Life in the Red Group

Posted by: fightinthedog on June 18, 2010 3:49PM CST If you beat someone 10+ in a row, they start to hate you.

Posted by: ShawneeHusker on June 18, 2010 3:50PM CST Since milk is the official state beverage for both Nebraska and Wisconsin ...... the battle for the "Milk Bottle"

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 3:50PM CST No matter who they make our year end game, no matter how they split the divisions, our schedule improves 10 fold in the Big Ten.

Posted by: huskers79 on June 18, 2010 3:51PM CST Sounds good to me! Bring on the big 10! GBR!!

Posted by: RedAether on June 18, 2010 3:53PM CST I wonder how much of this move being a good fit is actually due to Bo Pelini being our coach? He cut his teeth in the Big10, and plays a very modern Big10 style of football.

Posted by: CBHusker on June 18, 2010 3:54PM CST It'll be good to have friendly rivals like Oklahoma used to be before they and T-boone State became Texas-style lap dogs.

Posted by: RedAether on June 18, 2010 3:59PM CST I still need to think about a name for Wisconsin, but how about Ethanol Bowl for Iowa?

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 3:59PM CST Hey BC got a question. Considering how NU's revenue dropped signficantly to 8th in the B12 with reason to believe that all the PPV games do not provide a significant revenue stream, are we contractually obligated to take the PPV game if our network partners choose to not take our non conference game? Here is why I ask. What would stop the Big Ten Network from picking up a couple of our non conference games if our network partners choose not to. It would give the BTN a chance to showcase their new partner (make a little money too), and give Nebraska some early exposure to new recruiting bases. It would also give our fans in the outlying areas that don't yet carry the BTN to start hounding their cable companies.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 4:00PM CST You bring The Cheese, we will bring the Beef. You can make something good with Beef and Cheese. Each bring their own beveridge of choice. After a good shared tailgate we can go play some Football. winner gets the leftovers.

Posted by: RedAether on June 18, 2010 4:01PM CST Although i think you need to have 4-6 years of competition, playing in both locations a few times, before any long term name gets coined.

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 4:05PM CST A lot of talk on Big Ten blogs pushing to make NU and Penn St a year end rivalry as it would be a showcase national game to go along with OSU and MU.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 4:06PM CST Red Antler, In keeping with by shared tailgate, The cheese state and the beef state. How about the cheeseburger bowl.

Posted by: fightinthedog on June 18, 2010 4:07PM CST I like that idea, J&D.

Posted by: Brian Christopherson on June 18, 2010 4:08PM CST j&d4nu, It's a good question. I don't know the answer to it yet. But I wonder if what you suggest is a possibility. I will say it's a bit of a misconception that pay-per-view telecasts hurt Nebraska financially. They don't. In recent years, since Pelini's arrival at least, Nebraska has made a little more from pay-per-view games than they do from most network games. http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2008/09/18/football/doc48d19d6eba8fe538879804.txt

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 4:11PM CST The thought seems to be that NU fans are taken advantage of because we are willing to pay $30 when IA St and Colorado fans among others wouldn't. If there is no contract limitations I would sure like to see us get some early exposure on the BTN.

Posted by: DerangedMuppet on June 18, 2010 4:15PM CST Now... I don't have anything against Wisconsin, but I remember some nice tight games with Penn St. that would come down to the wire. My 2 cents would like to see something with them... Although the Steak and Cheese Tailgates sound something that could be looked forward to yearly!! haha! PENN ST FOR THANKS GIVING!! GO BIG RED HUSKER POWER!!

Posted by: RedAether on June 18, 2010 4:18PM CST Well, it might be a hit financially to not have ppv games, but you would hope that the extra BTN revenue would cover most if not all of that. Also, it might make the U a little cash, but for us "small people"(oh BP, what are we going to do with you?) ppv can get expensive.

Posted by: GreenBrterRed on June 18, 2010 4:21PM CST I think Iowa and Nebraska should play to see who gets Council Bluffs...the game loser is responsible for the next year.

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 4:22PM CST Heck I'd give the game to the BTN for free. Should we end up having to pay the exit fee to the B12 with this years revenue screw them, BTN can have the game at no charge.

Posted by: DerangedMuppet on June 18, 2010 4:25PM CST j&d4nu.. You Said it.. Unfortunately since we're still playing the Big Texass Conference this year, sounds highly doubtful that we'll get any airtime on the BTN... Don't get me wrong, cause I would LOVE to see some early coverage to "Bring Nebraska into the Folds of the Big Ten!" Maybe let em start sweating & not looking forward to us coming in to demolish and OWN The Big 10??? hahahahahaha!!

Posted by: RedAether on June 18, 2010 4:26PM CST We dont "pay" anything, even if we are held responsible for it. it is simply deducted from our share of B12 collected revenues. BTN wont be paying the B12 for anything.

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 4:30PM CST I figure there would be a logical reason holding back a couple non conference games with the BTN this season, but I would sure like to find out for sure.

Posted by: j&d4nu on June 18, 2010 4:33PM CST I like Penn St vs. NU to end the season the more I think of it. The Big Ten could own ABC on Thanksgiving weekend. NU/Penn St on Friday afternoon, OSU/MU and Wisc/Iowa on Saturday, eliminating the perceptions that the Big Ten is forgotten by December.

Posted by: DerangedMuppet on June 18, 2010 4:36PM CST hahahaha GreenBrterRed!! Yeah.. That'll Fly... Who doesn't want to take care of the red-headed Step Child Council Bluffs More!!! Loser has to babysit!

Posted by: Uncle Fester on June 18, 2010 4:36PM CST I don't know about that coach. How does one decree a rivalry into existence? Sure, being members of the same conference makes every team a conference "rival," but I think he means something else. Rivalries develop over time, and they often involve controversy. IF NU were staying in the Big 12, last year's Texas game would have been one of the building blocks that creates a rivalry (if it didn't already exist). I doubt that a rivalry of respect, as the coach calls it, would be any kind of rivalry. Something is going to happen in a couple of games with a particular opponent that draws the lines of a genuine rivalry. If I had my druthers, the rival would be one of the traditionally schools, but I'll just have to wait and see.

Posted by: Uncle Fester on June 18, 2010 4:39PM CST Whoops. "one of the traditionally strong schools..."

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 5:02PM CST Fester. I would seem that the Big 10 has losts of tradition built over the years. Lots of little trophies for games between schools. I think it speaks well that the badgers, or at least their coach are trying to include us. Kind of makes one feel welcome.

Posted by: shotbuck on June 18, 2010 5:07PM CST GreenBrterRed, Are you talking the loser of the game has to take Council Bluffs? I sorta lean towards Penn St for the rivalry, already some history there between the teams. And besides I can't stand them!!

Posted by: N_trepid on June 18, 2010 5:28PM CST I think Bielema was just offering us a year-end home-and-away rivalry similar to what we had with Colorado, minus all of the unhinged pathology we saw from the Buffalo fans. They would LOVE to beat Nebraska. Do not look past Wisconsin. They've been fronting a pretty stout run game recently. This conference is going to prove much, much tougher than the Big XII north, and far more interesting.

Posted by: Huskersincebirth2 on June 18, 2010 5:36PM CST When Nebraska was in the expansion talk I was talking about a rivalry with Wisconsin. It would be a great replacement for OU. Wisconsin calls themselves the 'Big Red', their jerseys are the exact same as ours pretty much. It would be awesome. The new battle of the Big Reds!

Posted by: Bornhusker on June 18, 2010 5:36PM CST A rivalry with Penn State would be nice, but I don’t see an annual end-of-year game with them happening unless we’re in the same division. Moving Penn State to the Western division would make sense from a competitive standpoint, but so would moving Ohio State and Michigan to the West and Nebraska to the East. Either way, it’s a whole lot of travelling for somebody, and whoever has to do all that travelling had better be on board with it 100% or it shouldn’t be done. That said, Wisconsin could become a great rival, and I feel bad for them having their end of year game against Minnesota taken away from them by the conference. Much like what happened to us with Oklahoma when the Big 12 was formed. Wisconsin’s AD is a former Husker player and has tried to emulate Nebraska in everything he has done at Wisconsin. Uniforms and everything. I’m all for it!

Posted by: Viking Husker on June 18, 2010 5:49PM CST Ok, Wisconsin and Penn State would both be great rivals, but I think Iowa is the natural fit, even if it isn't an "end of the year game." Nebraska and Iowa are geographically close together and the states are both crossed by I-80, so fans in each state naturally interact out of necessity. Plus Iowa City isn't a long drive from Lincoln (like 4-5 hours?) Of course I'm biased. Growing up a Husker Fan 30 minutes from Iowa City, I've been in more than a few arguments. So I'm psyched for Bo and Co. to come into Kinnick Stadium and make my point for me.

Posted by: ShawneeHusker on June 18, 2010 6:04PM CST Since the little birds that ride on the back of the rhinoceros are referred to as "tick pickers", I vote for naming the "new" Big 12 Conference ......... "Texas and the Tick Pickers"

Posted by: kansas riccardo on June 18, 2010 6:04PM CST This is rich. Run away from your actual rivals and wait for the bureaucrats to tell you who your new rivals are. Suggestion: Cornell. They're Big Red, too, and Ithaca isn't that much farther than the rest of the Big 10. They have a really big research budget, I've heard, like you're other new friends.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 18, 2010 6:16PM CST Someone from Kansas came up for air finally. How do you like kissing Texass?

Posted by: Bornhusker on June 18, 2010 6:17PM CST kansas riccardo -- I think most of the bloggers here DO feel bad about not playing Kansas anymore. They have been a great rival for the University of Nebraska, and I, for one, hate seeing it end. But the overbearing dictatorship and threats from one school became too much to bear. The Kansas chancellor called giving Texas more money a "business plan". Like giving money to the mafia is "insurance" that nothing bad will happen to your house. I'm sorry that Kansas isn't coming with us. I wish they were. I hope you guys find a good way out of that mess soon.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 18, 2010 6:19PM CST Who was our rival K-State, Kansas, Mizzou? Please our rival was Oklahoma and they ducked us first chance they could.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 18, 2010 6:21PM CST Understand this Kansas Riccardo. After this year you will have more fans of the Kansas Jayhawk program then before because NU fans will root for Turner to be successful. Be pissed, I get it, just don't be spiteful. Spite will be met with spite. I love the word spite.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 6:22PM CST Kansas, as I said on another thread, I do not need to justify to you the move we made. It is done and you can deal with it or not. I don't care what you think of it.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 18, 2010 6:24PM CST Oh and our closest rival since the Big 12 was formed was CU and that was just because those folks were frothing at the mouth nuts. It's a good thing Hawkins would rather be a loser and a Puffaloe then a winner and a Husker. Mission accomplished Hawk.

Posted by: Viking Husker on June 18, 2010 6:30PM CST It's fun to hear people with no loyalty to the Big 8 before the split complain about loyalty after the split.

Posted by: Egregious Error on June 18, 2010 6:33PM CST Kansas Ric - I can't believe your still on here whining. Everyone in the entire state of Kansas has more class than you. Again, if there had been a "Good" option for Nebraska in the Big 12 we would have stayed. Since there wasn't, and we were not about to become a "Tick Picker", we left. Get over it.

Posted by: N_trepid on June 18, 2010 6:42PM CST Can't tell ya how many times I've hit the brakes channel-surfing, after mistaking Wisconsin for DONU. On more than one occasion I actually stopped and cheered for 'em.

Posted by: N_trepid on June 18, 2010 6:45PM CST This sudden outpouring of support from our former Big Eight brethren is really touching. 14 years too late, but touching. (*sniffle*)

Posted by: Egregious Error on June 18, 2010 6:47PM CST I wouldn't call snide remarks being supportive. But what ever floats your boat.

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 18, 2010 6:50PM CST I don't believe NU acknowledges anyone as their rival. When you think of rivalries Florida/Fl St, SC/Clemson, OU/TEXASS and tOSU/Michigan games come to mind. OU is as close as it ever came to a real rivalry but we all agree that is over. Maybe 10 years from now someone in the Big 10 will emerge as a rivalry.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 6:58PM CST Kansas: You know Dr. Tom tried to help out the big North every time but there was always that little 11-1 vote in the way. I will miss the rivalries with you but it was time to move on. I am hoping than when someone comes a calling you will go to greener pastures. Big North move out as soon as you can. Get out from under the yoke of Texas before it is too late GBR

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:06PM CST A Wisconsin rivalry would really trip my trigger.Both schools deep in tradition. This could become a classic game for DONU. GO BIG RED. GO BIG WISCONSON.

Posted by: Roter Blitz on June 18, 2010 7:13PM CST I kind of like the tailgate thing. How about we play Wisconsin for an actual tailgate off of a red 74 Ford pickup (in honor of the year we last played them) with an NU sticker on one side and a Wisconsin sticker on the other. You can still call it the Cheeseburger bowl though. :)

Posted by: NUwindow on June 18, 2010 7:19PM CST Sea Of Red Rivalry

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 7:20PM CST big red 1.....I agree. Wisconson would be a great annual rival.....I like the Husker connection there. IMO, we as Husker Nation need to put our best foot forward as we join the Big 10. We boast that we're the best fans in America......the next few years gives us a great opportunity to prove to the Big 10 that it just isn't fanspeak.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:25PM CST Fleaflicker > I agree NU has always had the best fans around. Were else but an NU game can you meet total strangers and be treated just like long lost family? Not many schools but it sounds like many of our big 10 brethren go along these same lines.

Posted by: Bucky Badger on June 18, 2010 7:26PM CST The Nittany lions? Please a little class.

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 7:26PM CST I'm pretty much done with the hate Texas thing.....I've had my share opines. But the future looks great for the University and I'm already getting excited to see the 2011 schedule.......right after we kick the s*** out of Texass......sorry, maybe I'm still not quite over the hate thing.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:27PM CST Hody Bucky. How is it going tonight?

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 7:29PM CST Bucky......I hope we're not doing that after we play you!!

Posted by: Low Country Husker on June 18, 2010 7:31PM CST Down here in Key west one more day. Ran into Mike Leach last night in one of the bars and swam with a manatee today...... This season is going to be good...but I too am looking forward to playing several of the teams in the Big ten!

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:32PM CST That's funny right there Bucky.

Posted by: Bucky Badger on June 18, 2010 7:45PM CST There is a positive feeling in MadCity about having the Huskers as a Red Rival. A lot of people are talking it up in a positive way. We will see what the bosses come up with. Being it's Friday night and the bowling alley is closed for remodel, guess I will head off to State Street. Bucky-Up

Posted by: Albino on June 18, 2010 7:54PM CST I don't mean to be greedy, but I would like to see us leave the Big 12 as undefeated conference champions. And if we could capture the MNC, that would just drive home the point! GBR

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:56PM CST Albino: Greed can be good. I think I rear them howling now after we take big 12 title. Who would of thought it? GBR

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 7:57PM CST hear not rear wow what a slip up.

Posted by: WillRogersnevermetanyWhorns on June 18, 2010 8:10PM CST True rivalries can't be manufactured by schedulers or coaches printing schedules in red ink. Nor can they be made to exist because of geography. Our Big 8 rival was a school in the only state in the conference NOT bordering Nebraska, so forget about Iowa as an automatic rival. Our Big 10 rivalry, assuming we develop one, will be with a school we play frequently for all the marbles. Thats how Oklahoma became our rival, thats how tOSU and Michigan became rivals.

Posted by: Albino on June 18, 2010 8:31PM CST 1982. Missed out of bounds call. Subsequent Penn State touchdown hangs a defeat on an otherwise undefeated Husker team. That's the stuff of rivalry! GBR

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 8:46PM CST Now that we appear to be back this conference, (that we used to laugh at if you recall), appears to offer many opportunities for competitive games year in and year out. However I hope that are not to mad us when we win it all in 2011. :)

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 9:00PM CST Nebraska has much more a history than WI...this is Bret Bielema attempt to make a rivalry so as to attempt to put the Badgers on the same plane as NU...I SAY FORGET IT... ---- There are only 3 school NU should associate its name to when it comes to rivalries in the B10 - MICHIGAN, PENN ST, OHIO ST. --- The most logical choice is Penn St. We have a history with them. Mich and OSU are already tied up... --- IOWA, WISC, MICH ST, MN, will all be fun and sometime hard fought games, and yes we can play for right to house old bowling trophies, fishing tackle, milk jugs for year at a time. But frankly those teams are hangers-on... we don't need another Colorado.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 9:07PM CST Matti, We have just been invited. Me thinks we had better prove it before we talk to much trash. But that is just me.

Posted by: JTHF on June 18, 2010 9:11PM CST I agree with PT Husker. We haven't proven anything yet. The Husker are used to playing against the same teams and are familiar with them. The Big 10 will be a whole new experience. We left a conference with one team that thinks they are better than everyone else. Let's not be the new one in Big 10 to act that way !!

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 9:21PM CST Roter Blitz Playing for an actual tailgate... Now that is rich!! :). I love it. Larry the Cable guy would certainly endorse this idea. I can see NU running of the field with the tailgate now. FANTASTICALLY CREATIVE IDEA!!!!

Posted by: Albino on June 18, 2010 9:28PM CST FYI: how Tex tactics look from a distance: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/budwithers/2012126405_withers16.html

Posted by: RedDog77 on June 18, 2010 9:37PM CST Albino played 18 at Albion lasy week. Nice little 9 holer.

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 9:39PM CST PT HuskerNo disrespect intended...with comment- just calling a spade a spade... I'm not sure how old/young you guys are...but NU's storied program is not on the same level as IOWA,WISC,MICH ST,MN...Rilveries aren't asked for by opposing teams guys...they happen over long periods of time and are made up of many games that are program defining...No offense, but playing for the Axe of Giant that roamed the north country with a blue ox name "babe" doesn't match up to the "Game of the Century" (1 or 2). Until any of those team mentioned above, have the status of Top Programs in the NCAA (NU #5 ---those mentioned above not in the top 25) We shouldn't accept offers from Wisconsin like they are our equal--Beilema knows thishttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 18, 2010 9:47PM CST Good God, We are already running smack? The Huskers have only had one decent year in almost 10 years. We still never beat TT. Iowa has given us plenty of fits. Michigan State won’t be walk in the park. It is nice that a quality program like Wisconsin is considering having a rival game with the Huskers. Almost as nice as them brining over an apple pie. We are lucky the Big 10 has welcomed us into their league. I think it would be great to have a rival game with the Badgers. How many other Big 12 schools have shown this type of hospitality? You don’t have to hate you opponent to play hard.

Posted by: PT Husker on June 18, 2010 9:56PM CST No Problem Matti. And I understand where you are coming from in terms of Reputation. And I do feel that with in a few years we will become a premier program in the New Big 12. I would just rather wait until we do that before we start looking over the top of our glasses. Bed time. Big day of painting the deck tomorrow.

Posted by: big red 1 on June 18, 2010 9:56PM CST Nish : In accordance of fair play yes we should not be trash talking. I consider it an honor that Wisconsin wants to be our rival. Matti no disrespect but we are to be new in the conference and I do not think we should be bad mouthing anyone in Big 10. They could of left us for dead but they did not.

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 10:02PM CST NishThere is no smack here.Do understand what a RIVAL is?It means-- having the same pretensions or claims (ref.Websters).Do you think Wisconsin has the same pretensions or claims that NU has as a program historically or on a national scale?Beilema, by asking us into a "rival" game, he is making his claim on us. This is what CU did 15 years ago...classic hangers-on, no matter if you bring pie or not...

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 18, 2010 10:11PM CST Matt, You make a good point. Especially regarding the Buffs. Actually back in the day I had to give props to Coach McCarthy trying to inspire(bring CU) his program to the level of the Huskers. If the Buffs fans had some class it could have been a decent rival. I always heard as a kid how fierce the Sooners vs Husker rival. In the last few years I have made several friends via the internet with Sooner fans. The main reason was the get it. Sooners fans understand and respect Big Red as well as Huskers fans. It's a maturity level. The same goes for the Badgers they haven't had as much success as NU, but they have always been competitive. Again you made some great points.

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 10:12PM CST Big Red 1- Not bad mouthing anyone here...Just a point of clarification...we chose to enter the B10, they accepted us. The didn't save us from anything, we helped them.I'm confident that had we not chosen to leave the B12, the conference would still be intact with us in it. Missouri was never an option for the Big10 as everyone assumed.I believe that CU would have left, and UTAH or TCU would have joined the Big12 to keep it at 12 teams...

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 18, 2010 10:16PM CST Matti, At this point Wisconsin has proven its ability to play in the big ten. The corn, not so much. This is not the nineties. The corn is making a move into uncharted territory. Being respectful when one is invited into ones home is always a good thing. And as a newcomer you may only be offered the cot even though you may feel you deserve the master bedroom. Certainly the big ten is where the corn belongs. Certainly the corn and its fans will earn the respect going forward. For now talk quietly and carry a big stick. It appears that is what TO does and it works.

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 10:20PM CST matti7.....everything that you mentioned happened quite awhile back........back in the future reality is it has been forever since we've beaten a top ten team on the road....so get over it.

Posted by: NishBigRed on June 18, 2010 10:27PM CST On another note, Husker fans are known nation wide for their knowledge (N) of the game and sense of fair play. We have always had a reputation for treating fans and players of the opponents with respect. Several years ago, I attended the USC game in CA. I actually tailgated on the USC campus with a Husker alumnus whose two sons who had attended USC. He stated he had given enough to USC to earn the right to set up his Big Red canopy on their campus. Anyway, we must have had about 40 USC boosters tailgating with us. Several of their fans commented on how Huskers fans were some of the best. I sat next to a 20-year season ticket holder and had a great time. She informed me all about Traveler (the big white horse) mascot. Plus they have a tradition on game day whenever they pass a pole they kick it. I don’t remember why. Good times.

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 10:38PM CST matti7.........I too am proud of our history and traditions. IMO, we just need to be a little humble as we go forward to bigger and better things.

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 10:40PM CST FleaflickerNot following you... we are talking about tradition rich programs with prestige.....http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468Nebraska, ND, Ohio State, USC, OU, Texas...Wisconsin isn't in the top 35... Wisconsin asking NU into a "rival" game is like, if Ohio State joined the B12 and Kansas State said "Jim Tressel, we want YOU to be OUR end of season/main rival". I doesn't make sense, it just doesn't work that way...Most media pundents are already considering NU #2 or #3 best team in the B10. By the way Flea, when did Wisconsin break the top 10? And who is Austin Peay (9/25) NOTE TO ALL---Just because we joined a new conference doesn't mean we are low man on the tutum pole. The B10 doesn't want us to act like it either. If they wanted that, they would have invited-Mizzou

Posted by: Roter Blitz on June 18, 2010 10:45PM CST Hey matti7, glad you liked my tailgate idea. I think it would be a hoot! Maybe someone will pass it along to Larry. ;)

Posted by: fleaflicker on June 18, 2010 10:48PM CST matti7.........you're right, the rivals will work themselves out as we play the games.....I'm ok with that. I don't think that anyone in the Big 10 is mistaking us for Missouri.

Posted by: Albino on June 18, 2010 10:53PM CST RedDog77, I enjoyed it many times during the day. Been a while though ...

Posted by: Albino on June 18, 2010 10:57PM CST Excuse me, I meant in "in the day" not "during the day" (although that too).

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 11:03PM CST No worries flea...I live in the heart of Big 10 country -Minneapolis...and the conference gets "0" media coverage (including the Gophers). We don't want to slip into a media wasteland by tying ourselves to mediocre B10 teams with little national exposure. The more we can associate ourselves to teams further east, the more national coverage we will get. And we will need it. Because I'm scared that we have moved into a region (north central) that not many people follow college sports. Fans follow the Twins, Vikings, Packers, Bears, Cubs, Brewers, (not to mention HOCKEY which is the midwest's equivalent of NCAA FB). NU Football has alot of competition media wise.

Posted by: matti7 on June 18, 2010 11:05PM CST Roter... Sure hope so 'Mater :)

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 18, 2010 11:08PM CST I have to say I agree with Matti7. Wisconsin is a very good school and has had a nice football program for about 15 years but I can't say we should accept them as our new "rival". As a NU fan I respect their program but I cannot honestly say that prestige wise it's a match. That being said I don't think we really have a choice in this matter right now. Prestige wise it would have to be tOSU, UM, or PSU and in two of those choices I see some short term issues with their viability as powerhouse schools. JoePa has to retire some day and NU fans and UM fans can tell you what one poor coaching hire can do. So really that leaves tOSU but I can't see that one happening. Whoever the Big10 chooses is sure to tick somebody off. Which ever way it goes I've got an open date for Thanksgiving weekend and I need a football game to fill it.

Posted by: Trashman on June 18, 2010 11:31PM CST I agree with Matti as well. That is why several threads ago I mentioned that you cannot just "create" a rivalry because you write a team's name in red on the schedule. I enjoyed what McCartney tried to create at CU, but I never felt like it had a "rivalry" association to it like OU did. Probably because it was generally a couple of the best teams in the country playing for possible national title hopes.... CU generally played us tough and won a few, but most would tell you that the deep emotions with the game were rarely at an all time high. It probably has a lot to do, as Matti speaks of, with national prominence and prestige. When one has significantly more than the other, the luster is lacking. But there's no reason to be on here picking our new rival....let the games in the next 5-10 years start to determine one.

Posted by: salmon_slayer63a on June 18, 2010 11:56PM CST I can say with an honest feeling that our "rival" must be grown within. that rival must be PSU. We have had a decent amount of games with them. We won a championship with them going undefeated. They kept us from winning in 82?? These are things that make rivalries. Rivals are not made on paper. Rivals are not decide by conference. Rivals are not made because of the trophy. Rivals are made because of on field controversy. Rivals are made because 1 team keeps the other from something special a time or 2. Our true rival was Okla because they stood in the way of us winnning many league titles or national championships. No team but PSU could ever clai this kind of stuff. Maybe UM could but only in 97 did they keep us from winning it all, and still we got part of it anyways. PSU is our natural rival from the start, will it always be that way? Time will tell.

Posted by: Mountainman@ on June 19, 2010 1:25AM CST Iowa is the natural main rival of the Huskers. They started playing in 1891, even before Kansas came into the picture. Except for the 1920's Nebraska and Iowa played nearly every season through 1947. One of the few seasons the missed was 1939, when Iowa's Nile Kinnick won the Heisman. He might not have won it had the Husker been on the schedule. Nebraska stomped Iowa in 1937, 1938 and 1940. Not only are they close geographically, they have a long history going back to the earliest days of college football. If I am recalling correctly, Nebraska had played Iowa more times than any other opponent in history. Both have good coaches and have a tradition of winning teams during the past 20 years. It would the best natural rivalry and enable students and fans of the visiting team to have a better chance of attending the game. If the conference splits on an east west basis, then the winner of the Iowa-Nebraska would be the most likely winner of the division. Going back in history, Iowa has closed their season 18 times with a game against Nebraska. A last game of the regular season was the thing that make the Nebraska-Oklahoma series such a great rivalry. The winner usually took it all in the conference and sometimes in the nation.

Posted by: Albino on June 19, 2010 1:28AM CST I like Rittenberg's proposal for Big Ten divisions: http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/13285/my-proposal-for-big-ten-divisions The inclusion of Indiana and Purdue in a mostly Western division helps balance travel costs between Penn State and Nebraska. Go Big Rivals!

Posted by: Mountainman@ on June 19, 2010 1:29AM CST I meant that Nebraska has played Iowa more times than any other OOC team.

Posted by: Albino on June 19, 2010 1:33AM CST If Nebraska & Oklahoma hadn't been competitive, the late season schedule wouldn't have mattered. You have to break each other's hearts a few times before it becomes real. GBR

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 19, 2010 6:35AM CST matti ranked #5 in 2006. But now that it is known you live in gopher- ville, it is easier to understand the issues at hand. Not so sure Minneapolis is the "heart of big ten country?" Perhaps the norwest extremity. Regardless, pound texas this fine year and roll into the big ten with a refined confidence. Trash, broke 90 again and except for 2 triples certainly caused by, missing brain cells it would have been an 80. Okay off to a swim meet and then a softball tourney in the afternoon. Summer is here.

Posted by: Nuke1970 on June 19, 2010 6:44AM CST We may get a big surprise from the competition across the board in the Big Ten. Lots of talent there and good football. Illinois stunk last year, but their talent level is in the upper level (they gutted their entire coaching staff except the head coach to try to change direction). Northwestern typically has the least talent, but they will usually bring a lot more to the field than KU / KState or MU. We will not have the talent poor patsies that we've had in the Big xii North. But a conference should be built on strength of the entire conference not just a place for someone like Texass to dominate all their little disciples. GBR beat the good teams!

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 19, 2010 6:59AM CST Trash, I will have to educate you on the few Colorado wins over the corn. Perhaps you will be surprised.

Posted by: Trashman on June 19, 2010 7:28AM CST DBP I know some of the wins for CU. I know the many more for NU. Like 47-18-2 all time. The rivaly was maybe felt more from the herbal side. Bringing up "Triples" must of been in your mind from your unposted last round?

Posted by: matti7 on June 19, 2010 7:49AM CST Nuke You underestimate the B12 talent... The Big10 Mid and Lower Tier is not that different than than any other conference in the land...Some on here have posted that IOWA is as tradition rich as NU and is one of the top programs in the B10. Likewise most people that follow the B12 would say Iowa State is the in cellar. But when you compare the all time overall record between the rivaled schools (58-51 Iowa) it's about even. In rival games emotions are high and both teams play at peak levels. That tells me that the talent pool is not that different... This is the difference between a winning tradition and program at Nebraska were they play at there peak level all the time, and that of B10 schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue and MN.

Posted by: The Truth on June 19, 2010 8:25AM CST Wisconsin is just looking to add a guaranteed win @ the end of the year. That helps keep a Coach's job.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 19, 2010 9:44AM CST 2nd - That's it, really come on dig deep and come up with something better.

Posted by: rattenkriegplatte on June 19, 2010 9:45AM CST Nuke - Didn't Texas and tOSU split their matchup? Illinois come on! They play in a high school stadium with a high school head coach.

Posted by: crindal on June 19, 2010 10:19AM CST i still remember the Refs horrible calls in the 82 penn st game. i've hated penn st ever since. bring on penn st!!

Posted by: Husker_Heat on June 19, 2010 12:27PM CST Crindle, I hear ya. I'll never forget that call. It cost us the Nat'l Champ. that year. Here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XiH8mxa-Z0

Posted by: Husker_Heat on June 19, 2010 12:29PM CST It was 4th down w/ 20 seconds left. The guy lands 2 yards out o bounds! They said after that the Penn ST. field was actually in the shape of #1 .... with a little 2 yrd outcropping. Where was instant replay when you need it?

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 19, 2010 7:00PM CST trash anyone can look at totals. Like I said, the corn losses to CU were costly. You should go look it up. Anyway the big ten will decide who gets what as a season ending game. I still think NU vs NU would be the best. Has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Trashman on June 19, 2010 7:39PM CST DBP Everyone looks at totals. Just like School Education Rankings totals. The last 20 games, NU is 14-5-1. Even better if I go back to 1986 when CU ended a 20 year losing streak to NU. However, NU played 4 more conference games after that. Still won over LSU in a nice Sugar Bowl victory. One that may be considered big is 2001's 62-36. However, NU still went to the NC Game. 2002 was a 7-5 team that went to 7-6 and then went to Shreveport instead of maybe Alamo? 2004 was the only "big one" I see. Ended the big bowl streak. 2007 ended a possible three year "bowl streak". I look at that game as a confirmed blessing to clean the coaching house. One Corn loss was costly. The others? Hmmmm. Maybe if you look through the "garden glasses".

Posted by: drivebyposter on June 19, 2010 8:35PM CST trash, go back through time, see the few CU wins. They appear to be critical. 1986 first loss 1989 first loss 1990 first loss 2001 first loss 2007 Kept from Bowl. Trash, CU is a mediocre football team. But at key times when the corn was rolling, the buffalo beat em. I am sorry to see this game end actually. But the corn in the big ten and the buffs in the pac ten is pretty dang neat. More softball tomorrow. Have a great daddy-day.

Posted by: BadgerFan on June 20, 2010 10:40PM CST Well, it isn't it obvious what the trophy in a game between Wisconsin and Nebraska would be? THE BIG RED TROPHY

Posted by: Far Right Conspiracy on June 22, 2010 6:17PM CST Play Wisconsin on Halloween weekend. That way we get to go to the largest Halloween party every other year in Madison. Maybe play for a Pumpkin or Jack-O-Lantern? Play Penn State for the last game of the year. There is already some bad blood between the two schools - along with a lot of respect. I don't think it would take too long before a NU - Penn St game would be a national event. As for what we play for with Penn St - something to pay respect to our Large German backgrounds in our respective states.