going to backfire. There has to be a major miscalculation, somewhere. Individually or, collectively. Ah, this is great!

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 11:43AM CST There aren't any TX watch site that I know of. I think I remember one time when we played Texas about 6 people showed up with TX gear on. I guess most TX fans never left the homeland or something.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 11:44AM CST Also... one of the main topics of this clandestine meeting.... has the Texas crack staff working on new ways to have Baylor and Nebraska merge. Early word is... The Baylor Nebraskans. Has a nice ring to it. The Longwhorns are definitely on to something. And everybody thinks Texas is out to get Nebraska. Now it appears Texas is actually looking after The Baylor Nebraskans.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 11:48AM CST I'm talking about in WA smartazzes, I know there are TX watch sites in TX.

Posted by: kungfusquirrel on June 6, 2010 11:50AM CST rluben: the watch site here in Austin at Cool River Cafe is pretty impressive. My own jaw dropped the first time I walked in, which was just after a NU score in the Ark St. game this last season. Had the fight song piping through the speakers and i got one of the last seats in the 4 huge seating areas they had reserved. Amazing stuff. Stepn: I'm loving your posts. There's a lot of valid complaints and reasons for bitterness against Texas, but the level it has gone to as a result of all this expansion rumor is just hilarious. You'd think Texas invoked Primae Noctis on Nebraskans (think Braveheart - I admit, I had to look it up).

Posted by: 3&OUT on June 6, 2010 11:56AM CST Step, Love their QB, sounds like a plan to me. Do Bears eat Corn? The mascot could be a corncob with fur. Anyway we can get first billing, since we do have a few more National Championships or do we have to ask for permission from Texass? We can play all of our games home and home, great idea.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 12:01PM CST kong fu))) It really is bizarre. Lot's of absurd behavior towards Beebe now also. People hate his guts because of a few quotes and all his "lack of leadership qualities". You can't make this up. You couldn't write it. The level of paranoia is sky rocketing to new heights.

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 12:04PM CST 3&Out))) Too late. Texas' crack staff already has the furry corncob designs patented. All the money made off the Baylor Nebraskans furry corncob mascot goes directly to The Longwhorns... of course.

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 12:11PM CST This is going to be very interesting. As much as a number of us would like to this NU holds the "cards", definitely not the case as TEXAS does and always will. I'm not real comfortable with the folks representing NU at this "card game". If my memory serves me correctly, it was Harvey Perlman who signed Bill Callahan & crew to a very costly lengthy extension only to fire him 4 months later. T.O was a fine football coach but was outgamed in D.C where real politics are played. NU better be careful or Texas will make T.O. remember pain much like that associated with his failed 2pt conversion in the Orange Bowl. NU should hope the Big 12 survives as the Big 10 is not the Conference of the future. In a breakup the Pac 10 in the big winner as they add the powerhouse SOUTH DIVISION. The North has been the Big 12's cupcake Division. One could waste their energy trying to argue this point, BUT the W-L record between the Divisions don't lie!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:11PM CST Step, maybe you can't comprehend or refuse to comprehend all of the dynamics involved that affect OUR STATE - NEBRASKA, based on THE UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA'S ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT'S VIABILITY INTO THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE?! You have yet to acknowledge any of the issues that loom large for NEBRASKA, but rather deflect with what I consider to be low grade junior high school humor. You look more and more like a Texass-apologist, refusing to point out that a spade (BB, Texass U.) is really a spade...

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 12:12PM CST ok... I'm out fellers. Going to Hamilton Pool to see what types of hotties are there. Just killing time before the big game tonight! Let's Go Flyers! Rumor has it... that the Flyer's flying P logo was designed by a Texas grad in response to the red N on the Nebraska helmet. The Longwhorn tentacles reach pretty damn far. Even as far as the NHL team logo designs. Also... early word is... the World Series and Super Bowl are negotiating with The Longwhorn Network for tv rights.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 12:14PM CST I do wish everyone would quit blaming TX for all our problems. We created our own damn problems. TX didn't have squat to do with T.O. retiring, or Frank's performance or T.O's old staff getting burned out and possibly , maybe even not really being thrilled about having Frank as their new boss too...who knows for sure, the fact is they got a little weary the end themselves after a long run of huge success, personal and family sacrifices and the grind on the body and mind. That happens after a staff has put in many years together and they are at the end and ready to do something else or w/e. I dislike losing to them too, trust me on that. But TX didn't fire Frank after a 10-3 season and a very successful first year defensive turnaround by a young coordinator named Bo. TX didn't hire Billy the Clown or decide for us that we needed to wear skirts and work on are dance moves while flying kites. Nope that was Steve Pederson, wait...hold on a second...maybe he was a mole planted by TX after they successfully brainwashed him...yeah, yeah, that's the ticket. Nope we caused our own turmoil and drama from within our own ranks. Even with TX throwing it's weigth around, if we hadn't gone through that debacle and had stayed true to who we are and were our record against them wouldn't look quite as bad as it does at the moment. TX has nothing that they can do to us and never have, we did it to ourselves. TX got a shell of an effort compared to normal, they know it, we know it. They know that when we are strong, there isn't anything outside the out of bounds markers they can do to keep us down. My only issue with TX currently is their weird spin on things like they haven't been flirting with they big 10 and/or PAC 10 and we are somehow the bad guys. They are just mad because they know the BIG 12 makes little to no sense without us. I don't like them wanting to have a network of theri own and not be a part of the conference TV deal,because it weakens the conferences ability to negotiate a better TV deal for the conference. Of course I know they'd have to pay us any time we played them and they televised it on their conference. In fact, they'd have to pay us any amount we DEMANDED if they in FACT desired to televise it at all or they could forget about televising it. I just don't see how the benefits the conference though as a whole, I do see how it would create even more bickering and division though. I understand they want to have control over what games get televised and probably want to have the ability to televise all their other sports. To me a BIG 12 Network similar to the Big 10 network makes a whole lot more sense... and then if TX wants to control or have some input on some of the programming within that Network in their other sports, then fine, work out the details and the money end, and I'm good, as long as any other school can have the same opportunity. A BIG 12 Network could easily have 12 subnetworks within it for each school np, all sports could be covered if they so desired ect ect.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:15PM CST jackson, you still crack me up...LOL

Posted by: The StepnRaZor on June 6, 2010 12:18PM CST LSK))) I dunno. I just feel like Nebraska will be alright... no matter what. You don't seem to have the same faith? Why? My confidence makes all of this media speculation worthless, kinda juvenile and somewhat pedestrian. Plus... as long as we have Texas by our side... how can we lose?

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 12:26PM CST So TX can have the TX Sports Network as long as it's just 1 of 12 subnetworks within the Big 12 Network. They can even have channel 12 if they want it. Hell they can have a Bevo bedtime story hour too for all I care. Or after they lose to us they can televise their Bevo Barbeque and bakeoff. Be there or be square, y'all come back now ya hear. Heck I'll design their splash screen for them. "Don't Mess with TX" with a little animated avatar of a Bevo character crapping his diaper as A Husker runs him over.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:29PM CST I have zero faith in the State of Texass, the University of Texass nor the Big 12 Texass Conference's ability to provide the future for DONU that exists in other quarters. And they have made it ABUNDANTLY clear that don't care, will not move from their position (duplicitous to the maximum) and are indeed dancing in between the sheets as much as anyone. That being said, no, I do not put my faith and trust in the current masters of the Conference DONU is leaving...and by the way, it's already over in case you haven't figured that out yet. Cry, bellyache, moan, whine...whatever. But it is what it is and I'm very thankful for where our future is headed. *Our* being DONU, it's faithful. Do or die, come HELL or highwater...but you need to understand that Texass had the opportunity this week along with the puppet gang to propose moving in a direction that keeps DONU in the fold and preserves the league into perpetuity. Game Over...

Posted by: PT Husker on June 6, 2010 12:31PM CST In and out today doing yard work. Tom shatel said it best. If TO and Dodds would sit down over a cup of coffee for a few hours this whole mess would be over.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 12:31PM CST What's really got TX all worked up is Tom flat out told them nope you won't just do what you want, not as long as I'm around. You won't dictate to us and you won't be starting your won network and if you try to thrown your weight around we have other options..deal with it Bevo boy. TX isn't quite used to someone looking them in the eye and telling them what is what and how it's going to be.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:33PM CST It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to have anything other than one network for the conference. None whatsoever...

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 12:35PM CST One thing all this discussion has confirmed is that there is a huge gap in strength between the North & South Divisions. The North appears to have three teams that other major conferences desire (NU, MU & CU) the South five (UT, T A&M, TT, OU, OKS). Factor in CU's recent history of regularly getting spanked by Mountain West (CSU) and less teams (Wyoming) and its clear that CU is being invited for other factors than football! If the Big 12 avoids "the breakup", look for a major reshuffling of Divisions. All but one South Division member (Baylor) would be major factors in the current cupcake North Division.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 12:39PM CST Step, You still running your dribble. Seeing what you can throw out and see how fired up you can get the rest of the Husker fan? You can be blame for some of this hysteria (Mr. Self proclaimed recruiting guru), where is all your recurring news to take our simple mind off this he said, she said banter? Step you have stated your TX connection in here before. You and Mack Brown go trolling for midgets down in Boonvile or was it Odessa. Wasn’t it the Orangehorn that is putting out disseminating information how the almightily(input Texas here) and the rest of the Longhorn clones are going to the Pac 10. I really want to see that. I find it funny that TT is falling inline with TX, since there the ones that got screwed two years ago when OU, TX and TT all had the same record and TT finished 3rd behind OU and TX after beating TX (football). Yeah we started it with the Big 10 talk, really don’t think that is the solution What is amazing Step is that Nebraska can even compete against TX. The have all the talent down there in the Lone Star state (emphasize Lone). They have all that TX oil money. They have the best facilities. They have Jerry world to play in there on self proclaimed bowl game. I wonder how long before there is a Jerry Bowl played every year for the National Championship for the Republic of Texas? Can you ask Mack that the next time you see him? They can call it the Jerry Jones face lift bowl. Step, you have all the connections what your solution to all of this? Call Mack up and explain to him why the little state of Nebraska has there panties all in a bunch. The only thing in all of this that irritates me in all of this is TX thinks there bigger than the rest of the simpletons that make up the Big 12 conference. Otherwise, why do they need their own network?(more money?) I even agree with the revenue sharing. TX has to be getting the most TV money now. So why not sit back and allow the Big 12 to get a TV deal? I’m selfish in this matter it would mean I don’t have to dish out so much in payperview every year to watch the Husker play football.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 12:41PM CST Oh they for sure messed up if they actually tried to dictate to us what we have to do and when. They started this months ago when expansion talk first came knockin...it was all about how TX would benefit the Big 10 and there's even seems to be public record email proof that there were emails between them and Ohio St. But yet they spin it and basically flat out lie saying we didn't start this but we will finish it. The have the balls to give ultimatums and deadlines...kinda weird if any of the reports are accurate. Tom and company won't be pushed around, that I feel very comfortable with. I'd like to see where TX has reaffirmed their commitment in writing to the Big 12 and where they aren't flirting with any possible offers.

Posted by: Wrestler on June 6, 2010 12:44PM CST Yes, and Step I have agreed, with MBH and Coach and others, about OU's strange relationship with UT, of hatred and need, the need Step, as you know best, for keeping their fingers in Texas, for recruiting results to supply their success in FB? So when MBH says Texas the jewel, for Pac 10 alignment, again its in reference to money and media population centers etc. As I guess the success, both NU and OU have achieved in FB, isn't even considered in the jewel business? Again by most accounts, NU is in top 5 of of all time winning programs, in college FB and AP and ESPN crowned OU, as the best! But achievement isn't a factor of consideration apparently, is this quagmire, or what? As in the Big Ten, and its shared revenues and population markets, and of course the attractiveness of Pac 10 with CA.? If I was starting a superconference in wrestling, based on merit not revenues, it would have at the top OSU and OU and Iowa and Iowa State, heck I would just merge the two conferences, Big Eight, Big 12 brought nothing in wrestling and Big Ten? Now NU and OU and their merits in FB, seems insignificant? That's why I used one of my sports wrestling, as an example of minor sports, being more pure in nature? Revenue has ruined big time sports, in so many ways? Many times athletes in pro sports, will opt out of playing for fear of extending or aggravating a existing injury? Their a commodity of value? A perceived one at that, my old friend Boz, from OU comes to mind? How much did he sign for going to Seattle, and how little did he eventually play? It came to 40,000 dollars a tackle in NFL or around that? In wrestling and other sports, that lead to international events, and olympics and soforth, wealth and fame come after accomplishment not before, as it should? And to most in those respective sports, the drive to achieve is not the target of wealth? Revenue and so much more, has corrupted the very essence of what college FB, and to a little lesser degree college BB, is all about? Now athletes in those respective sports, see college play as a stepping stone, into the pros alot of times? The one and done with college BB etc.? Now superconferences and alignments for TV etc. is tearing at the very fabric, of existing relationships over so many years of existence? Oh I am a business prof so I understand the dynamics, but I don't like it? That's why my minor sports and others, I hold close to my heart, as their alot more pure in scope, than what college FB and BB, has evolved into lately? And this has been spearheaded by AD's and administrative people that scrapped men's minor sports, over Title IX issues, by not having the balls, to defend all sports at their schools and the needs? These are the same, that concur the protecting of bowls and their monies, as to implementing a playoff system in D1 FB? Big 10 commish comes to mind on that pt.? AD's and administrators, have tarnished D1 FB, and not a big fan D1 BB at least, they have the Big Dance, in my eyes? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! GB 12! Zhou Da Shier! Getting filled up in hotels, and our apartments with friends and relatives, so up as no one keeps the hours I do? All tucked away, in their sleep, while the big mice and I play sometimes?

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 12:49PM CST Let's see according to many bloggers.....NU is telling Texas they don't need Texas????? In reality its more like Texas implying, NU we obviously don't need you and could careless if you join the slow-10. We're Texas.....bigger, badder & richer. NU fans are taking a lot of "pot shots" at UT....... jealousy is very unbecoming! Take a page out of T.O.'s book.......if you can't beat'em shut your mouth. T.O is a smart man.....I'm not hearing much from him!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:52PM CST jackson, byu beat OU last year. And houston beat OSU (and TTech) last year. so what's your point? should the school's in conferences with the largest populations (most TV sets) call all the shots or is it a conference of equals, i.e., like the Big 10?

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:53PM CST geez, jackson. you're so bitter about the last decade that you've become a Texass homer too. What's good for Texass is good for everyone? How Big 12 Texass Conference-like of you...

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:57PM CST Wrestler or whoever is posting now with Wrestler's handle - it's too bad that few sports actually draw enough interest to generate any revenue whatsoever and support themselves, but's that the deal. FB and for some BBall pays the bills and draws more attention to Major academic institutions than all the other (certainly including) Title IX sports programs combined...

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 12:59PM CST that would be "...(certainly including Title IX) sports programs..."

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 1:02PM CST If NU held the "cards" that UT hold it'd be interesting to see how they'd play'em. IF rumors are true..... NU is considering abandoning their weaker conference "partners" in KU, KSU, ISU? Why would they do this......surely not MONEY!! Where is NU's loyalty to their North Division bros? NU can be thankful that this isn't all about basketball, as we'd be lucky to be a new member of the Missouri Valley Conference. My point IS.................NU has an eye on the $$$$$s much like Texas. WHY.......because they're playing their "cards" as strategically as possible!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:04PM CST ESPN: Nebraska e-mails: Osborne, Tressel met By Adam Rittenberg 1:50pm Eastern Nebraska is definitely on the Big Ten's radar for potential expansion, league sources have told ESPN.com, and the feeling apparently is mutual. Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne met with Ohio State head football coach Jim Tressel on April 19, according to an e-mail Osborne sent to Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman on April 20. ESPN.com colleague Mark Schlabach obtained the e-mail through a records request to Nebraska. "I think it would be a good time if we met sometime soon regarding the expansion landscape," Osborne wrote to Perlman. According to reports, Nebraska is one of two Big 12 schools (Missouri is the other) that have been given a Friday deadline by the league's presidents to decide whether they'll remain in the Big 12 or leave for the Big Ten. No formal invitations have been extended by the Big Ten to any expansion candidate, although the Big Ten's presidents and chancellors are meeting right now at league headquarters in Park Ridge, Ill. In another e-mail obtained through the records request, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe informed the league's athletics directors May 10 that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said nothing had changed regarding the league's original 12- to 18-month timetable for expansion. Beebe wrote that Delany "affirmed once again that if the Big Ten decides to engage in formal discussions with institutions, he first would contact the commissioner of the conference."

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 1:05PM CST LSK.................it is rather obvious that the South Division is much stronger than the North! BTW, this has been documented by journalist (including the OWH) on countless occassions.

Posted by: Wrestler on June 6, 2010 1:09PM CST Sock puppet, you are? You don't know a dam thing about real Title IX issues? As so many don't? I am the wrestler, but who are you really? I have been in minor sports in college and coached at universities for minor sports so know Title IX issues well? You are just blowing in the wind? Yes bigger sports generate more revenue a primary student knows that? Much more indepth decision making to Title IX issues and fallout to men's minor sports than meets your eyes? Your the one that denigrated my soon wife to be? I think you reside in Lincoln from your other identities on here? Go to my personal box and give me info on how we can connect if your a man? I will come to Lincoln sock puppet? I have a score to settle with you and its not on the blog? You also were going to go toe to toe with Rluben until the exchanging of info to meet? Same guy or what? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! GB 12! Zhou Da Shier!

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 1:09PM CST I think what Step isn't getting is Nebraskans won't be pushed around or dictated to...plain n simple. He's probably just a little frustrated with some of us and our whining about TX this TX that and how boohoo TX won't let us have our way blah blah. Personally, I say we don't need their permission to kick their a$$ on the field, we'll just do it because we can and will. Nothing TX can try to do is going to change that, so who cares what they do really in the grans scheme of things? He, like me, likes things pretty much the way they are and knows we are close to being all the way back and then some and are about to open a big can of whup azz on the entire conference providing there is a conference left. I understand where step is coming from, we control our own destiny and there's not alot TX can do to change that. I'm tired of talking about it, Tom said the truth will eventually come out on what's what. I need to shut the heck up about TX this TX myself. I like the rivalry we've began to develop, I hope it can continue so we can get that won - loss record fixed. The blustering about their own private network was just fantasy talk anyways, they know the conference isn't going to allow that to happen where each team they play has to negotiate separately with them on payouts and all that crap.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:11PM CST From the ESPN CFN BLOG link above: Beebe wrote that Delany "affirmed once again that if the Big Ten decides to engage in ***formal*** discussions with institutions, he first would contact the commissioner of the conference." LOL at BB. By the time he gets the call, it's 'hey, we're bringing in Nebraska and Missouri, just wanted you to have the official word from me...' ******* jackson, at the beginning of the Big 12 SWC Texass Conference, the South was NOT stronger than the North. so what's your point? don't like a level playing field such as the Big 10 offers?

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:13PM CST Here is a funny spin on all of this The Texas Legislature may get involved. They don’t think the Pac 10 should take Colorado but should have to take Baylor. You don’t get more arrogant than that. Their not concerned about TX and the rest of their clones going to the Pac 10, there concerned little brother Baylor might be left out. Lol No worries about any of the TX students having to attend a Pac 10 game on the West Coast and fly back at O dark 30 to attend school the next day. The hierarchy known as the TX Legislature is so full of themselves they think they have the venue to assisted another school that maybe would be better suited in the Pac 10 should be scratched from the list in order for one of their TX elite can be apart of the program It doesn’t get more arrogant than that.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:15PM CST I now Wrestler and his background well as posted to these boards. I don't understand what happened. Are you the same individual and if so why are your posts so different now, i.e., are you speaking another language and using a translator-service? Title IX is and always has been nothing more than an expensive bucket of warm pi** and that's being nice. It's well documented what the politically correct have done to college sports with that ridiculous concept...

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:17PM CST jackson, where have our 'brethren' been during all of this? just hanging onto Bevo's teets and sucking out whatever they can get while sticking to DONU 11-1 over and over again? not even a WHIMPER from them about any of these issues, just sucking up at the trough...

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 1:19PM CST The commish and TX may have sealed their own fate by trying to dictate to Tom and force his hand. I don't like this, I want to stay in the Big 12 and get things set straight. Man, this is starting to feel like when it was apparent that Pederson had it in for Frank and you knew major changes were right around the corner. I like stability, moving to the Big Ten makes little sense to me. Oh well, wait n see.

Posted by: bigred-Ore on June 6, 2010 1:20PM CST I believe the reality is (and they both realize it) that Tx and DONU need each other. If either jump ship the B12 is finished. I think alot of these conveniant leaks are just Beebe/Tx way of appying pressure and I don't think any supposed deadline has any teeth either. The revenue sharing issue is no worry to NU. Essentially it says win more, be on TV more and you'll make more. With Bo in charge I think we do fine in this area. Same with the CCG being at Jerryworld. Unfair, inconveniant but not a dealbreaker; TO said as much himself. The dealbreaker is the TX network b/c if they proceed the B12 has no chance of secureing a lucretive deal with Fox or anyone else. Tx also seems to be creating some cival discord down there with their antics. Some A&M folks saying it might be in their best interest to part ways and go to the SEC rather than Pac 10. Current and ex state legislators saying they will block any Pac 10 deal if Baylor isn't substituted for Colorado. Not to mention that T Tech is a Tier III university and I don't know if Cal or Stanford will stand for that. Texas needs to keep the B12 together because half the fun of being Texas is well "being Texas" They won't be the big dog if they move. (nor would we if we move)

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 1:21PM CST LSK......maybe so, probably why NU appeared like the Conference back then. Since the going has gotten tougher in recent years......some members decided it was time to look for a "softer" playing field. Partial Qualifiers played a significant role in the old Big Eight's early success in the Big 12. Once all conference members were held to more stringent academic standards.....the South became and stayed dominant.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:21PM CST rluben, you can get your bippie that DONU FB is back! And you can also know that everything that's great for Texass is NOT great for the other 11 currently in the conference. Yes, we will have a Texass-barbeque in Lincoln this year but no matter how high we reach is about numbers and we need to watch ours carefully. Anyway, it's a moot point. Get out your map if you drive to away games, because some Big 10 cities you've maybe never been to before...

Posted by: Barnabas on June 6, 2010 1:23PM CST I personally don't like ultimatums. So, if Beebe has given Nebraska an ultimatum, I think Nebraska should take a serious look at the Big 10. There are a lot more attractive match ups and potential rivalry games in the Big 10 than there is in the big 12. There is also a lot more national prestige, based on tradition, in the Big 10 than there is in the Big 12.

Posted by: Old School Husker on June 6, 2010 1:27PM CST No Texas we will finish it, thankyou.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:27PM CST jackson, not maybe so, it's a fact. And yes, the new qualifying rules brought about by the failed SWC-Texass Conference made it very difficult to find as many players for smaller state population schools as is possible for schools in states like Texass...they made the available talent pool much smaller and for a reason. Competitive advantage. Who cares if many of those young men took full advantage of going the more difficult route and succeeded.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:30PM CST Ruben, I'm with you. I have tried to refrain from posting about this. Even had a pac with another Blogger we wouldn't post anymore about this. Oh, no I let it out, that I have an alliance with another blogger! lol That why I have been posting movie reviews. Saw Iron Man 2 the other night. Kind of disappointing. The movie was basically a segway to a movie about the Defenders staring Samuel L #$%#ing Jackson. Overall I wasn’t impressed with the movie and give it 3 throw the bones, with 5 bones being the best.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:30PM CST Nish, I almost fell out of my chair LMAO when I read about the Texass legislature and Baylor-Colorado-Pac 10 on ESPN!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:31PM CST Why isn't the Texass legislature DEMANDING that houston, tcu, smu and Lord only knows which other programs down there be invited to the Pac 10 also??

Posted by: PT Husker on June 6, 2010 1:33PM CST So Santos, you are against Gender equity. Women belong in the kitchen and in bed by your logic. Probably should not even vote. Like it or not, this is the 21st century. You can only last so long and your real personality shows. And it has been banned three times and counting. This conversation has been very civil since it began many weeks ago. Keep it that way or stay out of it. Yes that was an attack and not very civil but your remarks were uncalled for so they get uncalled for remarks in return.

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 1:34PM CST bigred-ore TT a Tier III University?? I think you need to do a little research. TT is Nebraska's equal when it comes to academics. If the Pac 10 can live with ASU they can definitely accept TT. BTW......If NU were to join the Big 10 they'd easily hold the distinction of being the conferences academic marshmellow. Its all relative......in some conferences they could BOTH be the academic gem!

Posted by: Old School Husker on June 6, 2010 1:35PM CST Beebe helped bring SMU down. how ironic. karma.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:37PM CST PT, I'm against Athletic Departments sucking up funds that would otherwise go to the Academic side just to make sure there's the exact same number women getting scholarships as men. Someone still has to pay the bills, right? Or do you like schools having to drop somewhat popular men's athletic programs (that in almost EVERY case generate more revenue to the Athletic Dept.) in order to just give a woman an opportunity to play at the university level and go to school on the public's dime?

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:39PM CST PT, you are a moderator/the voice of the forum now? LOL, attack away. I have common sense on my side...

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 1:40PM CST wrestler, Stay away for lossantoskid. He is the old big red glory. And that is a fact. He has several sock puppets he talks with pretending he is in a conversation. Just the facts. Hey PT. At the pool with the twins. Nice day in the foothills. Buffs to the MWC

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:40PM CST Los, That why Baylor is in the Big 12 The Governor of Texas when the Big 12 was being formed passed a was defining if TX, TX and A@M was going to be apart of the Big 12, Baylor had to be apart of the package.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:43PM CST Ok, I'm not seeing the BRG analogy(connection)? Really?

Posted by: bigred-Ore on June 6, 2010 1:44PM CST Jackson ! I could be wrong about Texas Tech but I don't think so. In any event they are not NU's equal in academics by any means. But as you say it is all relative. My point was to the fact that the B12 remains the most viable option for many of it's members. Now whether TO, Harvey and company agree with that remains to be seen

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 1:45PM CST Nish, trust your elders

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 1:47PM CST Plus another issue with them wanting their own network that probably wouldn't fly with the other conference members is that the announcers would be working for TX, not a neutral network. Who's going to agree to that crap, every time they play TX their fans have to listen to TX biased announcers. Pure fantasy if you ask me.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 6, 2010 1:47PM CST It is the law. And yes I am for giving women the same opportunity as men to get an education. And I am also in favor of equal pay for equal work. No doubt that Football pays the bills at NU. And the dime is on the University athletic Dept which receives no tax support. Back to the yard.

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 1:48PM CST Hey nish, I am at the pool watching the bevy of beauties cruze the walkway errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr keeping an eye on the kids. PT, I have some yard work to finish up. When you coming West? Wrestler your freedom is fading fast. Trash, fortunately thongs are banned at this pool.................for men.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:49PM CST PT, "banned 3 times"? LOL You're funny...

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:51PM CST I am no one other than THE LosSantosKid. Never been big red glory but I do glory in the big red. Nice attempts at distraction, though...the issues don't change.

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 1:52PM CST LSK, When you start drinking you become your old self. And that's a fact Go Big Pac Ten

Posted by: PT Husker on June 6, 2010 1:53PM CST You joined the forum May 6th. Yet you know posters history. Guess you have been "lurking" for years. Fool yourself if you wish.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 1:54PM CST Wait until the fall Nish, it will become more than obvious if he's still pretending to be this character then. At least 3 of us here think it's so based on a Puppet show we saw a few weeks ago when we already had our suspicions, it was just confirmed then. No worries he hasn't got off the chain yet. Some of the training took.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:55PM CST I guess, then, that when women produce the same revenue in athletics that men do then they should be treated equally according to you. Or, do you give them a pass on productivity JUST because they're women? Equal pay for equal work, heck yeah. What we have now? Ridiculous and costing too much... I have 3 sons and 4 daughters (with another daughter soon coming) and ALL of them will have to carry their own weight in this life. That's fair, right?

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 1:56PM CST Los, How do you know what BRG means? DPB, My pool is out of commission and it finally hit over 100 here in Vegas. Suks to be me.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 1:58PM CST

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 1:59PM CST I've lurked every forum where Cornhusker FB is discussed for over a decade and posted to none but ESPN until now. Glad to clarify but I doubt it's going to help certain people here who disagree with me or find me disagreeable. I just call it how I see it and bleed red (maybe more than some, apparently). But I do find the 'profilers' on here amusing. lol

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 1:59PM CST Hey Nish, you ever been on those rides atop that space needle looking casino there in Vegas, forgot the name? They look like some fun azz rides., there's 3 of them.

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 2:00PM CST low your words of wisdom are excellent as usual sheesh

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 2:01PM CST Nish, because it was posted above your comments: Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 1:40PM CST wrestler, Stay away for lossantoskid. He is the old big red glory. And that is a fact. He has several sock puppets he talks with pretending he is in a conversation. Just the facts. Hey PT. At the pool with the twins. Nice day in the foothills. Buffs to the MWC

Posted by: salmon_slayer63 on June 6, 2010 2:01PM CST bigred-ore TT has been called a tier 3 school by many pundits on espn, cnnsi, and foxsports. i am certainly no expert but

Posted by: Miami Beach Husker on June 6, 2010 2:03PM CST Step, Your spin on things is clever, a bit quirly and slightly off key, but entertaining none the less. I enjoy your warped view of the world. Drug induced, perhaps? A bit baked after all the ingenstion of foreign substances? I know the Kentucky KoolAid can get me in trouble. I am no saint myself. Slip up all the time in fact.... You have me perplexed......a so-called staunch NU fan, but with a odd tint of burnt orange in the veins. It has come through your pours quite a bit the past week or so. You are quite the defender of the UT dogma. A bit of the UT goose step? Surely you are not a closet Longhorn? In any event, do keep the Texas HS recruiting info coming. Maybe I am just having a bad dream....

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 2:03PM CST Not many people around here that disagree with me or find me disagreeable have their facts straight, obviously...but whatever. Don't care...

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 6, 2010 2:03PM CST DBP Had to laugh when you said you had the twins at the pool.....I misinterpreted that to mean you were in the bathroom! I now know you were being literal not discreet!

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 2:04PM CST Los, I don’t want to get in a debate with you, but your thinking? There are very few women’s athletics (programs) that make money. The (purest) reason for having athletics at any schools is to provide a venue you for kids off all genders, race and background to be able to attend a school and using their athletic skills as a means to pay for their education. College athletics is not suppose to be about making money. (I know, that's not true) DONU is lucky that it has a program like the football program that not only pays for itself but also helps pays for other programs. Your thinking would mean there would only be athletics for programs that make money.

Posted by: salmon_slayer63 on June 6, 2010 2:07PM CST http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/22870/nebraska-e-mails-osborne-tressel-met interesting

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:07PM CST Yeah, he always pumped his fist about how much of a superior Husker fan he was than everyone else too. ...and how he wore his Tommy Frazier footsie jammies to bed every night, and how could anyone talk anything bad about his hero Jason Peters blah blah blah. ...and how he would let Brian Blankenship watch his kids and teach them how to drive because he too was also a Husker hero and should be worshiped blah blah blah and any true Husker fan would bow before them all blah blah blah.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 2:08PM CST Really Buffs went to the MWC? Is that a fact? Cuss its supposed to be announced Monday that Boise St. is joining the MWC Low, as once stated by a very astute poster "Shut up" Not really just kidding.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 2:11PM CST I remember, This once time at LITR. Two bloggers where going at it on here. One was going to poke the other in the eye. The other was going to set his grandma's flag on fire. The a lady by the name of Victoria step in and spanked these two bloggers and said "You must all play nice!"

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:13PM CST Nish?

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:15PM CST This one time at LITR camp...

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:16PM CST I asked you a question up above Nish.

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:18PM CST You probably missed it due to the glare from the crown of the almighty superior number one Husker fan shining so brightly in your eyes.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 2:19PM CST Nish, I'm saying that the 'scholarship for scholarship' concept is ridiculous. Nothing more, nothing less. Just ONE example: National Review: Title IX Strikes Again Arizona State University loses big. This summer, the Olympic Games in Beijing will highlight the best athletes in the world. Some Olympic sports, like basketball, will feature professional superstars in a modern day “dream team.” But most sports, true to the Olympic tradition, will highlight the best amateur athletes in the world. Colleges have long served as a training ground for elite amateur athletes, but, unfortunately, several Olympic sports have been under attack on colleges across the country. Sports — especially those like men’s gymnastics and wrestling — are endangered species on campuses where few programs remain and more get cut each year. Athletes at Arizona State University are the latest victims of this disturbing trend. In May, the school announced that it was cutting three men’s sports: wrestling, swimming, and tennis. Following public outcry (see SaveASUwrestling.com) and a massive fundraising campaign, wrestling has since been reinstated. ASU swimmers, tennis players, and several coaches were not so lucky. ASU sports fans were rightfully caught off guard by the recent string of events. The men’s wrestling program has logged numerous NCAA championship appearances and a national championship in 1988. The program is one of the only Division I wrestling opportunities in Arizona for the over 5,400 high school wrestlers in the state. The men’s swim team also has a history of success, including generating four Olympic gold medalists. The team recently picked up one of the top recruiting classes in the nation for next year. Now those athletes will have to follow their dreams elsewhere. But perhaps nobody was more surprised by the cuts than the coaches themselves, who were not consulted before the announcement. The school insists that the decision was not a hasty one, so it seems odd that they did not involve the coaches and other official bodies, such as the relevant sports associations and the NCAA, in the search for solutions other than full-scale program cuts. ASU claims that the primary reason for the cuts was budgetary. However, when one looks at the numbers, that simple explanation seems dubious. Arizona State has an athletic budget of $42 million. The cuts will save the school an estimated $1.1 million — a small sliver of the overall athletic budget. The fact that the coaches and athletic community were not consulted before the cuts (when they could have started to preemptively find endowments for the programs) is suspect. Swimming coach Mike Chasson expressed the team’s frustration: "When you're pressed against the wall, people step up (financially). In this situation, we didn't have an opportunity to do that, and that's what the team is upset about.” The latest cuts are not the first time that successful programs have been dropped at Arizona State. In 1993 the school eliminated three men’s sports including a competitive gymnastics program that won a national championship in 1986. Like the present-day cuts, the sports had a minimal effect on the athletic budget, saving the school only $350,000 annually. So, if the budget impact is minimal, what other factors are at play? A release from the school says the cuts were made on the following criteria: financial impact, potential competitive success, conference/regional support and gender equity. The programs were competitive on a national level and popular in the region. That leaves the gender equity — a veiled reference to Title IX — which looms over the heads of every athletic department in the country. Arizona already offers more sports for women than for men. After the cuts the school will offer 21 sports: nine for men, 12 for women. Title IX proponents have long stated that schools can comply with the law by adding sports for women, without a negative impact on men’s teams. Unfortunately, reality tells a different tale. With the current enforcement measures for Title IX, the easiest way for schools to demonstrate compliance is to cut teams to achieve a politically-correct gender balance. The cuts at Arizona State are simply the latest in a long, unfortunate history of program cuts. It is a shame to see Arizona State shy away from discussing Title IX’s role in this decision and lay the blame entirely on the budget. Where budget issues truly are a concern, let’s hope that more schools consult with coaches and potential funders to avoid these kinds of cuts. And if Title IX is the real cause, university officials need to speak up so that the public understands the full consequences of the current Title IX enforcement regime. That’s the only way change will ever take place. — Allison Kasic is the director of the R. Gaull Silberman Center for Collegiate Studies at the Independent Women’s Forum. Completely, utterly and totally ASININE!

Posted by: 3&OUT on June 6, 2010 2:20PM CST I think it's time for our own poll. Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10, MWC, where do you think we will land? Winners get our heart felt gratitude and an at-a-boy for a job well done. I'm voting for the big 10 er 16, not that I want to see the Big 12 disappear but only because it is already dead. Decisions like these are why TO and the presidents of these fine institutions get paid the big dollars. The rest of us are just here for the party.

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 2:24PM CST Princton Review (the Bible) rates Texas Tech and NU as follows: NU TT Academic rating 72 70 Academic Selectivity 76 75 Statistically the same.......still a Tier III University? NU??????

Posted by: rluben on June 6, 2010 2:25PM CST I think it's time for a break from expanding zone. I'll go let the swelling in my brain subside a little.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 6, 2010 2:25PM CST Ruben, I won't go atop the Stratosphere where those rides are. Two reason: I had a 100 shares invested when it first opened. They filed for bankruptcy. I lost my investment but the property stayed in buisness. I never even got a free ride. Plus from time to time there are reports of wheels falling off the roller coaster. Its a safety issue for me. But the have a new one where they hang you out over the edge and dope you like 500 ft or so. GF wants to do it. I say go ahead, just make sure my name is on you life insurance policy.

Posted by: N_trepid on June 6, 2010 2:27PM CST We destroyed the Big Eight for this crap?

Posted by: 3&OUT on June 6, 2010 2:36PM CST N_trepid: I long for those days as well, but the success and dollars earned by the programs through expansion to 12 has led to a belief that bigger is better. It's all about the money and having the sports programs support the academics as funding drops from other sources. If they start making all of this money when are they going to offer a stipend to these athletes so they don't have to go knock off a gas station to take out their girlfriend or hang with the guys. $400-500 ought to do it if everything else is paid for already. Big numbers we are talking here and greed has raised its ugly head.

Posted by: Robka on June 6, 2010 2:47PM CST Step - Nebraska has been getting screwed by the Whornes since the Big 12 started. Yes Nebraska wants to make money. The football program MUST be profitable for Nebraska athletics to exist. So you think all of a sudden the University is getting greedy? If anything moving from the Big 8 to 12 was more of a greedy move and guess who was in charge of that one. The same jerk that stuck the students in the corner of the end zone. This country is based on greed so expecting anything better from UNL is unrealistic. Farmers are greedy so they pump chemicals into our drinking water supply so they can have higher yields. BP was greedy so they cut corners and now we are dealing with the largest oil spill in the history of the united states. I hate it as much as you do but $ is more important than human health so it sure and hell is going to trump college football rivalries. GO BIG $!!!

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 3:07PM CST how much does each scholarship athlete playing, say, women's lacrosse, get each month? do walkons get paid? do athletes in football programs that already don't really break even now get paid and take the program down too? i for one believe every Cornhusker Football player that participates and literally puts their bodies and lives on the line to entertain us and profit the University should get a cut if they get their grades and stuff. but seriously, think it all the way through. consider Title IX 'gender equity' too. oy vey. Maybe there really only will be 4 or 5, 16-team Super Mega Conferences that can be profitable in such a scenario...kind of a different level thing, based on actually running their Athletic Departments like a business, with a budget and everything - reward$ commensurate with producing re$ults like, say, the Coaches and ADs get??? i love Sundays...

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 6, 2010 3:10PM CST The princeton reivew is a For profit company and not associated with Princeton U. They are not the bible and never have been. They do the "pay to play" deal and that is all. Phoney baloney.

Posted by: Wrestler on June 6, 2010 3:41PM CST Wrestler your freedom is fading fast. DBP, you're exactly right! Thanks for the words of support? Boulder is a beautiful place and the foothills are special! I know you and your family live, a extremely quality life? I love Rocky Mtn Park? To me, it is every bit as exciting, as Yellowstone and Glacier and so close for you? I used to cross country ski around Cub Lake area? Sorry about our encounter, from now on, you can fire away, at those wagondrivers? As we both have the love for NU and that is all and good? I myself am disgruntled at the tail approach with UT, with Sooners, and TO standing alone, it seems in this whole mess? Saying that, DBP, I have seen where you aren't completely happy with the breakup of Big 12, and so I hope TO standing his ground, could bring about a resolve to some of these issues? Or instead of 6 the whole Big 12, merging with Pac 10 I like that also? Just so the ISU's and KS programs and others aren't left behind as well? PT you're a rock on this blog, and so grateful you are? Thanks as I am for women's sports too, as I had sisters play at university level and cousins. Just don't think you have to cut any of the minor sports, if you stand on convictions, there is always a way to figure it out? DBP, at one time, CU had a pretty good wrestling and baseball programs as well? Wisconsin is solid in wrestling today, also? The Jordans from Ohio, went there and those are two tough hombres in wrestling, former Badgers. So some schools like NU and PSU and many others find a way to take revenues and make it work in most cases, for all sports both genders? Thus allowing for more participation of their student body and entertainment for fans as well? One could also understand, that you lose high profile athletes sometimes, that choose to compete in two sports, if not offered on to another school? GBR! Zhou Da Hong! GB 12! Zhou Da Shier! Now Mon am here, DBP, 5 days and counting! We sign our marriage licenses in the morning of Sat. June 12th, be like Pearl Harbor day for me? A day of infamy, as Teddy, I know, I know, the other Roosevelt said?

Posted by: Jackson1 on June 6, 2010 3:50PM CST If the ACC were to feel the effects of the Conference shakeups......look for Boston College to join the Big Ten if Notre Dame goes there! I'm not so sure NU will meet the Big 10 standards if there is an all out shake up.

Posted by: LosSantosKid on June 6, 2010 9:53PM CST jackson, seriously, you crack me up...as i understand your underlying issues, despair and hatred from the dark days...lol