Life in the Red Group

Posted by: HuskerMonster on August 19, 2010 8:54AM CST Ahhh Spit....

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on August 19, 2010 9:07AM CST Enjoyed reading your article on Bo and Media Ban, Sip. But You did not stick to your purpose. You made your point but you also made HIS POINT as well. Now my friend, you can't have both ways. This is not Texas. I think someone mentioned a certain young fellow who asked the wrong question (after Bo considered the issue dead) and his tone was not all that nice. Maybe one of you need to take him aside and give him some unsolicited advice on do and don'ts. But it could have been just what you said in your article: twitter, texting, agents, media, internet, and all of it added together breeds the wrong speculation and issues that should not be issues develop a life of their own. You are right, its not the 70's anymore.

Posted by: Gofor2 on August 19, 2010 9:07AM CST Don't worry Sipp when your off, if anything important happens it'll be on the blog anyway. One of the fall outs of the whole new 24 hour news cycle is that reporters are usually the last to know stuff. Don't get me wrong though, I think you guys are still needed. But more for opinion and perspective.

Posted by: ancient1 on August 19, 2010 9:07AM CST I think Bo doesn't ask for too much; just integrity, commitment, accountability. When the trust he places in people is abused can you blame him for getting angry? Generally the working press is cooperative and accountable but when some visiting jerk abuses the trust given him and gives out information inappropriately you can bet the press is all over it. So what do you do when trust is abused?, ban the press?, ban the visitors? The problem is that is largely a waste of effort. People, by and large, cannot be trusted to keep a confidence and he might as well accept that fact, shrug his shoulders and get on with coaching the best way he knows how.

Posted by: Big Wave Dave on August 19, 2010 9:12AM CST Oh ya, and don't forget the outside idiots that pay others for access and abuse it, and bother family when they want to be left alone. Sheeesh........ When a FAN pays for an 'Insider Info' sport gig, what do you think is going on? A lot of abuse of privacy, period.

Posted by: TwinsRRus on August 19, 2010 9:20AM CST Think this decision could have a little to do with T.O.? Gotta love physical practices, but hate the injuries. They'll be game ready by the first game. Ready to kick some butt!

Posted by: Gofor2 on August 19, 2010 9:20AM CST BWDAVE LOL, "This isn't Texas." Nice one.

Posted by: Stuckinkansas on August 19, 2010 9:25AM CST My first post in over 2 years just got me in trouble on the other thread because it was old news and not on topic, so i'll try and bring something fresh to the table this time. Who do you guys think our starting QB will be? OR What are we going to do without Suh? There, 2 questions that i have not seen any posts about............

Posted by: jewfrat1 on August 19, 2010 9:26AM CST I don't know when we crossed the line where we feel we're all entitled to know everything, but it's annoying. Media? Look, you guys have a job to do, sure, but the whining and excuses about how you HAVE to do something because it's your job just don't cut it. Bo got ticked because people were calling Fisher's family to find out about the injury. How uncool is that? Agree with Gofor2 in some sense because indeed, most writers are there just for opinion and perspective anymore. You guys rarely write straight news stories, which honestly is just the age we now live in and it's accepted. We get the game day stories and stats and those are awesome, then the rest of the time it's writing things of "interest". That's all good, but when people in media feel they are entitled to cross the line to gain information, as though somehow that justifies their "scoop", it's too much. Way too much rationalization goes on in the media anymore. Know what? We'll still love and follow our Huskers, whether you guys have access or not. From the articles you and Shatel wrote on this, it came across that somehow you were the important ones, as though we couldn't get by without you. That was YOUR rationalization for whining about it. Trust me, you're not that important. We read you guys; we chat with you guys; but you're just a cog. The important ones are those we follow and we'll get our fill whether someone tries to get a scoop on something or not. I went to school for journalism. I hate the way it has gone to this National Enquirer-type model. I'm disappointed the mindset of media members has shifted to what I mentioned earlier, this sense of entitlement. Know what? Maybe we don't need to know everything and maybe we don't need to know it "right this minute". I'm sure I'm in the minority on all this, but I'm OK with it. :)

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on August 19, 2010 9:26AM CST Hey Sip....awesome piece earlier on the appetite for information by husker fans...very well put!!!

Posted by: Stuckinkansas on August 19, 2010 9:27AM CST On a less sarcastic note; The whole Anthony Blue thing is quite a bummer. Poor guy can't win it seems. I really feel for this kid. Did he get a med redshirt for last season?

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 9:27AM CST Who, according to Sip, bans the media from practice.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 9:41AM CST 4 and counting. Spano is not recoverd fully but I am counting him. Smith, fischer, (projected starter), and Blue. 2 broken legs. Hapenstance I guess. Does feild turf play a part? Just asken

Posted by: TomOs on August 19, 2010 9:42AM CST Watched some of the CU game last nite on ALT channel.. the last year of BC.. 51-65 loss.. saw Blue playing, Suh, P.Allen, what a difference a few years and a Defensive coach makes..

Posted by: CBHusker on August 19, 2010 9:45AM CST Sounds like Bo had a bit of an emotional reaction to two injuries, some leaks and one knucklehead contacting the Fisher family at the wrong time. Glad to hear he's backing off a little after making his point. Hope he can work things through with the media(most of whom seemed to handle this the right way) and how to handle visitor passes. PS- SIP, put away the putter and git back to work!

Posted by: HuskerInCO on August 19, 2010 9:53AM CST "Ahhhhhh cinnamon and gravy!" - Gus Chiggins

Posted by: Blackshirtbacker on August 19, 2010 10:00AM CST jewfrat1 - You voiced many of the same opinions I have on this subject. But, I will say this. I think Coach Pelini has improved his media skills quite a bit over the past couple of years. I also think he needs to get out in front of stories. In essence what I am saying he needs to learn to use the media as his tool to make this program the best it can be. He will get the message out to everyone (fans, recruits, donors, etc.) he wants them have. In this day and age you just can't have a total media block out because information will get out. A coach's wife will have a friend, a student sits next to a football player in class, one of the trainers is talking to his brother, and so on and so forth. All it takes is for one of these people to get on a message board like this where they can post anonymously, or do the same except to call a sports radio show. The rumors will flow, and there will be no way to put the genie back in the bottle. So in this day and age, I think a coach, or athletic department, should get more media savy. Use the media to put your message out there before the rumor mill gets to cranked up and you lose total control of what people are perceiving to be the truch. Perception becomes reality? Make sure people are getting the perception you want them to have.

Posted by: Steve Sipple on August 19, 2010 10:01AM CST Thanks for the feedback, all. I have start reading this stuff more often. I'm taking a lot of calls on the column, and it's really a mixed back of reaction. Man, there's always some sort of drama in preseason camp. Always.

Posted by: CBHusker on August 19, 2010 10:06AM CST Blackshirtbacker- Right on the money. Pelini just has to learn to stay ahead of the curve(granted that's tough these days). Having someone give a quick statement of what happened on the injuries to tide over reporters who are obligated to come up with something would help in this situation.

Posted by: haha on August 19, 2010 10:16AM CST I would hate to see how he would react if he went through an injury filled season like the Sooners last year.

Posted by: jewfrat1 on August 19, 2010 10:23AM CST Blackshirtbacker, beautifully said. :)

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 10:30AM CST I love to hear about the Husker practices, the interviews with coaches and players and all of that all of the time. I can't help it I was raised that way, the Husker way. With all of the attention these players get I am strarting to sense that they are not as humble as maybe they should be. Some of the humility doesn't seem genuine. Perhaps it is just confidence and not the U of Miama circa 80's and 90's attitude. It could just be I have a fairly low IQ. Sipp, now that you don't have to cover practice you should have plenty of time to read this gibberish - which I thoroughly enjoy.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 10:33AM CST Sip, you and your compadres have a job to do. So does Bo. He has acknowledged that he needs to work on his Media relations. I do admire your restraint at LJS. You have told us repeatedly that you will not comment on rumors an inuendo at I for one appreciate that. I feel he was justified but might have overreacted just a bit. Hopefully some of your less professional comrades got the message. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 10:38AM CST Sip - Good column today. I agree with the vast majority of what you have to say, especially: -The fan's appetite for info -The struggles of the print/broadcast media to keep up with "citizen reporters" who are not held to the same journalistic and accountability standards -Your advice to Bo to essentially recognize the hunger & passion and get ahead of stories to (as my PR prof used to say) "control the message" However, I do disagree on a couple of your points: -"Limiting media access to Husker players and coaches would in some ways punish those fervent and loyal fans that help define the program, and help pay Bo’s salary." Let's be real - this is the middle of fall camp and there is not much newsworthy (other than injuries) going on. The depth chart (if we are to believe what has been written for the past 3 years) is open up to (and through) Sept 4, so the QB question is not going to be answered, nor are any of the other position battles. All we miss are minor comments about who is performing well. In my world, that's not a big loss. Also, to imply that an August profile piece on say, Alfonso Dennard is ultimately reflected in Bo's paycheck is like saying the cheeseburger I bought at McDonalds makes integral to the beef industry. Technically true, but a stretch none the less. Let's not forget the impact that Husker football has on the LJS. A separate web presence, dedicated reporters and staff, books, t-shirts, blogs, etc. It is no stretch to say that limited media access negatively impacts your ability to bring your product(s) to market. -It seems that you're arguing that the "traditional" media should have more access while the potential "citizen" reporter (ex player, booster, connected fan, etc) should have less because they are more of a risk to share "insider" info to the hungry masses. While it's true that I (and many others) have given credibility to certain posters with alledged insider sources, there is no (easy) way to a) know if what they post is accurate and b) know for sure that it's not credentialled media member anonymously trying to generate hits. I believe that the LJS, OWH, and most of the TV and radio outlets value journalistic integrity, but sometimes I question it. -"Osborne knew the reporters (in the 80s). There was a level of coach-media trust that’s difficult to achieve nowadays." Personally, I think that's good. One of the reasons I prefer the LJS & OWH to the content provided by huskers.com is that I know you guys aren't afraid to break news and express opinions that may offend the coaches. The UNL media (huskers.com and SportsNightly) is largely a controlled message. Again, a good column today. As always, we the fans appreciate your time, dedication, and ability to bring us all a little closer to the team we love.

Posted by: The Wonderful Wizard on August 19, 2010 10:40AM CST The Wiz also wants to remind Husker fans we lost Matt Holt, a walk-on LB who actually played quite well as a freshman in 08, but was hurt last year. Holt would have provided some depth at LB this year. Nebraska boy. Another quality Husker hangs it up due to injury. The Wiz predicted last week that injuries might be our biggest opponont in 2010. Unfortunately, it is may be coming to fruition. Not good news. We need all of our top 50 healthy. The loss of Sean Fisher is a big blow. No more injuries please.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 10:51AM CST You always have injury's and some of them are season, if not, career ending. At least the Huskers now have some depth that will help overcome this. The top programs are able to sustain great football with the loss of very good players. It builds character.

Posted by: Blackshirtbacker on August 19, 2010 10:52AM CST Jewfrat1 and CBHusker - Thank you for the comments. Outside the Box - I loved reading your post. I thought it was very well thought out. I wonder what would happen if one reporter from each major media outlet were allowed to attend practice. I am talking all of the radio TV stations, newpapers with a certain circulation level, print magazines, and web-sites who have been around for a set amount of time who could show they attract a certain amount of visits each day. The Nebraska Football beat writers/reporters there everyday anyway. This would probably result in about 10-15 reporters showing up to watch practice each day. Could not an agreement be worked out on what is fair game to be reported and when it could be reported? For instance, the Fisher/or any player injury could not be posted until 30 minutes after practice finishes so the University would have a chance to contact the family first.

Posted by: bigred-Ore on August 19, 2010 10:58AM CST It seems it would be in Bo's best interest to keep his information director on speed dial and issue immediate "canned" messages for these situations i.e. Jon Doe and Joe Smith were forced to leave practice today due to injury. More information will be provided by the coach as it becomes known. Along with an admonishment to respect the privacy of the player and family.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 10:59AM CST I have a question. When we hear some kid is injured (in a major way) during pre-season camp, why is it SOO important to find out who that you would call the highschool coach and the parents? In my view, that makes the person that dialed those numbers, a complete and utter scumbag. By getting the name out there in a "scoop", what have you won? Not one damned thing. All you managed to do was upset the kids family, while they were stressed about an operation on their son. Personally, I hope Bo finds out who the person was, and permanently bans them from all Husker Football facilities and functions. I would even ban who ever they work for, be it LJS, OWH, who-ever. Papperazzi crap like that, has no place here.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 11:01AM CST I would rather talk about the injuries themselves. Milehigh is correct. We are better able to cope with them than last year. It sucks for the player but the team is better quippped to handle this than even last year. Props to Bo for his redshirt program. But, two broken legs in a week? is that just (pardon the pun) the breaks of the game, or is feild turf an issue?

Posted by: MTHusker88 on August 19, 2010 11:09AM CST Time for Lavonte David to step up now...

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 11:09AM CST bread, Rock on.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 11:11AM CST Most respected media are honorable people, care about integrity, and want to get the story right without unnecessary intrusion. But, there are are few, in the guise of wanting a story, will call family members, parents, about a injury that has not been officially let out and maybe the parents have not be contacted yet. this to me crosses the line, and I can see why it would upset Bo or any HC for that matter. Another point I want to make is that if you are a privileged guest such as a former player or family to watch practice (the media have not been allowed to watch practice in the Bo era), you should know that it is an honor and you should follow the precepts that I am sure Bo has set for the privilege of watching practice. It is obvious that some cross the line. I am sure the message has now been sent. And in the future Bo will be the only guy talking about injuries. Yes, this is a different era, with all the different venues such as twitter, cell phones, etc. But decorum and respect never go out of style. I do think the LJS staff do a great job of trying to get the story right and not rely on rumors. GO Big LJS Sports writers. Go Big Red

Posted by: Gofor2 on August 19, 2010 11:14AM CST Sipp I've grown to respect you and BC, I appreciate your hard work. Your column today though seems to imply it's the fans fault and "your just feeding the monkey" as the Dude would say. Folks have desires for all sorts of stuff that's questionable and even downright excessive and harmful to themselves and others. That's human nature. We all have it We try and control ourselves and most of time are successful. But the folks that push for money, well that's another story. I'm sure I have this wrong, but it occurred to me as I read your column.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 11:15AM CST Football is a contact sport, but you hate to see season ending injuries. It happens, sadly, and I really feel especially for Blue who has endured so much. Teams that are successful are able to overcome the injuries, and I expect this team to do that as well.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 11:17AM CST One could compile all preseason injuries of the Division I, FCS or whatever it is called and categorize them to see what types of injuries occur and what type of surface it occurs on. All of that information is on the web these days and just needs to be thrown into a database that is structured to handle it. With Sipp and Brian no longer busy with practice they should be able to handle that.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 11:21AM CST In the article by Eric Olson, it does sound like Bo is softening his stance and may talk to the media after practice sooner than Saturday. There very fact that he talked with Eric is a good sign, and as he said so well he does not want this become like Fort Knox.

Posted by: MTHusker88 on August 19, 2010 11:21AM CST Aaron Green highlights....if you guys havent seen them check them out....also if your a highlight buff like me check out Malcolm Brown's Tape on youtube....Nuts....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOBcb6YyR2o&feature=search

Posted by: Gofor2 on August 19, 2010 11:21AM CST I/H Well stated. By the way as long as were talking about "full disclosure" anything you want to get off your chest?

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 11:22AM CST Sip....agree with others...you all need to quit doing these paparazzi things and embarassing your profession. Now get off the golf course and get us some information. :) Seriously, your efforts are appreciated and nice column. People can act like its 1970 in one respect yet they clamor for info like its 2010, so many fans want it both ways as well.

Posted by: Gofor2 on August 19, 2010 11:26AM CST Back to the salt mine of pain and suffering for me. Thanks for putting up with my BS and have some laughs folks, it's over before you know it. GBR PACT

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 11:26AM CST Mile Hi....I like the idea and we need the database to correlate this to how much stretching they were doing....we could be on to some Nobel type research! (Can't remember who first made the stretching remark....and no offense to that gentleman intended.)

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 11:27AM CST Gofor2, nope, my conscience is clear!

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 11:31AM CST Gofor 2 see you later, and you are right life's to short to not have fun and laugh.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 11:33AM CST I have read a lot about stretching in these posts as well. I particularly like the comment "bones don't stretch". That was a good one. I do Pilates 3 hours a week and my bones always feel like they are ready to break. But they haven't yet so stretching must have something to do with bones not breaking. Logical.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 11:39AM CST I guess another reason that my bones aren't breaking could be that I am not running 30 MPH and colliding with a 300 Lbs person running at 20 MPH.

Posted by: bigcajunhusker on August 19, 2010 12:01PM CST I agree with Sipple -- Bo needs to accept and embrace the new media. He needs to "tweet" (although I admit it is incredibly difficult to use the word "tweet" in the same sentence with "Bo Pelini"). He needs to use the new media to get his message out before they get it out for him. There is nothing wrong with him telling everyone, "Looks like we had a serious leg injury today. If he is out for long, that will hurt, but if he bounces back quickly, offenses beware!" This is just the way it is today. Make use of it. Fans (like me) want to know that Martinez ripped off a 65 yard run in practice. Ok, it was just practice, but I care about it.

Posted by: TruBlueRed on August 19, 2010 12:04PM CST Much as I like reading Sip's/Rays stuff I have to disagree with his latest article. Bo specifically asked the media not to report on injuries from practice, then when he brought it to their attention they said they would continue to ignore his directives?.........I think Bo is black and white and so is this. Calling the parents and coaches before it has been officially put out is tacky in my opinion. If the media wants Bo to play ball with them, they had better learn to do the same. After the way Lee was hounded in blogs and media I wouldn't give an interview this year if I was he.......seems like Sip wasn't a Lee backer last year either........I sent him an e-mail early last season saying Lee would be the starter this year:)

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:12PM CST Sure hope Bo relents and lets the media back to the Post Practice interview so we can put this to bed. Sheeeez

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 12:24PM CST personally, I hope Bo extends it until game week. He could maybe give a generic update twice a week. Let them suffer.....

Posted by: 4BigRed on August 19, 2010 12:25PM CST I remember when Bo started spring ball in 08 and was rather tight lipped about injuries, etc. We had a couple of bloggers (who no longer post) who just went ballistic and did the "I'm a season ticket holder and donator and I have a RIGHT to know what's going on with the team!" Needless to say, quite a heated discussion ensued. I've just always figured giving a donation and paying for tickets gave me the PRIVILEGE of watching the team and nothing more. Methinks that some folks think of themselves as perhaps a little more important and deserving of information than they really are. JMHO

Posted by: Wayne Gonyea on August 19, 2010 12:25PM CST Wiz is allowed to post here??? I was going to make a high-quality introspective post...but...Wiz posts here...

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:33PM CST Wayne, anybody is allowed to post here. Even you. :)

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:34PM CST And, Wayne, if you read a bit you will find that quality and introspection is not a requirement.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 12:36PM CST 4BR, its because most folks from my generation have some ingrained sense of entitlement. And it makes me sick. Its perverse to think that you DESERVE anything of the sort. You get what you pay for, and thats tickets to the game, and the right to claim yourself as a "program donor". But what they seem to feel is that they (apparently by being born) have a RIGHT to know every little detail of some kids life, just because he plays football. Give me all the team stuff I can handle, I like that idea. Even injury updates, but that doesn't mean we need to know 10 minutes after the kid hits the turf. If Bo lets the media back in practice, I hope he tells half the team to fake injuries and we have 15 ambulances on site.

Posted by: joe t on August 19, 2010 12:40PM CST Injuries are just part of the game...you never like to see them, but someone always steps up to fill the spot. Better now to get those guys reps than in mid-season when it's tougher to coach and teach someone new.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:40PM CST Bread, We also get a really cool book with all sorts of fabulous info.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on August 19, 2010 12:44PM CST Sip. I can't believe that you aren't reading our comments on a regular basis. You need our feedback to validate your articles. Since many of our bloggers think that I am really you, you especially need to read mine. God only knows what you might be saying on this blog.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:47PM CST Ray, you do not have me fooled. You are really Don Bryant You old Fox you.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 12:50PM CST so does anyone know if we have already officially "sold out" for every game this year? I would figure this year would be thoughest year to get tickets in quite some time.

Posted by: Mentally Red on August 19, 2010 12:52PM CST I love Bo and his program, but I wince a little sometimes when his anger flares. He comes off sometimes as being a little bit punitive and controlling when people don't comply with his wishes. Sip said these observers run back to their computers. Forget that, a lot of the info is probably being sent on the spot from blackberries and other such devices. Unless you get the TSA in there to screen your guests, you are going to have leaks. One thing they might consider is having non-media observers sign a short letter of agreement that spells out what is allowed and what isn't. This would at least put them on notice as to what the expectations are so they can't claim that they didn't know.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 12:52PM CST Ray, BTW, my single ticket offer to you still stands. If the wife is up to it just holler.

Posted by: the "Maxpower" on August 19, 2010 12:53PM CST Steve, with all due respect, Sean Callahan is not "citizen media", he's "media media".

Posted by: 4BigRed on August 19, 2010 12:55PM CST Inbread, I think they typically get back some tickets from the visiting team each game that go in a matter of minutes, but I think they also have a few hundred that go as general admission each game so they can't declare an official sellout until the day of the game. I could be way off on that though, so I just wasted your time. ;>)

Posted by: punt2win on August 19, 2010 12:57PM CST Nu is sooo luck to have TO. He has all the experience and then some of dealing with the media and public. Bo knows this hence he will sort it out. Sip/ BC keep it coming. Liked the last article sip, lets see how Bo and staff adjust.

Posted by: Mentally Red on August 19, 2010 12:59PM CST The media blackout is important to the handful of fans who sit by their computer everday begging for morsels of info. But I suspect that most fans are casual readers of such info and probably won't even realize that there is a blackout. Sometimes I will call friends back in Nebraska (who are fans) and make comments like "Sean Fisher just broke his leg" and they'll say something like "who?" They know who Suh and Niles Paul are, but the average fan doesn't necessarily hang on every tidbit of trivia like we do. This is our little world, but we need to remember that there aren't really that many people in it.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:00PM CST learning curves can be a painful thing.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:05PM CST Flic I assume you are retired.

Posted by: Ray in Bellevue on August 19, 2010 1:11PM CST PT. Thanks!

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:14PM CST Now I remember Flic. Have you been to the Steak house on Cornhusker Hiway? About 33rd I think.

Posted by: Big Red in Big D 007 on August 19, 2010 1:15PM CST huskers 2nd opponent is on espn2 and enderle thq qb from nebraska looks pretty good.

Posted by: Nebraskan in VA on August 19, 2010 1:15PM CST First time , seeing if this works

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:17PM CST 007, I thought that was Pay for View. Could be wrong however.

Posted by: Bbudus on August 19, 2010 1:19PM CST Mmmm...Flic, make the short hope to South Bend, NE. Right there by Mahoney State Park, hang a louie and go past the wildlife park. Round the Bend, very good steak, and last time I was there the Prime Rib was exceptional. GBR

Posted by: HuskerInGa on August 19, 2010 1:20PM CST I assume everyone has been to the "Red Out Around the World" website by now. I have a related question: what is the difference between "Wear red. Be loud. Beat Texas" and "Wear red. Be loud. October 16"? It seems like we are still calling out Texas. Has this been discussed? I recall all the hubbub about the "Beat Texas" part of the previously released video, but have not heard anything similar for this less-pointed slogan.

Posted by: From The General on August 19, 2010 1:21PM CST Forget about expanding the stadium - lets spend some money where it counts - pull up that turf & plant some real grass.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:25PM CST Nebraskan in VA. It worked. Talk to us.

Posted by: HuskerInGa on August 19, 2010 1:28PM CST That's all he had to say :)

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 1:31PM CST talkative sucker ain't he......;)

Posted by: Big Red in Big D 007 on August 19, 2010 1:33PM CST pt, watching the bowl game from last year. Just scouting the opponents. Can't get any info on the huskers so have to keep busy somehow

Posted by: HuskerInGa on August 19, 2010 1:36PM CST I have to +1 that Misty's is pretty good. Took my wife there once, and she said it was the best steak she had ever had...she is from New Jersey. They have a lot of cows there, but more known for producing milk (and great ice cream) than beef.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 1:39PM CST Jersey is known for being dirty, Jersey Shore, and their accents.

Posted by: justcallmeDoc on August 19, 2010 1:39PM CST Bread........lol

Posted by: HuskerInGa on August 19, 2010 1:43PM CST There is that too, but she's from the "Garden State" part, not the dirty (read "Shore") part. That said, on various trips up there, I have met some of her friends that could have come right out of Jersey Shore or possibly worse, the Real Housewives of New Jersey...not that I have ever seen that show.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 1:46PM CST yeah I've got relatives up that way. ITs not that bad of a place. Well if you dont count JErsey Shore, and housewives of NJ, and Mobsters part. I can live with the accents and the dirtiness....lol

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 1:54PM CST Dang, I had a question for Nebraskan in VA. Oh well.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 2:03PM CST you can ask me PT, I'll answer for him.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 2:06PM CST Charter has announced they are going to carry the Big 10 Network, did not say when though. As I understand you have to take their sports tier, which cost $5.00. I will sign up when it is available.

Posted by: NishBigRed on August 19, 2010 2:07PM CST Mentally Red, I would have to agree with you regarding those who are casual fans and those who maybe holding on a little too tight It has been over 20 years since the last time my zip code was Nebraska. With the events that have taken place the last 10 years there has been a few occasions I have asked myself why I’m still holding on to the Huskers. Following the Huskers. Attending Huskers games whenever they are on the west coast. I guess you can take the Husker fan away from the Husker but probably never take the Huskers out of a true Husker fan? I stop calling back years ago hoping to gain incite on the Huskers from those who where residing in Nebraska. For years I would call my mother hoping to find out (before the internet) some details on the Huskers. She usually would comment that the Huskers needed to fire there coach (this was the 90s). Please don’t kill the messenger. So it is media like this that most of us get our Husker fix. Sad as it maybe. Although there must be some rabid Husker fans still living in the state or there wouldn’t be 70,000 plus showing up for a spring scrimmage? So I guess if one is going to be a Husker fan I must get with the program and be happy with what is allowed to trickle out. We must always remember Bo is great Bo is good let us thank him for our food!! GO BIG RED

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:08PM CST Bread, What is the weather like at Virginia Beach around Christmas?

Posted by: Nebraskan in VA on August 19, 2010 2:20PM CST PT fire away

Posted by: N_trepid on August 19, 2010 2:20PM CST I was really hoping that this was the year we'd see Anthony Blue work back into the rotation. Terrible news, losing both him and Fisher for the year.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:22PM CST Nish. my admin just got back from Vegas. Her son is a Dermatology PA there.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:23PM CST VA, I am going fishing over Christmas At Virginia Beach. How many warmies do I need to bring.

Posted by: NishBigRed on August 19, 2010 2:30PM CST PT, admin? Vegas is really hurting right now. We have like a 30% foreclosure rate. On a bright side UNLV has a new head coach. The forth one since I have been here and that includes John Robinson. The Rebels have their fall camp in Eli about 400 (might be further) miles from Vegas. Limited media access. They play Wisconsin no-conference I will definitely be scouting out the badgers. PS BYU has declared as an independent. Just when I thought the MWC was going to be considered a real conference

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:30PM CST Not related to anything but I need to know. AQnd I am tired, VERY tired of talking about Bo and the Media.

Posted by: MSe on August 19, 2010 2:31PM CST Gotta tell ya, Sip, that it seems mostly like it's the media that is complaining about the "ban". I've listened to radio, watched local TV news and read local newspapers...and it's the media that is worked up the most about this. I've talked to quite a few other season ticket holders and most could really care less. The "ban" impacts your job and so it makes sense for you guys to be upset, but I think most media can't see the forest for the trees. You're too close to your own work to be able to step back with an objective view. On balance, fans seem to be able to wait for the ban to lift. The media??? That's another story - alot of ranting a raving out there, beating your chests. Just my little 'ole perspective.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:32PM CST Nish, We used to call them secretaries. Can't do that anymore. Not politically correct. Besides, she runs the place anyway.

Posted by: MileHiHusker on August 19, 2010 2:39PM CST MSe, "Couldn't care less" as apposed to "could care less."

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:45PM CST Nish, Her Kid was wanting to move up a notch. Recognized the buyers market. But he is way upside down in the house he now owns. Probably have to take at least $100,000 hit to sell the one he is in. The American Dream

Posted by: Nebraskan in VA on August 19, 2010 2:48PM CST PT I live 4 hrs west, last christmas had 15 inches of snow here (it sucked) can be cold, 40 to 50 temps, water temps 55 to 60, it can very alot every year. i would bring warm stuff. Have a great trip

Posted by: NishBigRed on August 19, 2010 2:56PM CST PT, you got mail. Everyone is upside down in Vegas regarding there home. Anyone thinking about moving out here for retirement now is the time. 500,000 homes are going for less than 100,000, you can find them for 50,000 on auction. I bought my home in 2001. At it's height it was valued at 400,000. I never pulled a lot out. If I sold it today I would be lucky to get 80,000

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 2:57PM CST Thanks Haven't been to VA since I was little. Looking forward to it.

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 2:58PM CST I haven't read all of the posts yet but according to Sip and Brian it's all over the board the way college football teams do the media thing. Personally I like the way Iowa does it. Two days of media prior to the start of the season and that's it. Obviously Coach Pelini doesn't like the media and feels it distracts his team's progress....that's good enough for me. It's more important to win then it is to hear a bunch of sensationalized gossip.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 2:59PM CST PT the weather at Virginia beach around Christmas time is usually between 35-55 degrees F. Going whale watching or something?

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 3:03PM CST ok, that is what happens when you show up an hour later.....lol

Posted by: Blackshirtbacker on August 19, 2010 3:03PM CST Inbread - Your idea with the ambulances made me smile. That would be one way to hurt the rumor mongers - give them to many rumors to dilute the impact of all them. MSe - I think you are right in your thoughts. I still don't see the ban as helping the NU football program, though. Like I was told several years ago by a wise old farmer, "Remember boy, you buy your ink by the pen, the media buys their ink by the barrel." I think he was also the same guy who told me, "Fighting a newspaper writer is like wrestling a pig in the mud. All that will happen is you will get dirty, and he will love it."

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 3:10PM CST Inbread..sorry if you're poking me.....I just didn't have anything to say about the weather at Virginia beach.

Posted by: drivebyposter on August 19, 2010 3:12PM CST ".......Gotta tell ya, Sip, that it seems mostly like it's the media that is complaining about the "ban......" So, Ray must be in the media?

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 3:15PM CST flea, poking you? No, if you read up a ways, I was responding to PT. None of my posts were either aimed at you, nor intending to poke you.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 3:15PM CST Inbread, Striper fishing

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 3:16PM CST inbread....my bad...sorry.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 3:17PM CST Tru...I read it a bit differently. I certainly have seen where bloggers on this site and others are posting information ahead of the LJS and this is another case of that. Given the contacts that I assume Sip, BC, et. al. have, I'm sure they knew this before we did but were following Bo's directive. The game changes once someone officially reports it or it gets posted and is all over the place. Some media may report this without a confirmation and some will require it. I don't know who first went with the story. I'm willing to bet it wasn't LJS or OWH since they have more to protect in terms of relationships with coaches. Note that the post which spilled the beans was not a reporter.

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 3:24PM CST Nish, you got a reply.

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 3:24PM CST PT - when fishing for strippers, do you fold the dollar like a tent or lay it flat in front of you? In my experience, they don't care for being poked.

Posted by: Nebraskan in VA on August 19, 2010 3:26PM CST speaking of mud, Take a look at Steve Spuriers new South Carolina training film at caterpillerwaterskiing.wmv(something to fill our mwdia blackout)

Posted by: PT Husker on August 19, 2010 3:26PM CST LOL Box. 1 p. Notice 1 p.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 3:26PM CST here is an interesting tid bit I copied from a different fan site I occasionally visit. It is a personal assessment from some one who went to practice the other day. It might at least spur some different conversation in this LITR box.... 1. Zac Lee looks and acts like the starter, carrying himself with the confidence that he gained from the bowl game last year--I am looking for him to have a big year, with situational duty for martinez in the wildcat formation and cody green some mop-up duty. 2. The trio of mcneill, paul and kinnie give us oustanding hands in the passing game and should help zac lee immensely in getting open--cannot imagine any secondary better than ours that they go against in practice--also very impressed with quincy enunwa--speed, elusiveness, good burst, tough--catching passes and kickoffs. 3. Helu, burkhead and robinson another formidable trio at running back looking great with their cuts and their bursts of speed after the cut. 4. The offensive line is deep, is talented and provides barney cotton a lot of options for playing time--expecting sirles to start at tackle over yoshi. 5. The defensive line is so solid and so deep--they showed some new wrinkles in their lineups in practice which i am not free to divulge--you will see them in games, but suffice it to say that the pelinis are becoming very imaginative with their various defensive formations. I do think we will miss the strength of suh up front--at first i don't think our defensive front will be as effective as last year, but game experience will take care of that. 6. The linebackers are good--very impressed with Lavonte David. 7. The secondary speaks for itself--deep, good on coverage--i do think we will miss the speed of matt o'hanlon making quick decisions on wide run support, and again i think game experience will help. 8. The kicking game is solid in all aspects. The practice got very intense towards the end and we were ordered out of the practice by Bo, as he worked the players extra after practice after a few altercations. I think we have one very tough game, and that is Texas--the other teams on our schedule are not complete-enough teams to beat us if we play our game. As much as we want to beat Texas, they will want this just as bad. I see the game as a toss-up, and we go into the conference championship game either 12-0 or 11-1. Barring injuries, suspensions, bad luck, it should be a great season

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 3:32PM CST Same difference PT. The one p and two p versions both involve the company of buddies (no wives), beer, poles, bait, and inflated stories of your success.

Posted by: drivebyposter on August 19, 2010 3:36PM CST Very good otb, very good. So dance to that one PT?

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 3:38PM CST inbread.....thanks for sharing. His/her perspective sounds reasonable and encouraging.

Posted by: Bornhusker on August 19, 2010 3:39PM CST Everybody with internet access thinks they're a reporter now. They think they have a right to know everything about everything and ask anything of anyone at any time. It would be like any of us going to work and finding 60 Minutes waiting in our office -- every day.

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 3:44PM CST Inbread - your post hits on a lot of the reasons why the media is - in general - much more put out about the ban than most of us. -That post provides more information about players and what to expect this fall than we've seen the entire fall (and in less than 400 words). -The post is written by a person who isn't named, isn't accountable if any of that stuff is bull, and isn't on deadline - but that person DID get almost complete access to at least one practice. -The insights and observations were available for free (assuming your board doesn't have a subscription) and the traditional media didn't make any money off of ads or subscriptions. They're stuck printing essentially the same stories as the LJS, OWH, DN, and other papers. -Even if the LJS or OWH sees that information like you did, they can't use it in the paper (or on this blog) because what credible publication is going to cite "Fullbacks_Forever_22" as their source? I am sympathetic to the plight of the folks in the traditional media - and it should be noted that I usually start with them as I like my news as rumor free as possible.

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 3:53PM CST Even though the bloggars aren't held to as high of standards as newspaper and tv stations there still is a certain amount of accountability to bloggars if false information is reported and there is damage caused by such blogs to those people.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 3:57PM CST whatever flea, thats a load of horse puckey. BTW, JAred Crick just moved to QB and has been named the starter........trust me

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 4:02PM CST Hmm...in one post Inbread says: "The defensive line is so solid and so deep--they showed some new wrinkles in their lineups in practice which i am not free to divulge--you will see them in games, but suffice it to say that the pelinis are becoming very imaginative with their various defensive formations. " Then in his next post he says: "JAred Crick just moved to QB and has been named the starter." If that's not credible than my name is not Outside the Box.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 4:04PM CST Inbread's post from the other site (and any like post here) also offers one person's opinion. That person could have been a former college head coach or could be an 18 year old who is pumping gas for a living. Sip and BC's articles are generally quoting the coaches and other players which is a whole different animal. The insight of a blogger may be a pile of gold or it may be a pile.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 4:08PM CST My opinion about media: They should 100% stick to the facts and not try to "scoop" anything. When I come here, I want cold hard facts, not supposition and speculation. That should be left to the bloggers like us. We can speculate and rumor all we want. Media folks need to quit this pitiful one upsmanship that has become prevalent in todays "news". And ESPN, is the worlds worst for that kind of crap. I haven't visited their website in years because of it.

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 4:09PM CST Well inbread you seem to have no shortage of horse puckey.

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 4:12PM CST The "facts" that have been reported on one day say how the offense is getting the better of the defense then the next day the safety, through the media, says the defense is holding. Pitting team mates against other to make a story more spicey doen't do anything to strengthen the team.....IMO.

Posted by: Inbread on August 19, 2010 4:14PM CST thanks flea!!! And does my post about Crick count as damage if he destroys some poor db who tries to tackle him?

Posted by: Bbudus on August 19, 2010 4:15PM CST If it has been aged, I'll take it, fall tilling of the garden you see. But if it is not aged...no thanks, to many weed seeds. GBR

Posted by: Nebraskan in VA on August 19, 2010 4:17PM CST my take on this is Bo got mad, 3 kids got hurt and I think his us against the world mentality that this team has kick in. The players have talked about it when an away game happens.(which we will need on the road this year big time) Three kids are hurting, the team is hurting because of it. His focus needs to be on them, not us. I want my husker fix like everyone else, but more than anything I want Bo to take care of the kids. Sip while you have some free time on your hands can you tell me how we can show our support to the hurt players, or any husker player by way of email, cards etc. Would love to somehow show my support. We talk about the media and Bo but not much about the hurt players and what may lay ahead of them.

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 4:18PM CST inbread....no but his mom might kick your ass when she shows up at the game and sees Jared wearing the same number.

Posted by: NishBigRed on August 19, 2010 4:19PM CST Information overload Who do we blame? The man that invented the portable video camera? With out him there would be no Rodney King Should we blame the man who invented the internet? (Al Gore) lol With out him there would be no blogs, U Tube, Face Book or Twitter. What’s done is done. You can only hope to contain it, or join the masses.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 4:27PM CST Inbread...no ESPN site visits? how can you keep up on the hourly movements of Brett Favre without visiting them? :)

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 4:27PM CST While waiting for a new thread, I won't be posting much tonight if any, and probably the same tomorrow. In about 2 hours, I take another a bottle of the nasty laxative. And I do mean nasty. It's only 10 ounces, but 10 ounces of really horrid tasting stuff. So will be living in the bathroom again this evening. No food after 6 pm, I can drink only water until midnight, then nothing at all until the scan is completed, which will be around noon tomorrow in Omaha. It's going to be a long evening and day tomorrow. The Scan itself will take three hours. So, I will have to put my game face on for sure. One step closer to knowing exactly what is happening and one step closer to a plan. The Lord is my strength and rock. My wife has been a trooper, I thank God, for her. I am a blessed man indeed. The post by inbread kind of verifies why Bo also closed the practice to guests. The individual may have some bias concerning certain players, so info is just that, and is not view the play from a coaching standpoint. I really don't have a lot of trust in nameless sources. In Sipple and BC I trust. Go Big Red.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 4:29PM CST There is ESPN Farve and ESPN Lebron, 24-7.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 19, 2010 4:32PM CST I/H....Dave Barry once described the stuff they have you take for a colonoscopy as so powerful that it empties your system and then travels ahead in time to find the food you will eat and eliminates that from your system as well. Best of luck tomorrow and continuing forward.

Posted by: Bbudus on August 19, 2010 4:34PM CST Good Luck tomorrow I/H, mom always used to tell when stuff was hitting the fan..."this to shall pass". That little saying got me through a whole crap load of tough times. GBR

Posted by: fleaflicker on August 19, 2010 4:35PM CST I/H....doesn't sound like any fun at all. You have your Faith and your wife to help you whip this thing. Good luck to you. GBR!

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 4:37PM CST Dave Barry is so funny, love his stuff.

Posted by: Outside The Box on August 19, 2010 4:48PM CST I/H - I'd suggest getting a laptop. If you're going to camp out on the bathroom, you might as well have the company of fools like us to help pass the time. Just be sure to use a Chlorox wipe on the laptop before family members use it... As always, be prepared for waves of positive thoughts coming your way as you drive by Lincoln.

Posted by: Islander/Husker on August 19, 2010 4:57PM CST OTB - a laptop would be nice for sure, but right now, not in my budget. I do take a book so that helps. Right now I am reading a Spenser Novel, by Robert B. Parker, "Hundred Dollar Baby." A nice escapist book.

Posted by: Robka on August 19, 2010 4:58PM CST Ahhhh longing 4 the old days when a blackberry was a tasty fruit and not an all access, all knowing tracking device. GO BIG CRACKBERRIES SUCK!!!

Posted by: deadred on August 19, 2010 6:37PM CST bo was right for setting an example WOULD ANY OF YOU REPORTERS INCLUDED WANT TO BE BO AND TAKING A CALL FROM A PLAYERS FAMILY WHO JUST GOT A CALL FROM SOME REPORTER ASKING ABOUT YOUR SONS INJURY BEFORE YOU WERE INFORMED BY SCHOOL I DONT THINK SO AND BO IS THE ONE GOING TO TAKE THE BRUNT OF IT IF HUSKERS DONT PREFORM WELL AND BO WILL BE OUT THE DOOR I THINK BO WAS MAKING A POINT FAMILIES OFF LIMITS AND ITS A GOOD POINT BUT BO NEEDS TO BE SMARTER BECAUSE THERES NO WAY OF KEEPING NEWS UNDER WRAPS LIKE MARTINEZ MISSING PRATICE INSTEAD OF WAITING TO BE ASKED ABOUT IT BO SHOULD HAVE STARTED THE INTERVIEW BY SAYING MARTINEZ MISSED PRAQTICE IT WAS EXCUSED AND END OF THAT LETS MOVE ON ILL TAKE BO AND MEDIA BLACKOUT ALL DAY OVER CALAHAN GO BIG RED

Posted by: BlackShirtsJ on August 20, 2010 12:10AM CST I think they need to find out who it was that was calling family members and the HS coach and ban them from the rest of fall practice at the least. That is way over the line, you call the coach and school for that information not mom and pop.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Husker on August 20, 2010 1:31AM CST PT.....good sandwiches at Va Beach at a place called "The Jewish Mother"