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Kiper Jr. bullish on Suh
Posted by: Steve Sipple on November 12, 2009 at 1:24PM CST

It's been a few hours since we've had a Ndamukong Suh blog . . .

Just caught ESPN's NFL guru, Mel Kiper Jr., passionately making a case for Suh as a Heisman Trophy candidate. Kiper, in a debate with Todd McShay, said Suh is "spectacular" week in and week out, and who would disagree?

"Why he doesn't get more mention . . . is beyond me," Kiper concluded.

Good pub for the big man.

 

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Posted by: atlhusker on November 12, 2009 1:26PM CST
UNO!
he'll make a compelling argument for heisman if we land in a bcs game otherwise they're gonna give it 2 an offensive player like ingram, tebow or mccoy. whoever ends up playin for the championship.

Posted by: atlhusker on November 12, 2009 1:28PM CST
Cricks pretty darn good too!

Posted by: Golden Husker on November 12, 2009 1:37PM CST
MCSHAY WAS A HATER AS USUALL. He has had weak players ahead of Suh in his draft for a while now.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 1:59PM CST
I think Suh deserves consideration. Not only is he obviously a smart guy, and an absolute force on the field, in my opinion, he makes everybody around him bettter. There is no doubt his drive and fire rub off on the other defensive players. Hell, just look at what Dillard, Akamura, and the others say about how his play makes them able to perform better.

I also like the expamle he sets for other college players with the "graduating is important" attitude. His turning down a million bucks to return for his senior year and the team speaks to his determination and character.

GO BIG SUH!

Posted by: atlhusker on November 12, 2009 2:01PM CST
Lee should start! Green's not ready! this game like the last is going to come down to who scores first and turnovers.
if we can get a 2 possession lead early or at any point thruout the game we'll win but if they score first(td) it could get ugly!

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:01PM CST
.......you know example, e_x_p_a_m_l_e......

wow, that's not even dyslexia........

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 2:12PM CST
If Suh were playing on a top 10 team, he would be getting a lot more attention. Not fair, but sadly so.

Go
Big Suh for Heisman

Posted by: Bumarooskie on November 12, 2009 2:18PM CST
Sip; thanks for the Suh blog...I was having withdrawal pain.

Sure would like to see the big guy go to New York and WIN the Hiesman. If it's for the best "player," then you'd be hard pressed to find someone who makes more of an impact in a game, week in and week out.

I sure hope he gets to play for a good team in the NFL and not some perenniel (sp?) bottom dweller like Detroit. He is good enough to play right away and make a real difference.

And, rounding out my wish list for the week: I wish the Huskers would score at least 24 points this weekend (any combination of special teams, defense, and yes, offense, will do). I think that gives us a good chance to win. Anything less could turn out to be a nail biter....

Posted by: nielsenguy on November 12, 2009 2:20PM CST
I am partial, but I agree so much with Kiper. I heard him and he was downright angry about nobody paying attention to Suh. He is right though, Suh has been the best player in the country...I thought that was the person who is supposed to get the Heisman.

Too bad everyone is hung up on offensive guys that really aren't that great. Tebow, Mccoy, are not near as good as they were last year. Ingram is good, but I haven't been super impressed with him either. Keenum from Houston is putting up crazy numbers, and he is on a low tier team and makes them look great.

Suh is far and away better than all of them. I am more impressed by him every time I see him play. He has good numbers, but the numbers don't tell the half of it. He is the most disruptive force I have ever seen in CFB.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 2:25PM CST
Suh won't win it, it isn't sexy.

So some undeserving used to be or hardly was will win it this year.

At this point n time he does deserve to be at the top or at worst top 3.

Pretty cool to see Kiper Jr. standing up for our Suh passionately though.

Posted by: Husker4Life on November 12, 2009 2:31PM CST
I agree that Suh won't win it but he is deserving? ABSOLUTELY! He is the best player in college football. The media heads have skewed the award.

Posted by: fleaflicker on November 12, 2009 2:31PM CST
NUCORNDEVIL.........The QB thing is "who can we play that is least likely to screw it up". Evidentually you didn't watch the game too close Saturday night because Cody wasn't too cool out there. Personnally I think both will play Saturday but I'm not for playing Cody for next year's team...there's plenty to play for yet this year.

Posted by: Husker4Life on November 12, 2009 2:33PM CST
fleaflicker you are correct. Lee gives us the best chance this year. Is Cody Green talented? No doubt but let's play the QB that gives us the best chance now. We do have a lot to play for this year.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 2:35PM CST
On another note if Kiffen gets those 3 kids out of that trouble it can be his new recruiting slogan.

Come to Tenn...don't leave the hood, bring it with you. Gansta's are most welcome...You won't have to pump gas, you can just steal at gunpoint like back in the hood...think of Tenn as a home away from the hood G.

Water pistols supplied upon request.
Peace Out my ganstas.

We have a strict policy of housing bloods n crips in separate dorms and do not force you to play as teammates at the same time on the same side of the ball.

kiffen in da House.

Word!!

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 2:38PM CST
lol I can't even spell gangstas or gangsters.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:51PM CST
Suh this spring, Crick in 2 years, and Young Steinkuhler after that. NU is gonna put some DT's in the NFL. Gotta love that!

And lets not forget big Barry Turner, doesn't get his name called much, but I think he has a shot in the draft this spring also.

I believe we also have some future Sunday DB's on the field also.

Despite some major lack of offensive production this year, my view of Big Red Football is pretty bright for the future.


And in light of all that, I really don't care who starts at QB this Saturday. Just don't make mistakes, and grind it out!

Man, I can't wait to see the 09 Husker defensive line go after KU.

Pluck the Jaybirds!

Go Big Red!

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:54PM CST
Good one luber.

Maybe U of Tenn will become the halfway house for the Tenessee state pen, kinda like Miami back in the day.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 2:55PM CST
The major job for Turner and Allen is to contain. that got fixed for the VT game and they have stuck with it. Reesing will not get away for long cause those two are forcing things back inside. It has caused some loss in personal stats but they don't seem to mind.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:55PM CST
Hope I didn't insult the football gods by dissin' on Monte and his kid at UT.

Posted by: Husker4Life on November 12, 2009 2:57PM CST
LOL Country Husker you are right. The future is very bright indeed! I think the offense will be improved too. After Lee and Green have another year in the system plus a good stable of running backs getting another year they will be much improved. Scott Frost struggled somewhat his first year too but the second wasn't so bad. ;-)

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:57PM CST
Good point, PT. I like how they push the edge in and hold it there. Dang, that Bo and Carl can coach 'em some defense!

Posted by: Blackshirtbacker on November 12, 2009 2:59PM CST
I am just amazed by Suh. His stregnth and balance are tremendous. His speed is also very impressive. I remember the game at Wake Forest when he chased down a wideout they ran on the end around play out of fly motion about 10-15 yards down the field in 2007. That was something else to see.

Crick is very good, but he is no Suh.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 2:59PM CST
.... and regarding the Kiffins, I still say they hired Laner for head coach just to get Monte as defensive coordinator.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:11PM CST
The Heisman has been a joke for about two decades now and rarely goes to the "Best Player in College Football".

I'd like to see Suh go to the ceremony just to see him in a tux and to catch the vignette they do on him. But I really couldn't care less if he actually won it. It does nothing for the player, and has been kind of a jinx.

I really don't need to see Suh blowout his knee, threaten suicide, and end up in a crack house.

Posted by: kuntryboy on November 12, 2009 3:13PM CST
Only offensive stars get real consideration for the Heisman. So...put Suh in the backfield in short yardage or on the goal line...just a couple of times. Can you imagine? How do you tackle a house? Do that and he jumps up into top 3 candidates...probably wins it all too.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:16PM CST
Plus, if Suh didn't win it, then I wouldn't have to be afraid of him showing up later on at a Heisman ceremony (as a previous winner), completely under-dressed for the occasion, sporting some hideous Cosby sweater.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:16PM CST
hey, cuz'

Yeah, whatever happend to that "Suh at fullback" stuff we had at the goal line last year? The TD catch, the TD run, where did those go? Couldn't hurt his Heisman hype, hopefully.

Of course, Bo would feel like a dumb a$$ if he got hurt on one of those plays.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 3:18PM CST
The heisman is just like the BCS. A popularity contest. The big boys reward those that reward them.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:18PM CST
Hey, my first run in with the language filter. lol

What fun. Apparently a$$ spelled correctly is a no-no, but you can say hell all you want.

I gotta try a damn, just for fun.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:20PM CST
Yup, my mind is still in jr. high, my body just got old...................really, really old...........and slow.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:20PM CST
How much more will Suh earn as the #1 pick in the draft if he wins the heisman?

As long as he finishes the season the way he wants to then I will be happy for him. The awards have all become a beauty contest anyway.

Posted by: Huskersincebirth2 on November 12, 2009 3:20PM CST
Guys what are yall talking about?? A defensive Tackle for Heisman?!

What are yall smoking?

(sarcasm throughout that post)

Posted by: fleaflicker on November 12, 2009 3:21PM CST
I love Suh's pressers too. He is a matter of fact cool dude. I don't see the Huskers letting up at all from here on out......And nobody is more deserving of the Heisman than Suh but politics will probably keep him out of it......Kudos to Kiper for giving Suh some love tho.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:24PM CST
Country..

You can't even say "W T F" without the spaces. Apparently 5 yr olds not only can identify swear words on the LITR blog, they can also decipher their abbreviations.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:31PM CST
I can not believe they are censoring the World Trade Federation in such a baseless manner.

Have the Widget Tossing Fillipinos heard about this?

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:32PM CST
LCH...

100%. Agreed.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as Suh achieves his own goals, good for him. I doubt the Heisman was ever one of them, but if it is, more power to him.

But honestly, awards like the Outland, Lombardi, and Lott are much more credible with me, personally. The Heisman has become a joke. A media circus that's been hijacked by ESPN.

Posted by: GreenBrterRed on November 12, 2009 3:33PM CST
If Suh played on either coast, he would have won the HT already. According to most scribes, Nebraska doesn't exist regardless of their record.

Posted by: Outside The Box on November 12, 2009 3:33PM CST
Suh has previously said that he hasn't worked with the offense all year, so don't expect a reprise of his work at fullback.

There is absolutely zero reason to risk getting the franchise hurt as a FB. If Legate can't get it done at FB (and he's been playing very well), and the staff feels the need for a 300 pounder to lead the way, use a reserve offensive or defensive lineman. I'd bet Caputo would be a great lead blocker.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:34PM CST
I will now consider it a challenge to slip as many frickin' extra near cuss words in just for my personal damn entertainment.

I apologize to all the bloggers who are offended, but hey, a guy's gotta have a bleedin' hobby, eh?

Posted by: Father of future Husker on November 12, 2009 3:34PM CST
Suh's your daddy!

The nDominator!

Posted by: Father of future Husker on November 12, 2009 3:37PM CST
Imagine what ESPN will create for Sportscenter commercials using Suh after becomes stud in NFL -


I'm thinking a cubicle made of spears...

Posted by: Outside The Box on November 12, 2009 3:38PM CST
FFH - I realized that earlier in the week I asked for more Mangino humor, but your avatar is about to make me revisit my lunch.

Yikes.

Posted by: RockHusker on November 12, 2009 3:38PM CST
Father OMG where did you get that picture? Priceless and how do I get a copy?

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:39PM CST
FOFH...

Ugh. C'mon man. Now I'm gonna have to explain the piece of tape I have running down the left side of my monitor.

Posted by: Country Husker on November 12, 2009 3:41PM CST
Hey, I never realized what nice tits Mangino has?

(ugh, I had to say it. lol)

Posted by: RockHusker on November 12, 2009 3:43PM CST
I need an 8x10 of that for work. All these Jayhawks would enjoy that.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 3:46PM CST
Country..

BTW.. not only do I enjoy your zeal in the circumventing of the curse filter, but I have to say, you have one of the best photo albums on this joint (2 pics in particular).

Well done!

Posted by: RockHusker on November 12, 2009 3:47PM CST
Oldest continous series in College football? KU vs NU - We've been playing each other longer than any otther yearly series. Amazing. Wonder what the all time record is?

Posted by: KingB on November 12, 2009 3:47PM CST
Just watched the "Know Your Huskers" video featuring P.J. Smith... Seems like a great kid with good values and has a lot to say.. Looks like he'll be a fixture in our Defensive Secondary for many years to come... Glad to have a kid of hight talent and high character..

Posted by: Father of future Husker on November 12, 2009 4:05PM CST
Okay, for those of you with a strong enough stomach, you can go to my profile and copy the picture. And OTB, that was for you since you requested (I just couldn't remember who requested.)

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 4:19PM CST
FFH: you have offended my genteel sensibilities. Do something with that spectacle.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 4:21PM CST
I'll have to say, that one is the topper of anything ever put on LITR.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 4:22PM CST
Busie

Careful that sounds like a challenge LOL

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 4:24PM CST
Busie, Pics like that will keep you single a while longer for sure.

Posted by: NUwindow on November 12, 2009 4:25PM CST
ESPN favors McShay. ESPN hates on NU. I think when you sign a contract with ESPN, it states you WILL be a Husker hater...

Posted by: rankrider21 on November 12, 2009 4:27PM CST
What a sic pic Father, now that is funny

Posted by: NUwindow on November 12, 2009 4:28PM CST
Can't wait til we shut Mark May up!

Posted by: Outside The Box on November 12, 2009 4:34PM CST
As I recall, the telecast of the Mizzou game was an NU love fest as Fowler, James, and Palmer had many great things to say about our team and our program.

Not everyone hates us or is out to get us.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 4:40PM CST
I agree with OTB. When we earn it they will love us. Everyone of them has a lot of respect for Bo.

Posted by: Goldenrod Husker on November 12, 2009 4:42PM CST
Mark may will never like us no matter what and actually all the anouncers during the mizzou game wrote us off and were dogging us until we came back.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 4:42PM CST
Rank rider

if you resize your avatar to less than 70 it will give you that belly roll....be careful not to fall down into the well coming out of the chute though!

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 4:43PM CST
OtB...

Are you saying that I can safely remove this tin foil hat?

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 4:50PM CST
Low and rluben: I am warning you both now--don't go there. Don't even think about it.

I thought I had seen it all with luben's dancing cow; however my co-workers loved it. Has she been named?

Posted by: NUwindow on November 12, 2009 4:53PM CST
OTB, following your reasoning, how has Notre Dame "earned" the love??? Or Michigan for that matter!

Posted by: NUwindow on November 12, 2009 4:55PM CST
Sorry OTB, I meant PT Husker...

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 5:04PM CST
Busie

ah C'mon why not?....I knew you liked Russ bestest!

Posted by: Bumarooskie on November 12, 2009 5:04PM CST
I think Suh eclipses Glen Dorsey from his days at LSU. Dorsey was a stud, but Big Suh is an animal.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 5:08PM CST
Bumarooskie I don't pretend to know the technical aspects of FB but I do believe Suh has more agility. Had said that earlier. Dorsey was such a leader. He could wave his hands in the air and "The Valley Would Shake". Back to Suh, maybe it was the soccer he played when he was younger.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 5:08PM CST
guess this is where the action is...

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 5:12PM CST
Yes, Low Country I like that dancing cow. My Mother did try to bring forth a southern lady but somewhere along the way, I succumbed to the sins of the world. LOL aka bad boys on fb blogs.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 5:18PM CST
At least Suh IS getting attention in the national media. I didnt see a bleep of mention about our 'W' over OU in any of the normal national media (TV) channels this week.
There was no coverage leading up to the game either.

The conspiracy goes on..

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 5:37PM CST
Bruno, more people are watching Suh than you might think. I do know the defense crazed SEC die hard fans are watching him and talking about him.

Were he playing for Bama/Florida/USC/Penn State the ESPN crowd would probably have him right up there with their other chosen ones.

What's really funny is Suh can laugh all the way to the bank and buy a fleet of Land Rovers when the final chunk is flung. Mr. Suh, pardon me, Mr. Millionaire many many times over.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 5:45PM CST
Well, after our Mizzou 'W', we were on the cusp of getting back into the limelight nationally, moved up to 15 in the polls, everything was hunky dory. Some were saying that "Nebraska is back!". Suh's Heisman surge was at it's height.

Then TT happened and the ISU debacle and it was back to oblivion, cept for Suh.

Posted by: Bumarooskie on November 12, 2009 5:49PM CST
Busie -- Glen Dorsey was awesome. Just the idea that we're talking about him and Suh in the same sentence says a lot about both players.

You almost need to tape the game and watch each play isolating on Suh to see what he does and how he affects the game. Crick is really good and will be great, but he's benefiting by playing alongside Suh.

Go Big House of Spears!

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on November 12, 2009 5:53PM CST
KU is up next. But remember, our D did not do so well against Texas Tech and their hot QB.

And a D that was not so good against the run, shut us down.

They got to come to fight for every yard...and stay in the fight.....just like the OU game.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 5:55PM CST
Dorsey was maybe a more dominant straight up rusher than Suh, if I recall correctly, real fast getting into the backfield.

Suh is all over the place, and often does the contain thing to swat and pick off the football.

Suh has a knack for kick blocking too.

What pro team is Dorsey on? Don't tell me it's the Raiders or Lions..

Posted by: Bumarooskie on November 12, 2009 5:56PM CST
If the Huskers were 8-1, Big Suh would be getting a lot more attention for Heisman.

But, as someone else said, Big Suh can cry (or laugh) all the way to the bank.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 5:57PM CST
Who cares what the National media thinks. They've proven themselves to be irrelevent. I know, praise, and attention are nice, but I a, sure Mr. SUH would rather quietly destroy Todd Reesings Face

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 5:59PM CST
Well, we have to finish off this thing right, that is, win out. A loss to any of the remaining Big 12 teams would dull the shine of the OU victory.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:00PM CST
Did anyone else see Suhs comments in the OWH? Keep on kicking that dog HAHAHA

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:03PM CST
The KU defense is not the OU defense. Linebacker play has been shoddy at best. D line is average, and the secondary gives up tons of yards in shoot outs.

Nu just needs to protect the ball

Posted by: joe9wicket on November 12, 2009 6:03PM CST
Dorsey is a Chief... who might be in position for the first pick???

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 6:04PM CST
That was the AfLAC trivia question last Sat. I piped out House of Spears and my neighbor said girl, you do like you some Nebraska fb.

Gotta get out of here for a while. Later

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:05PM CST
I guess I'm wondering why some of the above peeps ^^^ say they think the Heisman is a 'glamour contest' and 'irrelevant' and such; does that mean Johnny the Jet, Mike Rozier, and Eric Crouch should offer their trophies up on eBay?

"Search: irrelevant awards @ a discount".

No, if one of our guys wins it, suddenly it is more respectable than the Nobel Prize. If some player from another team wins it it's just a fashion show..

keep it real.


Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 6:10PM CST
Gotta ask one more question while we're SUHing. (off topic of course) Who do yall think will be the first riders aboard the coaching merry go round come season's end?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:11PM CST
Beado,

Reesing isn't his old self either cuz of his injury, and it looks to me like all the punishment he's taken over the years has dulled his eyes a bit.

Jake Sharp is a joke of an RB too, IMO. So I hope they give him the ball early and often and for the whole game.

Meier, Briscoe, and this new frosh RB Opurum, are their main threats.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 6:14PM CST
Charlie Wiess.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:15PM CST
Right BruNo, and our guys can contain talented players. Even if some plays get away from them. They are ungodly stingy in giving up points. In the redzone they become Blackshirt wall of misery

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:16PM CST
busie,

If Weis loses 1 more game he's gone fo sho, I think he's already gone anyway.

Dan Hawkins has a legit shot at the wagon, wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Rich Rod's hot seat is very hot, will be burning his azz all the off season when they lose 1-2 of their remaining games. But he won't be fired this year.

I hate Rich Rod's version of MI, man thats painful to watch, and I hate MI to begin with.

Freisan(?) @ Maryland will be gone too I surmise.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:17PM CST
I think OU has a better Offense than the Jayhawks. You figure 2 TDs and a field goal should be more thqan enough to beat 'em

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:18PM CST
Beado,
If our O can put up 13 points all by themselves we win for sure. D will provide our balance of points.

;)

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:18PM CST
Rich Rod will get another year, with nothing less than a big 10 winning record.
Weiss Not so much
Can they afford to fire Hawkslove?? Didn't he reup last year?

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 6:20PM CST
I'm wondering what's gonna happen to Bobby Bowden. You don't kick legends to the curb

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:20PM CST
BruNo I think thats fairly accurate. If they O can run straight ahead fairly consistantly, control the clock, and hang 13

Thats ballgame. Especially if they get more 1st downs, keep their D on the field

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:21PM CST
I hear they cant afford to fire Hawk, but you know they want to, the guy is in disarray when you listen to him speak.

I think some CU big wig finds puts up the $$ to send Hawk packin'.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:23PM CST
oh yea, Bowden is history for sure, though he'll fight it to the bitter end. They say he's an arrogant cuss apart from his media good-ol-boy persona.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:23PM CST
Who is gonna want that job?
Watslove???

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:25PM CST
Bowden should've left long ago. It was his ego that did it. Couldn't let the old Penn State goat beat him.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:26PM CST
Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Reesing doesn't see the 3rd qtr of our game, if ya know what I mean.

I fear for the l'il dude's safety.

I was telling a KU fan on another blog all last year that Reesing had peaked(in '07) as a QB and that Sharp was totally worthless, but the guy just wouldn't 'hear' me.

Wonder where he is now...

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 6:26PM CST
Busie, Bobby should retire and save his school the embarrassment of letting him go.

As far as Hawkins I am not sure CU has the booster they need to buy him out. They are still digging out from Barnett.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:27PM CST
Wats @ sCUm,? Maybe...

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:28PM CST
PT you might be right. Plus they threw more cash at Hawkslove last year.


Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 6:29PM CST
New (old) blog up.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:29PM CST
BruNo You wanna take the Over or under on reesing making it to the third quarter?

While we are at it, how about Kstates lil fella (Banks) He's 130lbs dripping wet, fast though

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:31PM CST
I bet CU cans Hawk and goes after Chris Peterson, but at this point the Smurf job is prolly a better job that the puffs.

Posted by: Busiekcreek on November 12, 2009 6:32PM CST
Well, from what I heard today the Tenn. folk (some of them) are less than enthralled with the Kiffin clan and now the faux paux of the 3 players landing in the hoosegow.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:34PM CST
Beado,

sry, I'm not a betting man, but it's tempting. No, Reesing's gonna get hurt, we nearly did him in last year. I'm not saying I want him to get hurt, just that he's gonna get hurt, factually speaking.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:36PM CST
I didnt hear the latest on the TN criminals, uh, players,

What happened?

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 6:37PM CST
Busie, If Tennessee let Kiffen go after 1 year it would be very difficult for them to hire another one. Unless some scandal can be traced to him he stays for 4 or 5.

Posted by: BlackshirtBeado on November 12, 2009 6:39PM CST
I'll give the Lil' champ until late in the third. Then They jackbooted Blackshirts are just gonna smoother him

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 6:41PM CST
bru...

I was one of the Heisman haters. I'll own up.

In my defense, I said "The Heisman has been a joke for about two decades now and rarely goes to the "Best Player in College Football"."

And like I said elsewhere, I'm not gonna love the award any more if Suh wins it. I think it's a crock and a jinx, and I stand by that.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:54PM CST
SG,

I guess I haven't seen the 'crock' aspect to the Heisman, but lineman or any defensive player pretty much have no shot at ever getting it.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 6:59PM CST
You can't judge the Heisman winners by their success in the league, although most do. being a great college player does not always translate into NFL success. IE Crouch just to name 1. of coure his ego had a little to do with that.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 6:59PM CST
guess we're all on the other threads now....

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:01PM CST
Not all bru, not all.

Posted by: Gofor2 on November 12, 2009 7:01PM CST
Suh will win the heisman.

Reasoning: There's been a paradigm shift, we upset the Sooners, cows dance and of course #1 he's the best player in college football.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:03PM CST
Gofor, doing any fall fishing?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:05PM CST
k, cool, this is the better conversation here..

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:09PM CST
It would be cool if Suh made the final 5. Don't think he will win though. People are to fixated on offense.

This blog is a great example of that attitude.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 7:15PM CST
Where the heck is everybody we are 2 days away from the biggest game of the week and this place is like a ghost town?

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:16PM CST
I know Low, I've been trying to slack off all day and this place is not helping!

Posted by: Gofor2 on November 12, 2009 7:16PM CST
PT
Couple of weeks ago, we got 18" of snow in the last 24 hrs.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:17PM CST
Sumo Mangino ran everybody off.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:18PM CST
I don't care if the Heisman winner goes on to have a great career in the NFL. I just don't think that it's been very legit for the past 2 decades.

Here's what I'm talking about...

Heisman winners prior to 20 years ago...

1988 Barry Sanders
1987 Tim Brown
1986 Vinny Testaverde
1985 Bo Jackson
1984 Doug Flutie
1983 Mike Rozier
1982 Herschel Walker
1981 Marcus Allen
1980 George Rogers
1979 Charles White
1978 Billy Sims
1977 Earl Campbell
1976 Tony Dorsett
1975 Archie Griffin
1974 Archie Griffin
1973 John Cappelletti
1972 Johnny Rodgers
1971 Pat Sullivan
1970 Jim Plunkett
1969 Steve Owens
1968 O.J. Simpson
1967 Gary Beban
1966 Steve Spurrier
1965 Mike Garrett
1964 John Huarte
1963 Roger Staubach
1962 Terry Baker
1961 Ernie Davis

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:21PM CST
Heisman winners from the past 20 years...

2008 Sam Bradford
2007 Tim Tebow
2006 Troy Smith
2005 Reggie Bush
2004 Matt Leinart
2003 Jason White
2002 Carson Palmer
2001 Eric Crouch
2000 Chris Weinke
1999 Ron Dayne
1998 Ricky Williams
1997 Charles Woodson
1996 Danny Wuerffel
1995 Eddie George
1994 Rashaan Salaam
1993 Charlie Ward
1992 Gino Torretta
1991 Desmond Howard
1990 Ty Detmer
1989 Andre Ware

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:22PM CST
USF/Rutgers right now, the comparison's to KU are noteworthy, but mainly, 3 teams that were flashes in the pan...

Wonder how many piles of wood Rutgers U has back behind their practice field--they keep 'choppin', choppin', but not much of it is burning..

Guess it would be hard to fire Leavitt since he basically 'made' the FB team there.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 7:25PM CST
SG

Point taken.....when did ESPN come into power?

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 7:27PM CST
Whats going on in here?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:31PM CST
Nish,
not much, but maybe you can inject some life..

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:31PM CST
I just don't even think that second list holds a candle to the first.

There is so much politicking involved anymore. It's supposed to be awarded to the most outstanding player in college football. Period.

Not the guy who's most valuable to his team. Or someone that puts together a nice career. Or the best player on the best team. Or the guy ESPN chooses to jock for the entire season. Or who has the best story. Or the player who has at least played two years. Or the guy with the most pro potential.

The best college football player in the nation. As I said before, I feel like this has rarely been the case in the past 20 years.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:34PM CST
Nish, Can I be an usher?

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:35PM CST
Low...

Eessh. Not sure. Maybe 1980?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:36PM CST
that's way too indepth for me tonight, SG...k, I'll agree, the past 20 or so Heisman winners all sucked...

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 7:36PM CST
Oh Yeah PT,
Your more then welcome. Your apart of my Husker family and I would want to share that special moment.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:36PM CST
Damn. I was close. September 7, 1979.

Perhaps they didn't get into their groove of manipulating the masses until '89.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 7:39PM CST
Wow, news travles fast. You know I haven't even met the bride,
or the best man, or anyone else in the weding party. I figure if there Huskers fans they have to be beautiufl people, right?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:41PM CST
Bradford, Tebow, Bush, Crouch, Palmer were all absolutely a discredit the the Prize.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:44PM CST
bru...

Haha. Thanks. I win!!

Man, all I'm sayin' is, I don't care if Suh wins the Heisman. I'd be more impressed with him winning a team award (like the Novak or Chamberlin trophies).

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 7:47PM CST
SG

Coincidentally the same time the Heisman became a popularity contest ESPN became a part of ABC.....it's called marketing and ABC is very good at it.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:48PM CST
It was a career award for Crouch. Grossman was better than he was that year, but was a Soph, which was a no-no until Lord Tebow came along.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:50PM CST
If Big Suh doesn't win all the other lineman and MVP defensive guy awards then something's definitely wrong w the system.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:50PM CST
Oh yeah, I forgot to add to my list...

"Or best skill position guy..."

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:52PM CST
BRG is a finalist for butthead of the year

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 7:54PM CST
did BRG get canned from here after his tirades the other week?

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 7:56PM CST
BruNo,
I think so.
That was incredible.
Outstanding.

Darn I was hopig BRG would be the Masters of Ceremony

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 7:57PM CST
Yup. Somebody called the blog police on him.

Posted by: Sabado Gigante on November 12, 2009 7:58PM CST
Low...

I think that's unfortunately the case. ESPN has made it a circus. They hype it all season. Get their opinions into the ears of all the voters. And then it's "Oh my gosh! We never saw that coming a mile and half away!"

I'm sure it feels good to be recognized. Definite pats on the back to anyone who gets to own that trophy. But I'm not going to put incredible amounts of stock into its legitimacy as the ultimate voice in crowning the best college football player in any given year.

It's pretty much the BCS to me.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:00PM CST
He must have, Victoria said she took care of him, w/e that means...and he hasn't been around since.

Wonder if they blocked his IP, a dude such as that I'd think would make another id within a few minutes of being taken down.

Or maybe he's just taking time to chill.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:00PM CST
PT,
You know I got spanked regarding that whole incident. I was a victim. Was told not to threaten anyone on here no mo

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:02PM CST
I thought 'Victoria' was everybody's 'friend'. She's on my 'friends' list I know that much, and I didnt even agree to be her 'friend'.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 8:02PM CST
Nish

Quit crying and take your medicine!

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:02PM CST
Or perhaps he grew tired of hanging out with inferior fans such as us.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:03PM CST
Well there was that other blogger who I suspect was BRG under a different screen name.
The whole incident was very AOL

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:06PM CST
yea,
they can block your IP, absolutely.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:06PM CST
He was a strange kid. He tried to come back as you know you know and the Mother of you know you no. all are gone. He would be just fine and then he would snap. I think that is called meth.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:07PM CST
We don't wear Jason Peter slippers, wear Tommy Frazier Jammies to bed, paint our fridges red with a big white N and fill it with runzas or light a candle at night under our Husker Shrines and make a wish as we blow the candle out.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:07PM CST
Low, Great Avater of Barney, but your missing the mustache

Posted by: drivebyposter on November 12, 2009 8:07PM CST
Nish you were the problem. You and luby. I think PT was in there as well.

He came back as some other name. Then his mom showed up as well.

PT?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:10PM CST
I have BR jammies, wearing them now as a matter a fact, but no, they are not tommie touchdown jammies.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:11PM CST
All of us tried to talk some sense into him. We needed therapy dude. BRG needs a twelve step program.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:11PM CST
Driveby,
Thats not ture. He was sporting to much wood for Jason Peter. This is a Husker blog not a man crush blog.
I just stated I didn't think Jason Peter belong on the Husker Staff. Still believe it.

If we all got pissed of everytime somone didn't agree with us, we would be pissing all over each other
and thats a whole nother blog, adult content.
GROSS!

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:11PM CST
lol driveby yep we were the problem sure.

Maybe the cure

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:13PM CST
Russ has his Christmas avatar up.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on November 12, 2009 8:13PM CST
Man it is boring....guess I'm out, talk to you all tomorrow




Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:14PM CST
No PT, YOU were provoking him with your insidious 'nice guy' routine. We are on to you broham..

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:14PM CST
Sorry I brought it up. My bad.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:16PM CST
That's my I wish it would snow around here avatar.

BRG wasn't all bad just kinda bipolar and goofy sometimes.

He didn't like anyone talking bad about the Huskers unless it was him.

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:17PM CST
Well, it worked didn't it? He He he.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:17PM CST
You know if I had Tommy touch down under roose or Jason Peter slipper. I wouldnt brag out it in front of a buch of men
no way

Posted by: Gofor2 on November 12, 2009 8:17PM CST
Luber, LOL is that snow falling on a Geezer(gofor2)?





Posted by: drivebyposter on November 12, 2009 8:18PM CST
sheesh nish, I was there I was on him a bit as well. But he sure got rude. I am convinced it was drinking. Happened systematically.

I though his "mom" looked like a fishmonger....from her avatar.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:20PM CST
oh oh, c what dr lou has to say...

Posted by: PT Husker on November 12, 2009 8:21PM CST
For his sake I hope it is drinking DBP. You can cure that. Meth is another issue. I have a family member that is dealing with it.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:23PM CST
Dr. Lou was unusually vapid tonight...

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:23PM CST
It's no biggie,
It was forgotten for me the next day
Rluben step in and told BRG to back off and the guy went nuts

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:23PM CST
driveby I know you're just being your sarcastic self, we tried to get him to relax then he went ballistic on everyone for like the 50th time in a month.

No biggie, I didn't want to see him kicked off, just to chill a little and quit attacking everyone all the time. It was like that from the beginning to the end...from the time the new format was up until he was kicked.

Sometimes it's hard to tell driveby, you seem like you don't care too much for most of us around here, but at least you aren't hateful n seriously rude about it and you have a good humor.

Plus you know your football, you told us it was going to be rough this yr, especially on O.

Not as bad as you predicted it'd be but that's thanks to our Defense...I don't think any of us saw them being this good on D, good yeah sure, but this has been a pleasant surprise on D so far.

Posted by: drivebyposter on November 12, 2009 8:24PM CST
Yup it was a tough one. Seemed pretty smart, not as smart as lubes, but he just got rude so fast. Even to me and I am a sweet type of person.

sleep tight and dream about malls.

gbr

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:25PM CST
yea, Nish, but what about your GBR man thong? Would you or wouldn't you brag about it?

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:26PM CST
lol gofor2 no, it's a bench so you can rest on your hike old man.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:26PM CST
The "GBR" being stategically woven within the thong design of course.

Posted by: huskerdog/colo. on November 12, 2009 8:27PM CST
Paterno & Bowden are both arrogant egomaniacs! Coaching college football @ 80, give me a break! Give somebody else a shot! Damn USCum "DROPS" to 12th after being annihilated by Obegone! Huskers STILL aren't back in "top 25! NO RESPECT - NO COVERAGE! Little state in the middle of nowhere complex! Lets hope & pray MR. SUH at least gets an invite to the BIG APPLE!!! PS That big ANIMAL MANGINO can come wash the "DOGS" car ANYTIME!!

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:27PM CST
On the way to the outhouse

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:28PM CST
Rluben,
you remember the other night when I was sticking up for Busie, then you stepped in?
Some how Wreslter got it turned around I was giving Busie a hard time.


Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:29PM CST
DOG,
nice take bro...;)

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:30PM CST
He did? Must be sleep deprived.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:32PM CST
I'm a little doubtful that 'wrestler' is a Harvard grad, or whatever Ivy league school he noted.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 8:37PM CST
I don't recall him ever saying he was an Ivy league grad.


Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:39PM CST
Yeah, he claimed I talked about hitting him in a previous blog. huh? If I wan't to threaten somone there are plenty of people I can find in Vegas.


Oh yeah he also said I was banging on Sooners fans and thats why he stuck up for Buise saying was banging on her for being a LSU fan

GO BIG Drama

I like college football fans who like college football fans

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:39PM CST
yea, he did the other day...

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:44PM CST

Posted by: Wrestler on November 10, 2009 4:01PM CST
TommyOC I live and teach at university in HK. I have an MBA from an Ivy League school.

_________________

'Juice' thread...

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:46PM CST
USF is ranked #24?! What a complete joke! They look like a study in ineptitude tonight.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 8:50PM CST
Ok enough Drama.
So who's starting at QB Keyser Söze ?

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 8:55PM CST
Jay Daniels, a frosh QB looks completely flustered on every play. 21-0 Rutgers, 3rd Q.

Posted by: bruNo on November 12, 2009 9:06PM CST
guess I'm out,

c ya'll 2morrow..

;)

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 9:11PM CST
mmm...wrestler doesn't come off as someone who tells lies to make himself look better.

Only thing I see is maybe his use of a ? after every sentence instead of a period, but then people have their own styles.

Maybe english lit and courses like that weren't his strong suit much like math isn't some folks gig.

I can type 60+ words a minute with no errors if I practice it a little, but no way in hell am I holding my hands like that just to type a few words..it's uncomfy as heck to me. I have weird twisted wrists that don't like being forced to do something unnatural.

Like using a curl bar that doesn't have a bend in it or something of that nature.

So what I'm saying is maybe he's capable, but does it his own way.

Posted by: rluben on November 12, 2009 9:12PM CST
Later Bru, have a good one.

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 9:14PM CST
Rluben,
I logged on here yester day and Wreslter was telling Busie how he was upset becasue Bloggers like me were critizing LSU and Sooner fans.
That is so far from the truth

Anyway hows the weather in Seatle

Posted by: HankBo on November 12, 2009 9:23PM CST
umm Suh is just a badass and thats that
Crick is THE ideal nebraska player, (huge farm boy) and Cody green is a stud...
that is all

Posted by: NishBigRed on November 12, 2009 9:25PM CST
Luben
and company
come over to PJ tracking.

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